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State has no records of Berg's firm (Nick Berg)
The Daily Local ^ | 05/14/2004 | JONATHAN TULEYA

Posted on 05/14/2004 3:43:32 AM PDT by calcowgirl

Prometheus Methods Tower Services Inc., the business that cost Nick Berg his life in Iraq, has no records with the Pennsylvania Department of State.

The company that specialized in building communications towers never registered with the Pennsylvania Corporation Bureau, said Brian McDonald, spokesman for the state department.

McDonald conducted a search of the bureau’s online list of registered businesses, but found no matches.

The same search done by a Daily Local News reporter produced the same results -- several businesses contained the word "Prometheus" in their names. Only one is located in West Chester, and it is not related to Berg’s business.

Companies are not legally required to register with the state, but McDonald explained it is usually the first step an owner takes.

"You’d be very foolish not to register your business with the department," he said. "It is nearly impossible to exist without doing it."

Registering allows an owner to set up his business’s tax structure. It also establishes how the business is run, for example, whether or not it is for-profit or nonprofit.

"It is basically the infrastructure by which businesses are set up in the commonwealth," McDonald said.

McDonald added it is possible the business could be listed in the bureau’s records under a different name.

Searching the statewide yellow pages online found two company names containing the word "Prometheus" in Philadelphia. One is an Internet consulting business.

An employee at the second one, which is called Prometheus Radio Project, said it was not affiliated with the business owned by the local man slain in Iraq by members of al-Qaida.

Officials at the Pennsylvania Department of Revenue and the Internal Revenue Service said state and federal laws prohibited their agencies from providing any records they had of Prometheus Methods Tower Services -- even whether the company had ever filed a return.

"Any information that we get or is contained on a tax return I can’t release," said Steve Kniley, press secretary for the state revenue department. "It is considered confidential under tax law."

Tax records become public information only if a lien is filed against a business. According to Kniley, there are no liens against Berg’s company.

Bill Cressman, spokesman at the IRS’s Philadelphia office, said the only companies with public tax records are nonprofit corporations.

At least one person claims he can confirm Prometheus’ existence.

Jay Shur, who works at the radio station WCHE 1520 AM in West Chester, said on Wednesday he was in the process of hiring Berg to build a communications tower for the station when news of his death came out.

The station was awaiting approval of plans from both the borough and an environmental agency before construction could begin, according to Shur.

"There’s a lot of paperwork to go through, and the area we were looking at was a marsh- land so we had to get clearance," he said."When I do get the OK, I’ll have to look for another contractor."

Michael Berg briefly spoke about Prometheus during a press conference Thursday morning outside his home.

"My son was not over there to make money," Michael Berg said. "My son’s business, which was very profitable before he went to Iraq ..I will make good on anything the company owes anybody, but it’s pretty much going to be defunct."

It is unclear how many employees Prometheus had. Michael Berg spoke of a "foreman" during the press conference. However, Nick Berg traveled to Iraq alone.

Staff Writer Jill Nawrocki contributed to this article.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: berg; bergresearch; headlessspy; nicholasberg; nickberg; prometheus; prometheusmethods; prometheusproject; prometheusradio; turass
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To: ride the whirlwind
Prometheus: a Titan who is chained and tortured by Zeus for stealing fire from heaven and giving it to mankind.

I'm wearing my tinfoil now. Hmmm, fire from heaven. Giving it to mankind. Nukes? Maybe he gave and they killed to keep him quiet.

521 posted on 05/14/2004 10:25:58 PM PDT by PattonReincarnated (Rebuild the Temple)
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To: Trinity_Tx

I hope you didn't just zap that out, out of your head!! LOL. It reminds me again of why I have never liked Greek Mythology.

The things they were always doing remind me of the terrorists.

I appreciate your information though, from another Texan I believe!!


522 posted on 05/14/2004 10:26:52 PM PDT by potlatch ( Medals do not make a man. Morals do.)
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To: MiniCooperChick
"Berg's father said Thursday his son was someone who simply wanted to "help people, not to hurt anyone." "He was not disrespectful of danger, he just didn't recognize danger in people," Michael Berg said. "The al Qaeda that killed my son didn't know what they were doing. They killed their best friend. Nick was there to build Iraq, not to tear it down."

