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Video on Islamic militant Web site appears to show beheading of American
Msnbc Website ^ | 5/11/04 | MSNBC

Posted on 05/11/2004 10:07:16 AM PDT by Heff

Video on Islamic militant Web site appears to show beheading of American

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
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To: Howlin
You better get out your checkbook.
381 posted on 05/11/2004 12:12:46 PM PDT by kcat
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To: finnman69
I saw a video of an russian solder beheaded once? Incredible gruesome and depressing. I'm assuming this will be even more horrible. I don't think I'll watch.
382 posted on 05/11/2004 12:13:13 PM PDT by EastCobbRules
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To: eastforker
Whatever. You know nothing about me, sir. You want to watch the video, have it.

Now who's the hypocrite?

Perhaps if you actually read my posts, you would see that I never supported exposing those pictures, but I (unlike some people here) see the paramount importance of resolving the issue in a very public matter. It doesn't matter how the matter started, it doesn't matter who leaked it. The only thing that matters is reality. It's my belief that anyone who thinks the biggest fish to fry here regarding the prisoner abuse is the media doesn't have a single clue why we're in the Middle East, who's support we need, and how we're going to be successful. You can scream till you're blue in the face that it's unfair and unjust to make such a big deal about it, but the deal has already been made big. The only thing that matters is how to freakin' stop the bleeding and get public opinion back on our side.

Instead, you'd rather sit on your lawn chair waving the flag while the building is burning to the ground. It doesn't matter what you or I think about it. It's not going to affect the war. If we come off as no better than Saddam, it will compromise our ENTIRE War on Terror, and provide false JUSTIFICATION for terrorist cells and their patrons to sponsor and carry out terrorist attacks, for example, the murder of Nick Berg.

The people who perpetrated the action in that prison need to be dealt with harshly. They have done more harm to this nation than you care to realize. We have high-level members of the Cabinet being told to step down, the President spends most of his time apologizing, and we look like a bunch of thugs.

Who exactly, is putting America first? You, who want the issue swept under your rug while the rest of the world passes judgment, or me, who wants accountability for the irresponsible, incomprehensible actions of soldiers sworn to uphold the reputation of the armed services? If you cannot determine the difference from someone "blaming America" and someone who sees the folly in this whole stupid episode, then I can't help you. Go ahead and keep waving the flag while Bush is voted out of office instead of nipping this in the bud right now and preserving his chances at re-election.
383 posted on 05/11/2004 12:13:19 PM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: bigdave1976
It is posted on websites that have been followed for a considerable length of time by terrorism analysts. It is real :(

The military confirmed yesterday that they found Berg's body. The media said it had "signs of obvious trauma". Gross understatement.
384 posted on 05/11/2004 12:13:23 PM PDT by StillProud2BeFree
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To: Bommer
Waht about Mr. Lawson? Was getting his nephew off worth this?
385 posted on 05/11/2004 12:13:42 PM PDT by highlandbreeze (....that others may live.)
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To: Frank_Discussion
Sons more often than not don't always agree with their fathers

That's true

386 posted on 05/11/2004 12:13:47 PM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: BushisTheMan
You can thank your friendly neighborhood Democrat or CBS (ghoul TV) for this death.

Let us not forget the lunatic Hackworth. I personally thanked him in the following manner:

I read an article this past weekend where you had put a relative of the Iraqi prison guard in touch with 60 Minutes II. Today, I read this:

"...video posted Tuesday on an Islamic militant Web site appeared to show a group affiliated with al-Qaida beheading an American in Iraq, saying the death was revenge for the prisoner-abuse scandal."

With the big deal that was made of the photos, as well as the world wide liberal media blitz, I have to wonder just how much you really care about the American Grunt who is walking the razors edge in defense of this nation against barbaric scum who would murder all of us regardless of where our troops are.

In other words, thanks for nothing, MOTHERF#*$ER!

