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Some federal workers have fake degrees
MSNBC ^
| May 11, 2004
| The Associated Press
Posted on 05/11/2004 11:06:18 AM PDT by Mo1
GAO says dozens of employees have bogus diplomas
WASHINGTON - At least 28 senior-level federal employees in eight agencies have bogus college degrees, including three managers at the office that oversees nuclear weapons safety, congressional investigators have found.
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TOPICS: Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: govemployees
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posted on
05/11/2004 11:06:20 AM PDT
by
Mo1
To: prairiebreeze; onyx; Texasforever; CyberAnt; BigSkyFreeper; Tamsey; mrs tiggywinkle; redlipstick; ..
Any comments??
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posted on
05/11/2004 11:07:28 AM PDT
by
Mo1
(Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
To: Mo1
How could GAO tell?
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posted on
05/11/2004 11:07:35 AM PDT
by
RexBeach
(Before God makes you greedy, he makes you stupid.)
To: Mo1
Wasn't this true of one of Clinton's appointees?
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posted on
05/11/2004 11:08:13 AM PDT
by
AppyPappy
(If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
To: Mo1
I'm not sure I've ever understood why anyone would pay money for these degrees. Why not just make up your own school name and print a diploma off the computer?
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posted on
05/11/2004 11:09:08 AM PDT
by
Sloth
(We cannot defeat foreign enemies of the Constitution if we yield to the domestic ones.)
To: RexBeach
a) By demanding to see transcripts from the university offering the degree.
b) By calling the registrar to verify the authenticity.
c) If doubts still remain, send the GAO to visit the addresses listed on the transcript and see if they correspond to legitimate universities or not.
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posted on
05/11/2004 11:09:17 AM PDT
by
.cnI redruM
(Training doesn't give you common sense or respect for human dignity.)
To: Mo1
No surprise here. There are ways to avoid it, but that would require good management systems and practices.
To: Mo1
Any comments?? Even if they do, so what?
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posted on
05/11/2004 11:10:24 AM PDT
by
RightWhale
(Destroy the dark; restore the light)
To: Mo1
one way to shrink the government!
To: Mo1
And one United States senator has a bogus Purple Heart!
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posted on
05/11/2004 11:13:16 AM PDT
by
kellynla
(U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
To: RightWhale
Even if they do, so what? Reparations for false goods. If I hire you, based upon a qualification that is found to be false; I have been a victim of fraud. This should be subject to a lawsuit, with backpay to the point of hiring, plus interest. Given the level of salary, and time that an unqualified person was paid; this should easily be a Felony.
Will this actually happen? Heck, no.... but it should.
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posted on
05/11/2004 11:14:20 AM PDT
by
Hodar
(With Rights, comes Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
To: .cnI redruM
When even I applied for a job .. they would check out my referrence and history
I guess I am expected to much from our government huh?
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posted on
05/11/2004 11:14:26 AM PDT
by
Mo1
(Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
To: Mo1
Verifying a degree should be part of a pretty basic background check, but heck, why do background checks on those involved with nuclear safety.
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posted on
05/11/2004 11:15:14 AM PDT
by
Dolphy
(I joined the redlipstick boycott of MSNBC)
To: Mo1
why weren't the school accredations checked before reimbursing tuition?
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posted on
05/11/2004 11:16:43 AM PDT
by
kallisti
(the fastest way to end a war is to lose it.)
To: Mo1
As me ole buddy, the famous Gomer Pile Sez:
SURPRIZE
SURPRIZE
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posted on
05/11/2004 11:20:13 AM PDT
by
DeaconRed
(sKerry did a flip flop, stepped on a pop top, got a purple heart, then threw it away. Or did he?)
To: Mo1
Consequence of judging people by how much formal education they've attended instead of how smart they are and how well they do their jobs.
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posted on
05/11/2004 11:24:52 AM PDT
by
Doohickey
("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.”)
To: Hodar
Will this actually happen? It will happen, but on a case by case basis. It goes deeper, though. A gov't position is a position of public trust. If a person is willing to stretch ethics a little, will he then be willing to stretch a little more and a little more. With the country in a moral crisis, and the backlash starting at the Superbowl halftime show, it appears we are going to shape up for the time being.
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posted on
05/11/2004 11:24:55 AM PDT
by
RightWhale
(Destroy the dark; restore the light)
To: Mo1
Yes, one responder already mentioned the registrar. It's not hard or complicated to call a school's registrar and will almost certainly confirm or deny a degree. The school is just as interested in distancing itself from frauds as you are in ferreting them out.
To: Mo1
Just more of the Clinton legacy!
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posted on
05/11/2004 11:34:16 AM PDT
by
CyberAnt
(The 2004 Election is for the SOUL of AMERICA)
To: Sloth
Wasn't this true of one of Clinton's appointees? Laura Crabtree Callahan, high ranking Dept. of Homeland Security IT manager, was caught with three "degrees" from "Hamilton University", reputedly an unaccreditted diploma mill. Crabtree came to be famous for her role in intimidating contract employees who discovered the "missing" WhiteHouse e-mails (sometimes known as "e-mail-gate") during the Clinton administration, which had NOT been turned over in response to subpoenas. Crabtree is alledged to have told the contract workers that they would not only lose their jobs, but go to jail, if they told anyone about what they had discovered.
There are several threads regarding Ms. Crabtree Callahan on FR.....
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