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Deadbeat Dads Offered Jail or Vasectomy
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| May 6, 2004
| AP
Posted on 05/07/2004 7:45:13 AM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
NEWPORT, Ky. (AP) -- For some men showing up in court for being habitually behind in child support, their choice is jail or a vasectomy.
Family Court Judge D. Michael "Mickey" Foellger has given the option to a few men who had multiple children and were tens of thousands of dollars behind on their child support.
Foellger said he considers it an effective way to get his message across - that having children is a responsibility.
"If these children are in poverty because these guys are not paying their child support, I have no qualms about it," he said of his policy. "I don't think these men deserve to have any more children."
Foellger, the only family court judge in northern Kentucky's Campbell County, said he has never ordered a man to have a vasectomy.
But for some men, the option is made clear: Go to jail for 30 days, or have the vasectomy. The option applies to men who have had more than four children with at least three different women, and who owe more than $10,000 in court-ordered support.
Foellger believes he can legally give the ultimatum because the men are in contempt for not paying the child support, and a judge has wide latitude to enforce his orders. In such instances, the child-support cases are civil, not criminal.
In his 17 months on the family court bench, Foellger said, he has made the proposal six or seven times. Two men reported back with doctors' notes saying they had the procedure. Three or four others are in the process of doing so. One chose jail time.
None of the men has appealed his orders.
Attorneys who practice domestic law in Campbell County were either not aware of Foellger's policy or were unwilling to comment on it.
Beth Wilson, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union in Kentucky, said the policy is questionable.
Wilson said that getting men to pay child support is right and just. But suggesting sterilization is going too far, Wilson said.
"The government should not be able to coerce anyone - whether directly or indirectly - to give up your constitutional protections," she said. "We're opposed to any type of sterilization that's forced or coerced by any government agency."
Foellger said he had considered offering women accused of multiple instances of abuse or neglect the option of having a tubal ligation. But he rejected that, saying it's an invasive procedure that could have unknown consequences.
A vasectomy, on the other hand, is simple and reversible, he said.
TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: deadbeatdads
To: LurkedLongEnough
drip drip
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posted on
05/07/2004 7:49:33 AM PDT
by
fooman
(Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
To: Vic3O3; cavtrooper21
I can recommend a Doctor for them to go to!
Semper Fi
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posted on
05/07/2004 7:56:03 AM PDT
by
dd5339
(Happiness is a full VM-II and a DEAD AND BURIED AWB!)
To: fooman
These men have children by multiple partners.They are not ordered to have a vasectomy..They are offered one instead of a month in jail..Children need to be taken care of,preferably in marriage with two parents.
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posted on
05/07/2004 7:58:25 AM PDT
by
MEG33
(John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
To: LurkedLongEnough
So when are deadbeat slut moms going to be told by the courts to have a hysterectomy?
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posted on
05/07/2004 7:59:30 AM PDT
by
Mulder
(Fight the future)
To: LurkedLongEnough
If it weren't so sad, it would be funny, but imagine the outrage, if the gender was reversed.
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posted on
05/07/2004 8:00:17 AM PDT
by
hobbes1
(Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
To: Mulder
GMTA
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posted on
05/07/2004 8:00:29 AM PDT
by
hobbes1
(Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
To: LurkedLongEnough
Jail. Vasectomy.
Neither options helps the kid.
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posted on
05/07/2004 8:05:35 AM PDT
by
Lunatic Fringe
(John F-ing Kerry??? NO... F-ING... WAY!!!)
To: Mulder
Great observation.
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posted on
05/07/2004 8:09:15 AM PDT
by
reelfoot
To: LurkedLongEnough
And why not apply this to welfare mommas who act similarly ?
I know of one who has nine kids, two of them in prison. Her daughter recently had to be sent home from school with lice. When the school representative knocked on her door, a man answered. She's not married, BTW. When the rep asked to see the mother, the guy said "Just a minute". Five minutes later he came back and said "She's not here."
We, the taxpayers, support her children while she has her little "afternoon delight". Meanwhile, her kids are hungry and dirty.
Is a public hanging too lenient?
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posted on
05/07/2004 8:09:32 AM PDT
by
jimt
To: Lunatic Fringe
but garnishing thier wages or putting them on the chain gang would...
I dont really think we want to go down the road of sterlizing people.
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posted on
05/07/2004 8:12:17 AM PDT
by
fooman
(Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
To: LurkedLongEnough
I can see it NOW!Hands off our bodies!Right to choose!
It's high time we removed the power of judges to rule in the private affairs of families.
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posted on
05/07/2004 9:11:41 AM PDT
by
kennyo
To: LurkedLongEnough
Newport KY...Right across from Cintroit Ohio.
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posted on
05/07/2004 9:26:23 AM PDT
by
TSgt
(What have you done for your country today?)
To: kennyo
It's high time we removed the power of judges to rule in the private affairs of families.
That would leave abused children in disfunctional homes, incest unpunished, spousal abuse unprosecuted, etc, etc, etc.
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posted on
05/07/2004 2:11:01 PM PDT
by
gcruse
(http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
To: LurkedLongEnough
These people basically breed like stray dogs and cats and they care for their children even worse. If they're going to dump their offspring onto the government to support then the government has a say in their fertility. I think maybe a cash award even should be offered to those who value their fertility so little --- maybe $200 in exchange for sterilization? It would certainly solve a lot of problems and certainly the crime problem.
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posted on
05/07/2004 2:32:16 PM PDT
by
FITZ
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