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To: churchillbuff
There are AT LEAST

TWO OTHER

possible explanations . . . for such claims . . .

Person B alive now, would have easily been followed in terms of ancestory of any sort by demonic forces alive since creation. Such demonic forces would have plenty of information and power capacity to simulate anything desired for seducing a currently living person into a philosophical/religious orientation feeding satan's agenda.

Person B alive now could also have easily been followed by any number of ET type races in terms of person B's ancestory of any sort in a way similar to demonic tracking and manipulating.

I know of NO means, short of Holy Spirit discernment, to detect such goings on.

I know of NO means to prove reincarnation vs the above.
7 posted on 04/24/2004 11:45:48 AM PDT by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: Quix
I know of NO means to prove reincarnation vs the above.

I guess one would just have to take it as a matter of faith, just like immaculate conception, and rising from the dead after being crucified.

11 posted on 04/24/2004 11:49:24 AM PDT by Young Rhino (http://www.artofdivorce.com)
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To: Quix
I agree with your possible scenarios, but there's one more: The parents made it all up. The kid has a natural interest in planes. The parents, either consciously or subconsciously, fed the kid information.
31 posted on 04/24/2004 12:12:37 PM PDT by alnick (Mrs. Heinz-Kerry's husband wants teh-rayz-ah your taxes.)
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To: Quix
???

Yes I would say there are at least two other possible explanations. In fact there are infinite possible explanations.

But I have to say the two possible explanations you mentioned are the least likely and most unfathomable, of any of the infinite possible explanations.
38 posted on 04/24/2004 12:35:20 PM PDT by Oblongata
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To: Quix
Alas! A person who understands why the belief in reincarnation is possible. I didn't say reincarnation I said the belief in it.

"It is appointed a man once to die...then the judgement."
42 posted on 04/24/2004 12:48:46 PM PDT by BriarBey
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To: Quix
Person B alive now, would have easily been followed in terms of ancestory of any sort by demonic forces alive since creation. Such demonic forces would have plenty of information and power capacity to simulate anything desired for seducing a currently living person into a philosophical/religious orientation feeding satan's agenda.

Yep, I agree with you. This what the bible refers to as 'familar spirits'. These spirits are what the soothsayers (fortune tellers) work with. I do not believe in reincarnation. Each one of us is unique there is no one else like you and there will never be. Sorry, but I think like JonBenet Ramsey's parents used her, this kid is being u$ed, too.

73 posted on 04/24/2004 1:29:26 PM PDT by shiva
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To: Quix
#7 - what you said!
76 posted on 04/24/2004 1:33:14 PM PDT by mombonn
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To: Quix
There are AT LEAST TWO OTHER possible explanations . . . for such claims . . .

Why only two? All you have to do is invoke epistemic defect of any kind, or alternatively, quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur = "they have no hard evidence" (= OK by me), and poof, your challenge to faith goes away.

Don't you feel better now?

81 posted on 04/24/2004 1:58:39 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Et praeterea caeterum censeo, delenda est Carthago. -- M. Porcius Cato)
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To: Quix
A pastor of mine made an interesting observation: Proof of unexplainable/paranormal/supernatural phenomena doesn't also prove divine (or reincarnate) origins--as the world is filled with demonic beings, who have memory and intelligence.

I'd be almost surprised if the parents (and grandparents) have not dabbled in the occult.
123 posted on 04/24/2004 4:28:10 PM PDT by AnalogReigns
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To: Quix
Consider what I think are two more likely explanations for this and similar claims of reincarnation.

The collective unconscious - at some level, everyone alive is 'connected' at an unconscious (or subconscious) level. We can (and sometimes do) tap into the memories and thougts of other people. This is not bound by time or space. The memories this child has may legitimately be of the downed pilot, but that's not to say that the child and the pilot are any more the same person as I am the same person as either the child or the pilot.

Race Memory - Most of the grey cells in our brains are for storage of information. It's the most sophisticated compter in existence. In it, all the events of your life are recorded in super high-fidelity. Almost everyone's memory is perfect (except those who have chemical problems in their brain, or have sustained physical injury that harmed the brain). Indeed, when we 'forget' something, it is our recall that is failing, not our memory.

Anyway, I am convinced that the grey brain cells do more than just record our own life experience. They contain the complete collective life experiences of all the past people in our ancestry and lineage - indeed, because of the nature of the extended family tree, for practical purposes the memories of the human race are represented in this matrix.

On top of that, it has information they knew of historical or fictional events, books, songs, stories, etc.

The subconsious mind has difficulty distingishing (and I think simply can't distinguish, but the jury is still out on that one) from very vivid visualizations/imaginations and memories of real events. To the extent that particularly vivid images are part of the collectve race memory, they form legitimate 'memories' that are still stored in our DNA and our grey brain cells. Indeed, these can be memories of things that never actuially happened.

It's easy to see then how someone could have legitimate 'memories' of events that they never experienced. A sense of 'deja vu' for example, or detailed dreams of past events before their birth. These are esentially recollections of memories of the human race.

I have studied reincarnation and other related phenomena, and this explanation is the best in my estimation.

Also note that the collective unconscious and the concept of race memory are not mutually exclusive - they can be (and I suspect are) both at work to explain what is commonly called 'reincarnation.'

Of course, I can't prove any of this. :-)
202 posted on 04/25/2004 2:36:55 AM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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