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To: kattracks
In all the carping about the records of JK and whether or not he 'earned' his medals - has anyone thought that this whole line of questioning will re-open a very detailed review of GWB's records. Is this really a good strategy, or a game of 'gotcha'? I was under the impression that service during this time was beyond questioning - just as long as it was service.
Go back over 30 years and pulling apart one man's record, in my opinion puts into question the service rendered by all. If JK did not 'deserve' his medals from Vietnam, I think all medals awarded there come into questions - is that some place we want to go? I really don't think it is.
I'm sure there are many who will dwell on these issues - but you are re-opening a huge can of worms & will have no leg to stand on when others question the service record of GWB. Dengrating the service & medals of one - brings into question the service & medals of all. If the system was so awful that medals were awarded to one when they were not earned, taints all the medals awarded. I really don't want to start down the road of selective honor for service given.
78 posted on 04/20/2004 6:32:15 PM PDT by familyofman
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To: familyofman
No, Purple Hearts awarded for bruises and scrapes denigrates the service and medals of all.


My name is Forrest, Forrest Gump. I got shot in the but-tocks.

86 posted on 04/20/2004 6:38:43 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: familyofman
Gawd, you are insufferably MOROSE all the damn time.

And where were you the ENTIRE month of February? His records have been gone over with a fine toothed comb.

109 posted on 04/20/2004 6:53:15 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: familyofman
Ah, here you are again, trying to demoralize everyone.

Bush has already released all of his records. If there had been anything qustionable, we would already have seen the media firestorm.

What is your motive in trying to keep us from asking for Kerry's records?

121 posted on 04/20/2004 6:57:17 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: familyofman
Just one minor correction, sport. It's KERRY who keeps bringing up his service record. He can't speak five words without saying "Vietnam".

Bush was accused of the same thing with the flight suit and the aircraft carrier. His records have already been released. You can be sure that the unbiased media has searched them for any possible scandal.

In other words, your warnings are a waste of time. Bush has been given the full rectal exam, while Kerry gets a pass.
149 posted on 04/20/2004 7:10:49 PM PDT by watchin
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To: familyofman
"In all the carping about the records of JK and whether or not he 'earned' his medals - has anyone thought that this whole line of questioning will re-open a very detailed review of GWB's records."

Since Dubya released his full military & medical records, and they have been thoroughly searched by the press, etc., I highly doubt there are any other questions to ask about his National Guard service, especially in light of the fact that there have been witnesses who stepped forward and made statements that Bush was where he was supposed to be. As well, this whole shebang was brought up in the 2000 campaign without luck, and one of the major newspapers did a thorough investigation of it back then and found the story had no legs.

187 posted on 04/20/2004 7:25:35 PM PDT by mass55th
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To: familyofman; xzins
In all the carping about the records of JK and whether or not he 'earned' his medals - has anyone thought that this whole line of questioning will re-open a very detailed review of GWB's records.

He threw those medals over a fence. He showed contempt for the medals he allegedly earned by throwing them over a fence. Then we come to find out he really threw someone else's medals over the fence. He wanted to keep his own medals, just in case he needed them in the future for some political advantage.

J F'n Kerry is a phoney baloney plastic bannana. He wouldn't know integrity if it bit him in the butt. But if, by chance, it did, I'm sure he'd cry about it and then apply for a forth purple heart.

199 posted on 04/20/2004 7:31:31 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Let your light so shine before men....)
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To: familyofman
"Dengrating the service & medals of one - brings into question the service & medals of all."

But it was alright for Kerry to denigrate each and every soldier who served in Vietnam by claiming they had ALL committed atrocities on a regular basis? And as far as his medals go, he saw fit to let everyone think that he'd thrown them over the fence at the Capitol Building, so what's the big deal? If he had no respect for the medals then, whether they had been his or someone else's, why should we give him any respect about it now? Kerry is the one who has bragged repeatedly about his Vietnam service. He's the one who brought it all up first and the Democrats have touted it, and belittled the service or non-service of others. It's my opinion that Kerry opened the door for questions to be asked and his military record & medals he received are fair game.

219 posted on 04/20/2004 7:38:39 PM PDT by mass55th
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To: familyofman
Kerry's records should be questioned. I don't consider my service in Nam being diminished by scrutiny of Kerry.

Kerry was forefront in attempting to slander an entire generation of soldiers.

The moral equivalency argument was merely his attempt to drag us all down with him.

It's obvious to me he hasn't changed. Consider that before you pay a dime for his dance.

337 posted on 04/20/2004 9:02:12 PM PDT by smoothsailing (Eagles Up !!!!!)
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To: familyofman
Dengrating the service & medals of one - brings into question the service & medals of all

No it does not.

Kerry is running on his war record. Bush is not. It's Kerry's issue through and through.

I personally do not like the precedent this has set but I'd rather have the truth be told when someone is forcing the issue, as Kerry is.

368 posted on 04/20/2004 9:59:54 PM PDT by GretchenM (Want to see more U.S. soldiers stay alive? Drench them in prayer.)
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To: familyofman
Dengrating the service & medals of one - brings into question the service & medals of all.

Seems Mr Kerry has already been there/done that.

VIETNAM WAR VETERAN JOHN KERRY'S TESTIMONY BEFORE THE SENATE FOREIGN RELATIONS COMMITTEE, APRIL 22, 1971

Statement of Mr. John Kerry

...I am not here as John Kerry. I am here as one member of the group of 1,000 which is a small representation of a very much larger group of veterans in this country, and were it possible for all of them to sit at this table they would be here and have the same kind of testimony....

WINTER SOLDIER INVESTIGATION

I would like to talk, representing all those veterans, and say that several months ago in Detroit, we had an investigation at which over 150 honorably discharged and many very highly decorated veterans testified to war crimes committed in Southeast Asia, not isolated incidents but crimes committed on a day-to-day basis with the full awareness of officers at all levels of command.... They told the stories at times they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war, and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this country.(snip)

Mr Kerry's remarks were used to broad-brush all the returning Vietnam servicemen as walking war crimes. So if you know anyone who got spat on or worse when they got back, have them thank Mr. Kerry.

430 posted on 04/21/2004 8:51:11 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (Mischief! Thou art afoot. Take thou what course thou wilt. (Othello))
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