Six more Years (Will Spectre be grateful? - NO)

The American Spectator website ^ | April 28, 2004 | Shawn Macomber

[BigSkyFreeper]

LOL. I knew sooner or later you'd come by and post in the thread, still stinging about Bob Smith.

[freeangel]

They are looking ahead. They shudder at the thought of this jerk heading up the judiciary com. of all things. Tell us all how you appreciate him when that happens. If Bush does such a good job looking beyond the horizon, why did he leave clarke and others in to bite him on the butt.

[RobFromGa]

I act that way...no way will I vote for Specter.

I didn't say that "adult" Toomey supporters can't withhold their support from Snarlin' Arlen.

I said that Toomey couldn't do it. When he ran as a GOP candidate in this primary, IMHO he gave up the ability to run as an Independent if he lost. It just isn't done, and he would not have any chance to win statewide, heck he couldn't even win a Republican primary statewide.

It pains me to defend Specter and I really wanted Toomey to win, but we have already dodged the #1 bullet: A Specter win with the President having campaigned against him. That would have been ugly. The late surge by Toomey was a surprise to almost everyone.

[genefromjersey]

It would appear all the confident articles "proving" Spector would lose at the primaries were a bit too optimistic.

Hope the confident forecasts about President Bush as not as far off !

[BigSkyFreeper]

In 2002, Bush came to Montana to campaign for Mike Taylor for Senate (against incumbent Max Baucus (D)), who was just as Conservative if not more Conservative than Toomey ever was. Baucus couldn't handle the popularity Taylor was garnering, his seat was threatened, and so he decided to get down and dirty and label Taylor a homosexual. Taylor decided to drop out because Baucus had a huge war chest that Taylor just couldn't match.

There should have been no excuse that Toomey should have won PA and upset Specter. Toomey ran a statewide campaign that crisscrossed the state several times over and was breathing down the neck of Specter while the pundits predicted an upset, and 1/3 of the state's registered Republicans didn't even bother to show up at the polls. Mike Taylor got even more votes even after he had dropped out of his campaign because Baucus hit him with a low blow. Even many Democrats were mad at Baucus. Baucus is just as liberal as Daschle, and many hardlined Democrats voted for Taylor.

[BigSkyFreeper]

If Bush does such a good job looking beyond the horizon, why did he leave clarke and others in to bite him on the butt.

Clarke didn't bite Bush, he didn't do his damn job, period. I have no sympathy for people who get mad because they got let go or fired for not doing their jobs.

[cuz_it_aint_their_money]

Specter is more liberal than most Dems. I hope all Toomey voters stay home on election day.

Well, I for one will not be staying home on election day.
However, if Snarlin' Arlen thinks he is going to get my vote, he is mistaken. I made a vow to never cast another vote for this sorry excuse of a human being and I mean to keep that vow.
And, since I also cannot bring myself to vote for a DemonRat, I will be writing in Pat Toomey's name in protest instead.

[Formoore04]

"A Specter win with the President having campaigned against him. That would have been ugly."

But he only won because of the Bush endorsement. Now you're just making up worthless senarios to somehow feel good about this terrible outcome.

Specter would have lost in a landslide defeat if Bush endorsed Toomey. Yeah, thank God we dodged that bullet... </sacrcasm>

[BigSkyFreeper]

If Specter is such a squishy Senator, why did 1/3 of the state's 3.1 million registered Republicans stay home and sit on their hands? Then the morning after, howling at the prospects of Specter chairing the judiciary committee? Toomey campaigns his tail off, 1/3 of the states stoking the fire inside their belly, then the day of the election, a 1/3 of the Republicans don't bother to go vote, in the end Toomey comes up short. That's how it works sometimes.

[Redleg Duke]

"I hope he loses the general."

Man, what a mature comment! I suppose you are now going to sit on your hands and "send President Bush a message" this coming November! People like you are why the RATS continue to exist!

[Miss Marple]

Endorsement of the President is valuable, but I am not sure it would have helped Toomey that much. Coupled with the endorsement of Santorum, I am sure it got Arlen a couple of points. However, Toomey didn't draw the support I thought he would. Lots of people didn't vote.

My big fear of Toomey was that he would energize those democrats who are unenthusiastic about Kerry and draw them to the polls, where they would vote straight democrat. Since Pennsylvania is in play for the elctoral votes, I would have hated to lose it because of the Senate race.

The final answer to this is that Toomey just didn't garner enough support. He did finish surprisingly strong, however. Perhaps Senator Specter will be a bit more humble in his attitude. And much as I dislike him, his presence in the Senate allows us to hold the majority.

[Redleg Duke]

"Specter is more liberal than most Dems. I hope all Toomey voters stay home on election day."

Another infantile comment! Another promoter of the RAT Party.

[Born Conservative]

I wonder if there will be a recount? Last night (while FR was crashed), there was news that Bucks County erroneously gave Specter 95,000 votes (the error apparently was fixed). I'm just now going through the threads, but haven't seen anything else on this...

[petercooper]

Specter may as well be in the RAT party. I don't know how any sane conservative could vote for this scumbag.

[verity]

The logic of your position is either infantile or senile! :~)

[DustyMoment]

I am not convinced that Specter's defeat would have cost us the seat in the general election, but Senator Santorum, and President Bush were.

That may be, but with Specter in the Senate, are conservatives REALLY all that much better off? His record is every bit that of a RINO in the tradition of John McCain. If we conservatives intend to get conservatives appointed to the judiciary, having Specter in the Senate is NOT the way to get there.

[Formoore04]

"his presence in the Senate allows us to hold the majority."

And who is "us"? I am a conservative, and he his not allowing conservatives to hold a majority in the Senate.

[Miss Marple]

Well, I am a conservative Republican, and while Specter is not in agreement with me in about 50% of his votes, he allows Republicans to hold the committee chairmanships and the majority leader's position, allowing us to have a bit of control over legislation.

I think it will be a long time before only conservatives hold the majority. In the meantime, I take what I can get. Other opinions differ, but that is how I think.

[Formoore04]

"Well, I am a conservative Republican"

I suppose that modifier means all the difference. I've never met a pro-abortion, anti-tax cut, pro-big government, anti-second amendment conservative before.

But you're a "conservative Republican" so I guess it's okay.

And don't tell me you're not all of those things, because that's exactly what you're voting for when you vote for pro-abortion, pro-big government, anti-RKBA, and anti-tax cut Arlen Specter.

[ClintonBeGone]

Why should he be grateful to the people that bashed him? If you're going to kill the king, kill the king. If you don't, expect the repercussions. How naive for one to think the winner in an election would be expected to be grateful.