Thank you! I was scrounging thru my nightmare of factoid files and couldn't find it, lol. (yeeesh, too much)

Yes, I think that is the quote I remember too. I just still don't think it's the compelling evidence others seem to. : /

For one thing, are we sposed to think his father meant to "confess" his son (and himself) as a friend of al qaida?

Or was he distraught enough to slip?

If he slipped, wouldn't it make more sense to go by the entirety of his comment and think the slip was in overgeneralizing/mixing Iraq and al qaeda?

His friend said the same thing, but without reference to al qaeda. It came off to me more like I think his dad was referring to: Nick's being the best friend of the Iraqis he went there to help.

Taken otherwise, the statement contradicts itself, and all the other claims he made.

Finally, it's like what we said after the jihadists butchered and hung the men in Falluja... those men were there to help rebuild, and "they" (overgeneralizing/lumping) killed them.

It doesn't imply to me that the contractors were in cahoots with the jihadists. So, without something else (e.g.,info that might connect him to Prometheous radio), I just don't think that statement is enough to hang my hat on.
523 posted on 05/14/2004 10:27:49 PM PDT by Trinity_Tx (Most of our so-called reasoning consists in finding arguments for going on believin as we already do)
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To: P-Marlowe; Trinity_Tx; Grampa Dave; Poohbah; Barlowmaker; eyespysomething; jpl; FITZ; SAMWolf; ...
What evidence do you personally have, P-Marlowe, that Berg was killed in Iraq? That you have seen with your eyes? Answer: None. My point? We're all working off of open sources, and pointing out a bizzare string of coincidences.

Any of these oddball coincidences can be explained away. But in the aggragate? It's damned amazing.

There is an email connection to Mousawi. Gee, it could happen to anyone. But it happened to Nick Berg. Has an AQ terrorist ever used one of YOUR emeil accounts and passwords? Me neither.

Two Prometheus outfits out of PA, in the radio business. One for towers (for profit) one for broadcasting (non profit). Nick's dad (Prom. Methods) is an ANSWER wheel, so is Pete Tridish/Dylan Wrynn, the principal of Prom. Radio. Another coincidence.

Mike Berg's sister marries an Iraqi and moves to Mosul, during Saddam's regime. Another coincidence?

When Nick is picked up in Iraq, he's carrying antisemetic literature by some accounts, and a book in Farsi about Iran. Nick speaks and reads no Farsi. What's the book for?

After being released, Nick goes to Mosul to meet his former uncle in law, to help him set up an email account. Gee, nobody in Mosul understands email? Hmmmm? Was this rather specialized email instruction? He had to travel to Mosul to do this?

Why do you need to meet someone face to face in this day and age to set up an email account? A plausible explanation is that it is to teach new clandestine comm. techniques. You can't send an email explaining a new code or method, it can be intercepted. You must do this in person.

Why else to make face to face contact? Courier duty? Delivering what? I don't know. I do know that post 9-11, AQ is reluctant to use electronic comms, for fear of interception and location. Instead, they are relying on human couriers, carrying messages, CDs etc.

In Oklahoma, it's an "email coincidence" which later ties Nick to AQ. Then he's traveling all the way to Mosul to help his ex-uncle with email. Nick's a bright young engineer, who presumably is up on the latest uses of WiFi, IM, cell phone and computer tricks. I think this is where he would have great value, not installing spy gear up towers or other schemes.

It's just too damn many coincidences for me to accept at face value that his story was not a cover story. Obviously, a cover story has to be tight, and have some backstopping. But there are still way too many sore thumbs sticking out.

Sorry, but there it is.

524 posted on 05/14/2004 10:30:31 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee

Walk your #524 post over to your neighbor, Trav.


525 posted on 05/14/2004 10:38:53 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( If everything appears to be going well, you obviously don't know what the hell is going on.)
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To: Trinity_Tx
If he slipped, wouldn't it make more sense to go by the entirety of his comment and think the slip was in overgeneralizing/mixing Iraq and al qaeda? His friend said the same thing, but without reference to al qaeda. It came off to me more like I think his dad was referring to: Nick's being the best friend of the Iraqis he went there to help.

If he "slipped" and meant Iraqis, not Al Qaeda, why did he later state "The al-Qaeda people are probably just as bad as they are, but this administration did this."

526 posted on 05/14/2004 10:41:24 PM PDT by Rokurota
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To: P-Marlowe

If you were in the broadcasing business, would you go public and say your true thoughts about Nick Berg if you didn't like the man?

Good idea if you were looking to go bankrupt. Think advertising and public image of your firm!


