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Arab TV Shows Iraq Abuse Photos
CBS News.com ^ | 4/30/04

Posted on 04/30/2004 7:24:20 AM PDT by mondoman

Arab television stations led their newscasts Friday with photographs of Iraqi prisoners being humiliated by U.S. military police, with one main channel saying the pictures were evidence of the "immoral practices" of American forces.

The images, which document alleged abuses that have led to charges against six American soldiers, were first broadcast Wednesday night in the United States on CBS News' 60 Minutes II.

Last month, the U.S. Army announced 17 soldiers in Iraq, including a brigadier general, had been removed from duty after charges of mistreating Iraqi prisoners after the photographs surfaced.

American soldiers serving as military police at Abu Ghraib took the pictures. The investigation started when one soldier got them from a friend, and gave them to his commanders. The Army investigated, and issued a scathing report.

In March, the Army announced that six members of the 800th Military Police Brigade faced court-martial for allegedly abusing about 20 prisoners at Abu Ghraib. In addition to those criminal charges, the military has recommended disciplinary action against seven U.S. officers who helped run the prison.

According to the Army, one Iraqi prisoner was told to stand on a box with his head covered, wires attached to his hands. He was told that if he fell off the box, he would be electrocuted.

Some pictures show Americans, men and women in military uniforms, posing with naked Iraqi prisoners. There are shots of the prisoners stacked in a pyramid, one with a slur written on his skin in English. In some, the male prisoners are positioned to simulate sex with each other.

Another shows a detainee with wires attached to his genitals. Another shows a dog attacking an Iraqi prisoner. There is also a picture of an Iraqi man who appears to be dead — and badly beaten. In most of the pictures, the Americans are laughing, posing, pointing, or giving the camera a thumbs-up.

The images shown on Dubai-based Al-Arabiya and the Qatar-based Al-Jazeera were potentially inflammatory in an Arab world already angry at the U.S. occupation of Iraq.

Al-Jazeera introduced the pictures by saying they showed the "immoral practices" of Iraq's occupation forces. The anchor reported that some of those responsible would face trial and could be discharged from the Army.

The U.S. has stressed that the pictures violate military policy.

"Frankly, I think all of us are disappointed by the actions of the few," Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmitt, deputy director of coalition operations in Iraq, told 60 Minutes II.

"This is wrong. This is reprehensible. But this is not representative of the 150,000 soldiers that are over here," adds Kimmitt.

U.S. allies echoed that sentiment. Prime Minister Tony Blair's office on Friday condemned the alleged abuse of Iraqi prisoners of war by U.S. soldiers, but stressed the allegations did not reflect the conduct of the vast majority of coalition troops.

"The U.S. army spokesman has said this morning that he is appalled, that those responsible have let their fellow soldiers down, and those are views that we would associate the U.K. government with," Blair's official spokesman said.

Australian Prime Minister John Howard said Friday he was appalled by photographs showing American troops abusing Iraqi prisoners and congratulated the United States for charging the soldiers responsible.

Blair's human rights envoy to Iraq, Ann Clwyd, also condemned the alleged abuse.

"I think they are absolutely terrible," she told British Broadcasting Corp. radio, referring to the photographs. "I am shocked."

The human rights watchdog group Amnesty International believes the problem is much more widespread, saying it has many reports of Iraqis being abused at the hands of U.S. soldiers. A spokesman says the group has requested an independent investigation.

One soldier facing a court-martial for his role in the alleged abuse wrote in a journal that commanders ignored his requests to set out rules for treating POWs and scolded him for questioning the inmates' harsh treatment.

Army Reserves Staff Sgt. Ivan "Chip" Frederick began the journal after military investigators questioned him. Iraqi prisoners were sometimes confined naked for three consecutive days without toilets in damp, unventilated cells with floors 3 feet by 3 feet, Frederick wrote.

"When I brought this up with the acting BN (battalion) commander, he stated, 'I don't care if he has to sleep standing up.' That's when he told my company commander that he was the BN commander and for me to do as he says," Frederick wrote.

Lt. Cmdr. Nicholas Balice, spokesman for the Central Command said he couldn't comment on Frederick's writings, but that the allegations against him were appropriately investigated.

Frederick told 60 Minutes II by phone that he will plead not guilty, claiming the way the Army was running the prison led to the abuse of prisoners.

"We had no support, no training whatsoever. And I kept asking my chain of command for certain things … like rules and regulations," says Frederick. "And it just wasn't happening."

The Baltimore Sun's Friday editions identified two other soldiers facing court-martial. The newspaper cited unidentified Army officials in naming Sgt. Javal S. Davis, 26. His wife, who also spoke to the newspaper, defended her husband.

"We really don't know how those prisoners are behaving," said Zeenithia Davis, who is in the Navy in Mississippi. "There's a line between heinous war crimes and maintaining discipline."

A Sun reporter on Thursday showed a photo of one of the nude prisoner scenes to Terrie England, who recognized her daughter, reservist Lynndie R. England, 21, standing in the foreground with her boyfriend.

The alleged abuses of prisoners were "stupid, kid things — pranks," Terrie England said. "And what the (Iraqis) do to our men and women are just? The rules of the Geneva Convention, does that apply to everybody or just us?"