ET1(SW) XXXXXXX X. XXXXXXXX (USN)


If you feel moved to send Hackworth(less) your own personal thanks, he can be reached at teagles@hackworth.com.
387 posted on 05/11/2004 12:14:51 PM PDT by wasp69 (This tag line for sale because Dave Ramsey said so.)
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To: Frank_Discussion
Sons more often than not don't always agree with their fathers

That's true

388 posted on 05/11/2004 12:15:14 PM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: finnman69
I watched it an hour ago, and I'm still shaking.
389 posted on 05/11/2004 12:15:29 PM PDT by So Cal Rocket (Fabrizio Quattrocchi: "Adesso vi faccio vedere come muore un italiano")
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To: MattGarrett
Let the word ring forth from this time and this place. You kill an American, any American, we don’t come back with a proportional response, we come back with total disaster!”
- President Jed Bartlett, THE WEST WING

How ironic! The first pussy who would be whining upon implimentation of this policy would be Martin Sheen!

390 posted on 05/11/2004 12:15:33 PM PDT by Bommer (John Kerry = "You mean I can get a Purple Heart for cutting myself shaving?")
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To: EastCobbRules
It was bad. You don't want to see the expression on the face as it's held up to the camera. Worse than the Pearl video.
391 posted on 05/11/2004 12:15:39 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: LongViewSC
The problem is we are ALREADY giving Muslims foreign aid and building hospitals, schools, and mosques for THEM to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars. We are fools. Our leaders would rather apologize like craven dogs, whimpering about an event that is no worse than college hazing. Now, watch what happens after the Berg beheading. We will probably have another dose of politically correct propaganda forced down our throats about how Islam is the "religion of peace."
392 posted on 05/11/2004 12:16:12 PM PDT by laughing_gas
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To: Christian4Bush; All
"If this (beheading)was a response to abuse that didn't happen, WTF is going to be held responsible for it? "




quoted here that it WAS in response:
http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/news/05112004_iraq_missingman.html

"A video posted Tuesday on an Islamic militant Web site
showed a group affiliated with al-Qaida beheading an American contractor
in Iraq, saying the death was revenge for the abuse of Iraqi prisoners by
American soldiers."

393 posted on 05/11/2004 12:16:32 PM PDT by JLO
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To: EastCobbRules
I just watched it and it is the most vicious, horrible act I have ever seen. I saw the Daniel Pearl video as well but this will stay with me for a very long time!
394 posted on 05/11/2004 12:16:44 PM PDT by TightyRighty
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To: pushforbush

From the middle of the video.

395 posted on 05/11/2004 12:16:48 PM PDT by Cooter
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To: finnman69
No. Don't be too sorry. I feel Damn sorry for Berg, but I think seeing it is not worth being sorry about. My only regret is that the atrocity ( a REAL ONE) took place at all. But maybe we need to see this sh*t again to know just what the heck is going on between us and the Islamofascists.

I was actually starting to feel a little bad for the "abused prisoners". Now I'm merely irritated that the idiot soldiers involved taped their perversity - let 'em rot, we got a war to win. And OLD MEDIA can take a flying f*** at a running camel!
396 posted on 05/11/2004 12:16:49 PM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Frank_Discussion
Sons more often than not don't always agree with their fathers

That's true

397 posted on 05/11/2004 12:17:12 PM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: Frank_Discussion
Sons more often than not don't always agree with their fathers

That's true

398 posted on 05/11/2004 12:17:44 PM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: pushforbush
Non-explicit screen shots can be seen in this news article:

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=540&u=/ap/20040511/ap_on_re_mi_ea/egypt_iraq_american_beheaded_3&printer=1
399 posted on 05/11/2004 12:18:07 PM PDT by pushforbush
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To: Bikers4Bush
It may be time to do what the Romans did to Cathage. Made a desert and call it peace. Kill them all, salt the fields, poison the wells leave the land unfit for live for generations.
400 posted on 05/11/2004 12:18:15 PM PDT by TXBSAFH (KILL-9 needs no justification.)
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