527 posted on 05/14/2004 10:43:22 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( If everything appears to be going well, you obviously don't know what the hell is going on.)
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To: Rokurota
I also heard his father say that Nick quit the Boy Scouts because they were going to the Air Force to shoot guns.

Now what kid would quit because of that? That's a selfserving bit of parenting, IMO.

528 posted on 05/14/2004 10:44:29 PM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: B4Ranch
If you were in the broadcasing business, would you go public and say your true thoughts about Nick Berg if you didn't like the man?

The comments I posted earlier were from a private members only blog. They were not meant for public consumption. They were meant for broadcasters only. Plus, tower people don't need good public images. All they need is for people in the trade to know they are hard working and reliable and fast. A radio station would hire Satan himself if it meant they could get their radio station back on the air before daybreak.

529 posted on 05/14/2004 10:53:27 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Free the GRPL3)
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To: Travis McGee
Sorry, but there it is.

Then what conclusion can you draw from your "evidence"?

Is there any "evidence" that Nick was a shill for the left? Is there any evidence that he was a CIA agent? No. Just a lot of coincidences that could point in either direction. So what direction are you taking it?

The evidence to me points to the FACT that Nick Berg had a legitimate business. That his business has nothing to do with ANSWER or the Prometheus Radio Project. And that He was slaughtered by people identified by the FBI as Al Queida top lieutenants.

Is the FBI covering this up? Where is that evidence?

Did Ashcroft lie to us today? What motive would Ashcroft have to lie about who Nick Berg was and why he was killed? Is he protecting Bush? If so, from what?

530 posted on 05/14/2004 11:03:30 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Free the GRPL3)
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To: RGSpincich

Nick Berg certainly didn't look like the kind of guy who would quit the boy scouts because they were going to shoot guns. His father looks like a panty waste sissy, but Nick Berg looked like a leatherneck drill sergeant.


531 posted on 05/14/2004 11:06:00 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Free the GRPL3)
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To: MiniCooperChick
What do you think of the quote from cnn.com in 505?

I think his father was probably equating the Iraqi people with the people who killed his son. He probably thinks that all Iraqis want the Americans to leave. Thus he sees no difference between the Iraqi people that Nick Berg went to help and the Al Queida monsters that slaughtered him.

Frankly I don't care what his father says. His father is an idiot. A lot of people have relatives that are stupid.

If we are judged by the relatives we keep, then we are all in a lot of trouble. Aren't we? Apparently that is what people on this thread seem intent on doing.

532 posted on 05/14/2004 11:13:50 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Free the GRPL3)
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To: cajungirl; backhoe
Cajungirl posted, "We have too many threads on Berg and we all are missing info in putting this together. Can someone start a definitive thread on him with pool of info,,I don't know how. Maybe the ultimate Berg thread or something so we can all go to one place with information. This is a true mystery and we are so good at it, we need a clearing house."

Cajun Girl, your wish has been taken care of. Click the political cartoon below, Be sure to ping Backhoe on threads and specific replies which have documentation:

533 posted on 05/14/2004 11:14:42 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (What left wing lies of the media, the DNC and foreign enemies will we expose today?)
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To: calcowgirl

I found this somewhere else, hope it hasn't been posted here before....

Here's where you really need the tin foil hat. Look at this pic that was released today of the latest prisoner abuse at Abu Ghraib prison. Notice the white chair in the lower left corner. Now - look at the chair Nicholas Berg is sitting in!! It's the same f*cking chair!

I have some more pics but the walls are the same yellow color and the baseboard is the same color as Abu Ghraib prison. Then - as I've said before - what is Nicholas Berg doing in an orange prison jumpsuit? The orange jumpsuit is the same color as the ones used at the prison!!! Terrorists don't don't put the people they kidnap in orange prison jumpsuits!

Now - put that together with the fact that these "terrorists" are WHITE and FAT and they are wearing BULLET PROOF VESTS!! So who goes around wearing bullet proof vests all the time? People like CIA - Prison guards!

This is enough to scare the **** out of you but - Nicholas Berg was murdered by AMERICANS at Abu Ghraib prison. They staged it so as to make it look like terrorists murdered Berg.

If you have a different opinion then you tell me why they have the same plastic furnature - the same walls - the same floorboard color - and the same orange jumpsuit. You tell me why these terrorists are fat white guys wearing bullet proof vests. You tell me why they speak bad arabic. You tell me why they yell like Americans when they kill Berg. I suppose the terrorist picked up those chairs at the local WalMart!

