Posted on 04/30/2004 7:19:52 AM PDT by dead
For images of actual torture, check out this festival of islamic fun and games - http://www.bootsandsabers.com/archives/002477.html (WARNING: gruesome nauseating scenes of slow beheadings of conscious men, anal penetration up through the shoulder with a spike, that sort of thing.)
The foreign liberals are absolutely ecstatic over these photos (the tame American ones), which give them a chance to grow faint with disgust and outraged to the point of a seizure. I’m not exaggerating. Check out this dopey quote from SMH’s liberal uber-whinger, Margo Kingston:
I'm still trying to breathe after seeing on Lateline the photos of American soldiers smiling as they pose with tortured Iraqi prisoners, if torture is the word for the horror. The images are out of a Caligula movie. The world has gone to hell. George Bush's war on Iraq will haunt all our lives. I recant my objections to Latham's policy. Out now! There must be a better way, there must be. We must find leaders fast, real fast.
Oh for goodness sakes Margo, get a grip on yourself, you preening idiot. The actions of those troops were wrong. They are being court-marshalled for it. As Aussie PM John Howard stated:
"I was appalled but I note immediately, and it should be said immediately, in the defence of the military that they are court martialling people. People who did far worse than that under Saddam Hussein were promoted, they weren't court martialled. They were lauded, they were encouraged. It was an instrument of state policy to do far worse than that to murder people and to not just to intimidate them but to actually torture them and mutilate them and kill them.
In a US occupation force of 150,000 people you will get some who misbehave. So give the Americans credit for openly saying 'yes it's a problem, we're are going to punish people if they've committed crimes'."
Somebody get Margo some water.
But I'm pretty sure the asian guy wasn't asked and didn't tell.
They are doing exactly that. Our reputation in that regard will remain secure.
Anyway, Courts Martial their asses into the brig and outta the Army.
I'm not saying I agree with it but hey, this stuff happens. I don't think it's that big of a deal other than the idiots did it knowing they they were on home video. For that they should be court marshalled or charges of idiocy.
Just do a little reading into interrogation tactics used aginst Germans post May 1945.
It angers me beyond anger! I have a very strong heart, but dangit, I couldn't watch all of those all the way through!! I could only watch a couple before that muslim chanting made me want to send a few Enola Gays over to the Mid East.
People around the world and specifically in this country have no idea what they are doing by allowing muslims into it! It WILL ruin this country. There should be absolutely no question about that. I just question and wonder when the civil war here starts.
Meanwhile, I guarantee you that many of the so called "peace loving muslims" really don't mind this type of stuff. They surely rarely speak out on it in similar horror to which most civilized people do.
In the meantime, a few excerpts from the Quran/Koran:
[2.193] And fight with them until there is no persecution, and religion should be only for Allah
[4.89] They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.
[4.95] The holders back from among the believers, not having any injury, and those who strive hard in Allah's way with their property and their persons are not equal
[4.144] O you who believe! do not take the unbelievers for friends rather than the believers; do you desire that you should give to Allah a manifest proof against yourselves?
[5.51] O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.
[8.39] And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah; but if they desist, then surely Allah sees what they do.
[9.5] So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
[9.11] But if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, they are your brethren in faith
So much for religious freedom, eh!!
[9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.
[9.30] And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!
[9.33] He it is Who sent His Apostle with guidance and the religion of truth, that He might cause it to prevail over all religions, though the polytheists may be averse.
[9.123] O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil).
Interesting how if allowed to permeate our nation these very own tenets from the Quran would destroy this country and turn it into a hell hole! Literally, a "hell hole!"
Every single one of those is straight from the first ten chapters of the Quran!
HELLO AMERICA!!!
"Peace Loving"....I don't think so!!
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