Strayhorn: Shut down the topless bars (Texas)

AUSTIN AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF ^ | Thursday, April 22, 2004 | By Ken Herman and Michelle M. Martinez

[Cobra Scott]

The irony is, that in texas, if a club does not serve alcohol, it is legal to bring in your own. They can still charge $2 for a glass of ice, and they will. In fact, it will be just one less license requirement, and make it easier for them to operate. The whole thing would probably backfire. The same thing was attempted in the 80's with pool halls and arcades. They haven't gone anywhere (although some were cleaned up considerably).

[Just another Joe]

Why is it when someone works in a job that someone else doesn't like they are automatically a "prostitute"?
These woman didn't go out with customers and have sex. They didn't do lap dances. They didn't let customers grope them while masturbating in their pants.
They all have morals. What is the big deal about the nude female body?

Anyone?

I'm sorry, hopesprings, I can't agree with you. Just because someone lets others view their nude body doesn't mean they have no morals or they are prostitutes.
JMO

[Vision]

However, if we can outlaw porn, or whatever people want to call the sex industry, our Bibles could be next.

Don't you think that's a stretch?

[Vision]

They can get by waiting tables. The exact same way I did. They don't have to sell themselves.

[Vision]

I'm have been trying to figure out what the issue was all along. Thanks for telling me about the "topless tax".

[The Green Goblin]

You all believe topless bars are good for a culture. They produce positive rolls for young men and women and their relationships?

In a good topless club, you won't see any rolls...

[Just another Joe]

They don't have to sell themselves.

As I told hopespringseternal, they didn't.

[Just another Joe]

Don't you think that's a stretch?

No.

[Vision]

As I told hopespringseternal, they didn't.

I'd recommend stopping yourself from believing that stripping is not selling yourself. It won't make it come any more true.

[Vision]

No

If we outlaw porn, the Bible could be next. So we should not outlaw anything? Child porn is illegal, and I can still read the Bible.

[hopespringseternal]

Why is it when someone works in a job that someone else doesn't like they are automatically a "prostitute"?

Strawman. I would never want to be a cop or soldier, but it is a respectable job many respectable people do.

These woman didn't go out with customers and have sex. They didn't do lap dances. They didn't let customers grope them while masturbating in their pants.

The virtuous stripper. LOL. Right up there with "I get Playboy for the articles."

What is the big deal about the nude female body?

I think it is great, but that doesn't mean I want my wife or daughter standing on tables for a bunch of pervs.

Just because someone lets others view their nude body doesn't mean they have no morals or they are prostitutes.

Actually, it means exactly that. This moral relativism schtick was stupid even when it was a new fad, now it is way past its prime. Some things are just plain wrong, always have been and always will be.

Strippers are not nice people. At best, they are terribly confused, insecure young women from bad homes. The men who frequent these clubs never matured beyond hitting puberty at best. The average is much, much worse.

If you approve of it you are either ignorant of the reality of it or you aren't a very moral person yourself.

[Badeye]

Having been to Texas many times over the past few years, and with a scheduled trip to Dallas this fall, I'll just note the horse already left the barn, lady.

Give it a rest, unfettered mammaries are no "clear and present danger" to the world in general, or Texas specifically.

[Just another Joe]

I'd recommend stopping yourself from believing that stripping is not selling yourself. It won't make it come any more true.

No more so than a baseball/football/basketball/soccer player.
No more so than someone hiring you for what's in your head and not for your body.
As I said before, it's not the place, it's the person.

[Vision]

No more so than a baseball/football/basketball/soccer player. No more so than someone hiring you for what's in your head and not for your body.

No way

[Dan from Michigan]

Perry defended the proposed fee, noting it aligns with his goal of increasing taxes on "unhealthy" behavior. He also wants a dollar-per-pack hike in cigarette taxes

. I thought Republicans were supposed to be anti-tax.....

[BJClinton]

Next thing you know, she'll be wanting to outlaw beer!

In Texas that is political suicide akin to an income tax.

[TheBigB]

Give it up, Joe. Some folks are just tight-lipped, blue haired busybodies. Lewis Grizzard called 'em "damp people"...that's as good a description as any. Always unhappy, always moaning and complaining about something.

[Just another Joe]

but it is a respectable job many respectable people do.

Just because YOU don't think it's respectable doesn't make it so.

The virtuous stripper. LOL. Right up there with "I get Playboy for the articles."

Nothing in this statement at all.
I'm not saying every stripper out there is NOT a prostitute and/or not immoral. All of the strippers out there are NOT prostitutes and immoral either.

Actually, it means exactly that.

Where do you get this information? I don't think you can point to any source other than your own opinion.

Strippers are not nice people. At best, they are terribly confused, insecure young women from bad homes

I can see that you have no idea what you're talking about. Either that or you believe in absolutes that you have no proof of.

If you approve of it you are either ignorant of the reality of it or you aren't a very moral person yourself.

Don't put words in my mouth.

Every stripper is not immoral just as every judge is not a paragon of virtue.
Once again, you speak of something you have no knowledge of. You say that I'm not a very moral person with no knowledge of me whatsoever except that I don't see viewing the nude female body as being immoral.

[Arrowhead1952]

The irony is, that in texas, if a club does not serve alcohol, it is legal to bring in your own. They can still charge $2 for a glass of ice, and they will. In fact, it will be just one less license requirement, and make it easier for them to operate.

Strayhorn was adamant in her call for legislation barring alcohol at "sexually oriented nightclubs."

"If these clubs can stay in business selling lemonade and iced tea, at least I will feel better about the safety of the dancers," she said. "Alcohol can make the meek violent, the quiet loud and the passive aggressive. People can and do get hurt in these clubs."

Carol-what-ever-her-last-name-is wants to BAN alcohol period. Patrons cannot bring alcohol into the clubs under her proposed legislation. This woman needs to be put out to pasture.

[BJClinton]

Is she a demonrat or rino?

Depends on the day of the week, time of the day. Sometimes she can be down right conservative.