There is a dispute as to if Berg was in US custody. He was arrested by Iraqi police but they claim they turned him over to American custody. America however denies that they had him.

CNN said initially that they were sure the voice was NOT al-Zarqawi. The CIA however confirms that it is. Isn't that amazing! I listen to the voices and it doesn't sound like the voices of someone who speaks Arabic as their first language.

But you see - it's not about the voices that make you think it's not al-Zarqawi. In May 2002 Zarqawi traveled to Iraq. He had his leg amputated and had a prosthetic limb to replace it. So - for a guy with ONE LEG al-Zarqawi is VERY NIMBLE on his feet! So - make you wonder how well the CIA thought things through when they decided to play terrorist?

This is what a REAL terrorist looks like. This is the picture of Richard Pearl who was also killed by terrorists. Notice the thin brown hands - the grabbing of the hair - and the gun to the head. The guy is mean - angry. Pearl has on ordinary clothes and his hands are chained. When you look at the picture you can feel the wildness of a true terrorist. You can tell Pearl looks like he knows he is in big trouble. The clothes on the terrorists look normal for the reagon - but on the photos of the Berg terrorists - they look like they are in a costume.

Now look at the Berg terrorists. These guys look like the 5 stooges! They are FAT and WHITE. Check out the guy on the right. Do I see WHITE SHOES? Wonder how he keeps them clean running around the Iraqi deasert?

When he reads the statement - does he sound angry? I don't hear it. He's reading a script.

As to can see on terrist 2, 4, and 5 - the BULLET PROOF VESTS. American MPs wear them all the time. To them it's like putting on their underwear. They wear them so that if a prisoner tries to make a knife and stab them in the heart - they are protected. I guess they never thought they would show up under the terrorist costume.

Berg has no idea what it about to happen. He looks comfortable - perhaps too comfortable. I think they probably told him that they wanted him to pretend to be a hostage in order to get out of prison. Berg knew he was back at Abu Ghraib prison and that his "captors" were Americans - and that he was playing a role. Notice the orange jumpsuit in the following picture.

The beheading changed the mood of the nation. Several lawmakers commented that after the beheading thit it reminded them what the real issues were. So the beheading had the intended effect - that is - to inflame Americans and get them to think that torture is something that can be acceptable.

What we are seeing here people scares me beyond belief. I sit here stunned. I want to call someone but don't know who to call. If this turns out to be true - the world will experience a moment of horror unlike anything the world has ever experienced - except maybe the nuking of Japan.

Arab linguists have said the man posing as the Jordanian Zaraqawi did not speak with a Jordanian dialect. Others have suggested the man reading the written statement may not have been a native speaker of Arabic.

Zaraqawi was missing one leg and had been outfitted with an artificial leg that did not fit or function properly. He was unable to walk or stand normally with his ill-fitting limb. No man in the group showed evidence of such an infirmity.

Numerous indigenous sources have said Zaraqawi was killed by a US helicopter attack months ago when he was unable to move quickly enough to escape the targeted house. While others managed to exit the house in time to survive, he died in the collapsed building.

As any surgeon will testify, the alleged beheading was a fake. A beheading would result in a tremendous amount of spurting blood. There would have been blood everywhere had an actual beheading taken place. When the executioner holds up Berg's head immediately following what is represented as an actual decapitation of a living person, there is no significant blood flow from the neck or blood splatters showing anywhere on the executioner. Furthermore, the cut was simply too neat to have been done crudely and with such amazing speed by a man wielding a knife. Anybody who has ever carved a turkey knows there is something wrong with the supposed beheading. The suspended head looks more like Berg had been neatly beheaded by a guillotine.

The orange jumpsuit was standard US military issue to men in custody. It is unlikely Berg would have continuing wearing a US custodial uniform if he had been released by the military as they claim. The fact he was still wearing the suit is both anomalous and suggestive. One is forced to speculate as to whether there was an immediate transfer of Berg from the US military to unknown persons, thusly preventing Berg from discarding his US prison garb.

Several of the men in the film were fat by Iraqi standards. If they were Feyadeen or mujahadeen, they probably have been living underground since the first days of the occupation. Tens of thousands of Iraqis have been shown on news stories as they have marched and demonstrated. One would be hard pressed to point out a single fat man among these thousands.