©MMIV, CBS Broadcasting Inc. All Rights Reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. The Associated Press contributed to this report.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cbsnews; iraq; iraqipow; torture; warcrimes
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1 posted on 04/30/2004 7:24:21 AM PDT by mondoman
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To: mondoman
Has Arab TV been showing Saddam's torture chambers and the mass graves?
2 posted on 04/30/2004 7:27:48 AM PDT by xrp
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To: mondoman
The media is ramping up the anti-war attack in high gear--looks like they will pursue the same strategy and tactics which worked during the Vietnam conflict.

I expect this subject will be amplified in the next few days. This story is already getting big play in the foreign press. Sorry if it is a duplicate post, but I did search the title and excerpting list.

mm
3 posted on 04/30/2004 7:28:54 AM PDT by mondoman
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To: xrp
Saw some of the photos...just terrible. What were these (our) soldiers thinking of?? They've brought shame on us.
4 posted on 04/30/2004 7:29:52 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: mondoman
CBS shows off Janet Jackson's boob. I don't care. They could do it again and I still wouldn't care.

But now they have offered aid and comfort of the enemy. They have handed over a propaganda tool that will be used to justify further acts of violence against our troops. It's time for the FTC to yank their broadcasting license.
5 posted on 04/30/2004 7:30:12 AM PDT by shadowman99
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To: mondoman
The funny thing is, this will probably give the US more "street cred" among Arabs than anything else ...
6 posted on 04/30/2004 7:30:44 AM PDT by hemogoblin (The few, the proud, the 537.)
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To: mondoman
Stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid! What the hell were they thinking.
7 posted on 04/30/2004 7:32:15 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: mondoman
Thank you CBS for helping the Al Jazeera propaganda machine. Your contribution to our soldiers' safety is so appreciated.
8 posted on 04/30/2004 7:32:23 AM PDT by VRWCmember (Bush's Viet Nam?! Shut up, Teddy; Iraq isn't even Bush's Chappaquidick!)
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To: mondoman
Hell, most college fraternity hazing events are worse than what they did to those smelly Iraqis. Cry me a river, Dan Rather.
9 posted on 04/30/2004 7:32:40 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: mondoman
Communist Broadcasting System
11 posted on 04/30/2004 7:34:11 AM PDT by BenLurkin (LESS government please, NOT more.)
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To: mondoman
Communist
Broadcasting
System
12 posted on 04/30/2004 7:34:50 AM PDT by BenLurkin (LESS government please, NOT more.)
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To: Elisha_Ben_Abuya
"and indeed, my greatest fear is that this will encourage further televised torture/murder of western captives."

Yeah, we would want to upset these savages! They might turn into barbarians!!

Jesus!
13 posted on 04/30/2004 7:35:44 AM PDT by Formoore04
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To: mondoman
"American soldiers serving as military police at Abu Ghraib took the pictures. The investigation started when one soldier got them from a friend, and gave them to his commanders. The Army investigated, and issued a scathing report."

My comment from another, related thread:

Keep in mind that other soldiers must have reported this activity and turned in the photos. Soldiers with honor reported the misconduct to the appropriate authorities (I assume) and the dishonorable actions will be dealt with by the chain of command.

Dishonorable soldiers would have waited until they could organize some protests and give testimony in Senate hearings, as a result creating a political career!
14 posted on 04/30/2004 7:39:57 AM PDT by CSM (Vote Kerry! Boil the Frog! Speed up the 2nd Revolution! (Be like Spain! At least they're honest))
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To: mondoman

15 posted on 04/30/2004 7:41:06 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,Election '04...It's going to be a bumpy ride,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø)
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To: mondoman
It was a bad situation. It has been dealt with. And those in charge will be facing very serious consequences. However, shame on Al Jazeera and CBS trying to put this forward as 'NEW NEWS"; when in fact it is old news. It's on the line of the "when did you stop beating your life" favorite civil abuse tactic of liberals.
16 posted on 04/30/2004 7:41:51 AM PDT by Alia (California -- It's Groovy! Baby!)
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To: Sacajaweau
Judging from the photos, looks like the result from Clinton's "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" program.

Sick, very SICK people......
17 posted on 04/30/2004 7:45:03 AM PDT by RedMonqey (Its is dangerous to be right when your government is wrong)
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To: shadowman99
CBS Network only holds a few TV station licenses, and those are regulated by the FCC (not the FTC).

The real source of power is in the ownership of the affiliate stations, as exemplified by the Sinclair Group's decision to not run ABC's Night Line. Affiliate ownership groups are the license holders. Under their affiliate contract with the network (CBS, NBC, ABC, FOX, etc.) they have the commercial right to air or not air any content provided by network. There is NO LEGAL requirement from the FCC to broadcast all network feeds. There are, however, contractual clauses stipulating the affiliate's responsibility and obligations to the network with corresponding financial implications.
18 posted on 04/30/2004 7:46:25 AM PDT by mondoman
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To: mondoman
"We had no support, no training whatsoever. And I kept asking my chain of command for certain things … like rules and regulations," says Frederick. "And it just wasn't happening."

I read in a similar news article (couldn't find it mentioned in this article) that the soldier quoted here is a corrections officer in his civilian job. Now I understand that his leadership deserves blame for not providing the proper instruction to the soldiers. However, it seems like this individual at least should know that this type of behavior regarding the prisoners would be far from appropriate.

But then again, I would say it was a no-brainer that this type of behavior would be forbidden.

19 posted on 04/30/2004 7:46:53 AM PDT by AQGeiger (This is a generic tagline. Insert your favorite tagline here.)
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To: mondoman
The major media are the enemy. Its time they were treated as such.
20 posted on 04/30/2004 7:46:57 AM PDT by skeeter
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