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Nations beaten by underestimated foes
Aberdeen American News ^ | April 18, 2004 | Art Marmorstein

Posted on 04/18/2004 7:00:20 PM PDT by jwalburg

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To: RussianConservative; swilhelm73
True, and as long as we still support theIslamists in Kosoovo, Chechnya and Pakistna, we can't win the WoT. Our allies are Russia and India and Israel, we must have them on our side along with the UK, Australia, New Z, Japan, etc.
21 posted on 04/19/2004 4:08:49 AM PDT by Cronos (W2K4!)
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To: Light Speed
Just imagine if we had managed to convert the Golden Horde toChristianity! Then, the cult would have been decimated in the 13th century.
22 posted on 04/19/2004 4:11:16 AM PDT by Cronos (W2K4!)
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To: TonyRo76; Honorary Serb; RussianConservative
True, I was misled to believe by the media that it was an ethnic war, but it's not an ethnic war, its a religious one funded by the Saudis. The Sauds are the real cause of the current problem -- they fund madrassass in Pak and Afgh, they fund the PLO and the genocide squads in Sudan, they fund hte Kosovaras and Chechens, even alQ
25 posted on 04/19/2004 6:13:25 AM PDT by Cronos (W2K4!)
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To: TonyRo76
I strongly believe that Bush will either solve this mess or push us into a better position. The mind boggles at what would happen if Kerry wins....
27 posted on 04/19/2004 6:28:35 AM PDT by Cronos (W2K4!)
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To: epigone73
Well one hebe and one christian, when do we attack?
28 posted on 04/19/2004 6:33:30 AM PDT by reluctantwarrior (Strength and Honor, just call me Buzzkill for short......)
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To: TonyRo76; Cronos; RussianConservative; Archie Bunker on steroids; FormerLib
True, and as long as we still support the Islamists in Kosoovo, Chechnya and Pakistan, we can't win the WoT...Bump to that! Especially Kosovo.

That also goes for the illegitimate islamist entity of "Bosnia", which was specifically set up by its "founders" as a launching pad for islamist subversion of Europe!!!! Well, despite NATO and UN forces in Bosnia, it has been involved in funneling illegal immigrants from the entire islamic world into Western Europe, in training and financing of mujehadin terrorists, and as a base of operations for Iranian inbtelligence and for Al Qaeda. Not to mention keeping the Serbian residents of Republika Srpska hostage to the machinations both of "human rightser" social engineers and the islamists.

The "Bosnian" islamists are the UNDISPUTED GRAND-MASTERS of the art of taqiyya--i.e., lying to advance the cause of islamic expansion and takeover. With the help of hired Western public-relations firms, they have convinced much of the world that they are "moderate muslims", when they are really islamoNazis. They have also convinced much of the world that they are "helpless victims" of Bosnian Serb "genocide". Nothing could be farther from the truth!!!! The islamoNazi "Bosnian" leaders even massacred other Bosnian muslims several times in Sarajevo to blame it on the Serbs, and to provoke US and European military action against Bosnian Serbs. (This is a common islamist practice, that, for example, the "Palestinians" have used time and time again against Israel.)

It's good to see some of my fellow Lutherans on FR posting on Balkan issues. Maybe some of you can come over on our ever-so-lively Balkan threads and let our resident shllls for "Bosnian" and Albanian islamoNazis know just exactly what you think of them!!!!

29 posted on 04/19/2004 4:57:03 PM PDT by Honorary Serb (Christ is risen!)
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To: jwalburg; MarMema
In AD 627, the Byzantine Emperor Heraclius won a great victory over the Persians at Nineveh...

The people we call "Byzantines" never called themselves by that name, nor did others call them so. They, the legitimate extension of the Roman Empire, called themselves Romans, or in their own Greek language, Romaioi. The term "Byzantine" was coined by 19th century British intellectuals who downgraded or ignored the contribution of the Romaic state (and its offshoots, such as mediaval Serbia) to world civilization. (In fact, much of the transmission of classical civilization to the West when it emerged from the early Middle Ages toward the Renaissance came from the Romaioi, not just from islam).

The 19th century intellectuals who gave us the term "Byzantine" were the Orthodox Christian-bashers of their day!!!! Their unworthy and enfeebled successors are the professional Serb-hating and Orthodox-bashing "human rightsers", who are GREAT CONTRIBUTORS to the process of in-fighting and degradation of American and West European civilization that this article discusses. They are also of course islamoNazi enablers and shills.