Some men had what can only be described as pasty-white hands. Once again, one would be hard pressed to find Arab men with pasty-white hands.

The lack of spurting blood suggests Berg was already dead at the time of the alleged decapitation. It is possible Berg's dead body was displayed with his head already partially or totally severed. In any case, he almost certainly was killed before the staged beheading. If so, it suggests the captors had no stomach for an actual beheading of a living person, and they opted to fulfill their assignment quietly and with the least amount of gore.

The scream that is heard has been interpreted as a woman's scream by many viewers. Videotape cognoscenti have further said the scream was amateurishly added to the tape.

The U.S. government translation of one statement made on the film is: "Does al Qaeda need any further excuses?" This is a falsification. The actual statement urged fellow insurgents to get off their hind ends and do something. One assumes the translator being used by the US military is a native speaker of Arabic, so this cannot be explained as an innocent flub. This suggests the US government wanted to inject an alleged al- Qaeda group into the murder of Nick Berg.

Iraqis who have seen the videotape on Arabic news broadcasts are universally saying the men in the film are not Iraqis. Are they saying this partly because the speaker does not employ an Iraqi dialect? Where does their certainty come from?

Firearms experts have stated the AK-47 carried by one man was a "Gilal." This actually is an Israeli-made weapon that improves on the famous AK- 47. Feyadeen and other insurgents almost universally use AK-47s.

The man in the videotape who is purported to be Zarqawi is wearing a gold ring. This is absolutely proscribed by Islamic law.

The US military has stated that Berg was never in US custody and that he had been in custody of the Iraqi police. The Iraqi police adamantly deny he was ever in their custody. On April 1, an e-mail from Beth A. Payne, the U.S. consular officer in Iraq, was sent to the family of Nick Berg. It stated that Ms. Payne had located Nick, and he was currently in custody of the US military. We have to conclude that either the email was bogus or the US military has been lying.

The chair that Berg was seated in during the filming was a standard issue military chair of the exact same kind as seen in a color photo taken at the Abu Ghraib Prison. The chances a terrorist cell would be using this same chair are minimal at best.


534 posted on 05/14/2004 11:33:48 PM PDT by Robert Lomax
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To: P-Marlowe
I think his father was probably equating the Iraqi people with the people who killed his son. He probably thinks that all Iraqis want the Americans to leave. Thus he sees no difference between the Iraqi people that Nick Berg went to help and the Al Queida monsters that slaughtered him.

"I think... He probably thinks... thus...

Epistemology is what makes the logical thus valid. I don't want the kid to be guilty of anything. The stupidity and aggressive bullcrap of his old man has led to the questioning. Why would we buy anything he has to say on any subject. Busses, Uganda, Kenya, Iraq, passwords, Sandy uncles, Aunt's with at least a case of bad taste, public pushing in lawn of ANSWER signs, this is all too William Burroughs to be totally ignored. Your brain recoils. Mine does too.

535 posted on 05/14/2004 11:37:09 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: Robert Lomax

OMG. Where did this come from?


536 posted on 05/14/2004 11:41:52 PM PDT by ladyinred (Torture is what happened to Nick Berg!)
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To: Robert Lomax
The orange jumpsuit is the same color as the ones used at the prison!!!

The pics I've seen suggest the prisoners aren't wearing anything!!

Now - put that together with the fact that these "terrorists" are WHITE and FAT and they are wearing BULLET PROOF VESTS!!

You could tell they were white even thought they covered their heads?

If you have a different opinion then you tell me why they have the same plastic furnature - the same walls - the same floorboard color - and the same orange jumpsuit.

They shop the same stores?

537 posted on 05/14/2004 11:43:27 PM PDT by Rokurota
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To: ladyinred; Robert Lomax
Lady, that probably came from some tin foil lefty site.

Notice no link, just spamming of an article.

538 posted on 05/14/2004 11:48:59 PM PDT by Dane
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To: calcowgirl

If the company is incorporated (Inc.) in the State of Florida you must register, and every year you must fill out an "Annual Report/Uniform Business Report," and pay a fee in order for a corporation's status is active!

Would think similar in in force in Berg's State?


539 posted on 05/15/2004 12:01:02 AM PDT by danamco
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To: ladyinred; Robert Lomax
Huh? Wearing a gold ring is forbidden in Islam?


540 posted on 05/15/2004 12:01:02 AM PDT by Dane
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