Ironically, the "human rightser"-inspired movement for "gay rights" and feminazi revisionism in "mainline" churches is so ruining them that many "mainline" Christians are investigating Orthodoxy. Quite a few of them have converted, and more are expected to do so in the coming years. Then the "human rightsers" can bash these new Orthodox Christians along with all the others, if they dare!!!

30 posted on 04/19/2004 5:15:14 PM PDT by Honorary Serb (Christ is risen!)
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To: Cronos
Just imagine if we had managed to convert the Golden Horde to Christianity!

I dunno....400 Denominations/schizm'z of the Golden Horde..like Christianity of Today : )

A Mongol hurling himself upon a stack of prayer requests like *Robert Tilton?

"That was a cheap shot right out of the cheap seats"!

Ya..I know : )

31 posted on 04/19/2004 7:34:13 PM PDT by Light Speed
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To: RussianConservative
LOL... nice try! post some vodka recipes my Irish ass might be intrested!... When it comes to war the Russians always got it wrong!
32 posted on 04/19/2004 8:18:27 PM PDT by KingNo155
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To: KingNo155; A. Pole; Destro; MarMema
Yes, now go tell such to Peshqing, Kazars, Greeks, Mongols, Lithuanians, Poles, Swedes, Turks, Teutonics, French, Prussians, Austrians, Austro-Hungarians, British, Khivians, Chechins, Ingushians, Georgians, Uzbekies, Germans, Japanese, etc...sure they all at one time or other either bury whole own armies or nations in Russia.

There is no enemy that Russia not defeat, oh and before you say Afghanistan, Soviets loose 15K soldier for price of million Afghans...became choice of mass extermination or of leaving. And like all others new Chechin Wahhibist and Arab allies will in end be deader then deader.

33 posted on 04/19/2004 9:00:22 PM PDT by RussianConservative (Xristos: the Light of the World)
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To: Honorary Serb
We are the last line of traditional worship. I think the only reason the modernists are ignoring us for now is our overly ethnic flavor.

Those favoring the evil one in other countries are not slowed by our ethnicity, though.

34 posted on 04/19/2004 9:07:57 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: RussianConservative
The US needs to withdraw its forces from the Balkans unless they are there as part of the War on Terror. There needs to be greater cooperation with Russia in this War. We need to provide all assistance necessary as regards Russia's fight in Chechnia.

Kosovo should be returned to the Serbs as it was for centuries.
35 posted on 04/19/2004 9:08:16 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic RATmedia agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: Cronos
as long as we still support theIslamists in Kosoovo, Chechnya and Pakistna, we can't win the WoT. Our allies are Russia and India and Israel, we must have them on our side along with the UK, Australia, New Z, Japan, etc.

If you decide to enter politics I volunteer to work to get you elected.

36 posted on 04/19/2004 9:09:54 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: RussianConservative
While I know modern Greece sent soldiers to Russia during the civil war at the closing years of WW1 as part of a multinational allied effort to help the Whites I know of no Greek invasion of Russian soil.

Greeks of course colonized the Crimea and all over the coasts of the Black Sea - but she did so before there was ever any people called Russia. Scythians were not Russians. I do know that the pagan Varangian Rus tried to raid Constantinople and were wiped out by Greek Fire and later on the Crimean regions went to Rus over time - but no invasion by force of arms. In fact teh Czars were part Byzantine by blood.

So to be fair - Greeks have been in parts of Russia longer than Russians have been - aye, even before there were any Russians.

37 posted on 04/19/2004 9:10:32 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: jwalburg
I wouldn't say it has expanded geographically much lately.
But it hasn't shrunk much in the last few hundred years.
38 posted on 04/19/2004 9:12:23 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic RATmedia agree: Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit; Cronos
We need to provide all assistance necessary as regards Russia's fight in Chechnia. Kosovo should be returned to the Serbs as it was for centuries.

And you too. When are you and Cronos going to run? Let me know.

39 posted on 04/19/2004 9:13:35 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: Destro
Greeks have been in parts of Russia longer than Russians have been - aye, even before there were any Russians.

But what is the Greek root for the word "molodyetz"?

40 posted on 04/19/2004 9:16:05 PM PDT by MarMema
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