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Actor's HIV Infection Strikes Calif. Porn Industry
Yahoo News ^ | 4/15/04 | Gina Keating

Posted on 04/15/2004 6:39:05 PM PDT by marshmallow

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To: weegee
My Googleing has revealed that he was in a movie named "Skin Flick" which is sort of a art-house porn movie. I have no idea if he actually performed any acts in this movie. But he did appearently play a plumber. And I know plumbers always get some in straight porn.
61 posted on 04/15/2004 10:08:37 PM PDT by MattAMiller
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To: John H K; Senator Pardek; cyborg
There has always been the rumour that Magic went both ways....I heard it long before he ever got the slims.

I remember in manhattan(my home at the time) back in the early 80s when it was first happening in the west village and they weren't even sure what to call it yet....by 88 when I left, Christopher street had been decimated.

I recall back then they traced the first known case to a Scandinavian airline male flight attendant in the early 70s and they surmised it had begun in central Africa and had originated as a Simian virus and had crossed over either thru contaminated meat or bestiality there.

Further, there are those here who think we have had forms of it for a long time. Also, I know MDs in Miami back when I was treated for Typhoid in 1990 who swore that some folks simply would never get HIV regardless of exposure.

No doubt, the homosexual bathhouse/dungeon scene and all that encompassed was fertile ground for the spread....and ditto for the shooting dope scene.

The homosexual activists and media sure tried hard to push it on all of us 10 years ago (I recall my first HIV test...scary) but it simply never happened except mostly for those poor women who had the misfortune to sleep with dopers or repressed homosexuals already infected.
62 posted on 04/15/2004 10:11:23 PM PDT by wardaddy (This is it. We either win and prevail or we lose and get tossed into that dustbin W mentioned!)
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To: wardaddy
Wow this is the first time I've ever heard that Magic could have gotten AIDS through gay sex.
63 posted on 04/15/2004 10:14:17 PM PDT by cyborg (Frakenfreude Radio... look out belowwwwwwwwwww!)
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To: cyborg
>>Wow this is the first time I've ever heard that Magic could have gotten AIDS through gay sex.

He got it via promiscuity...
64 posted on 04/15/2004 10:20:49 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Democrats are the real asses of evil.)
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To: MattAMiller
There is absolutely no doubt that John Holmes engaged in anal sex with men on film. The only question may be just how many times.
65 posted on 04/15/2004 10:21:12 PM PDT by weegee (Maybe Urban Outfitters should sell t-shirts that say "Voting Democrat is for Old Dead People.")
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To: marshmallow
"Actor"...

Isn't that like calling a pro-wrestler an athlete!

66 posted on 04/15/2004 10:21:30 PM PDT by wingster
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To: John H K
the real answer is that Hetero HIV was pushed because the gay crowd needed the MONEY and the GOVERNMENT to pay for the epidemic....

who the hell would care if it was only the homos that got sick and died?......

nope...they had to make us believe that it really was just as much a heterosexual disease as it was a homosexual one...

so now we spend billions and billions on this one disease, much more than heart or cancer or others maladies....

we spend all this time and billions and what do we get?.....we get young gays purposefully getting themselves infected with HIV.....

67 posted on 04/15/2004 10:35:23 PM PDT by cherry
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To: cyborg
I heard it from a stripper in Miami who "knew" him long before he went public with HIV.

I had also heard it before from some LA folks....an Aussie ironically.

It's no further substantiated though than the "I know someone who knows Tom Cruise in queer" type talk frankly.

The media wanted Magic to be straight though big time.

I know of no man personally who has gotten AIDs thru straight sex strictly without homosexuality or dope or hemophilia or surgery blood thrown in....no one....not one example here.

I hear in Africa that it is more common as such but then you get back into the already suppressed immune system probelm from malnutrition or preexisting disease.

just musing....nothing written in stone here.
68 posted on 04/15/2004 10:36:21 PM PDT by wardaddy (This is it. We either win and prevail or we lose and get tossed into that dustbin W mentioned!)
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To: wardaddy
I appreciate your musings thanks :)
69 posted on 04/15/2004 10:37:02 PM PDT by cyborg (Frakenfreude Radio... look out belowwwwwwwwwww!)
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To: weegee
he also shot dope did he not?
70 posted on 04/15/2004 10:37:38 PM PDT by wardaddy (This is it. We either win and prevail or we lose and get tossed into that dustbin W mentioned!)
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To: BurbankKarl
"Our best wishes, hopes and prayers "

prayers?

to whom?

71 posted on 04/15/2004 10:38:04 PM PDT by cherry
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To: cyborg
actually, there was a rumor that some young men in Key West....would wear shirts that said something to the effect of "I was with Magic"....

it can't be verified, so take it FWIW......

however, common sense would tell us that the two main ways a man gets HIV is thru dirty needle use or sex with other males....

BTW....Magic is a perfect example that the diagnosis of positive HIV does not automatically make you a sick and dying Aids patient...

some medical people have said that the two aren't necessarily associated, and that there has to be something besides HIV that makes a person develope full blown AIDS....

72 posted on 04/15/2004 10:46:24 PM PDT by cherry
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To: wardaddy
Again, his friends (and ex-wife) claim that he had a fear of needles (but then so "did" Lenny Bruce) and that he never shot.

John Holmes was all around a pretty despicable guy. He had a jailbait girlfriend (I think while he was still married to his wife). He chose a career in porn over his wife (she gave him an ultimatum). He was a fink ratting out competing porn film productions to the vice squad when the mere shooting of a porn film was a crime. He betrayed a millionaire drug kingpin (aiding in a glorified smash and grab robbery) and then betrayed those same "friends" who did the dirty work. His wife confirms that he arrived at her home with a bloody shirt and confessed to being at "Wonderland" when the murders were committed. The only thing in dispute is whether or not he delivered deadly blows to kill any of his druggie friends. He turned to homosexual acts in porn when he had difficulty getting other work and when he contracted AIDS he went overseas and made more porn films without notifying any of the participants.

73 posted on 04/16/2004 12:21:42 AM PDT by weegee (Maybe Urban Outfitters should sell t-shirts that say "Voting Democrat is for Old Dead People.")
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To: weegee
I found that movie hard to watch.

I remember back when all that happened. There was a big write up in Playboy or Penthouse then and it was quite graphic.

I think he infected some dark haried girl from all that as I recall.....Kim or something.
74 posted on 04/16/2004 7:28:45 AM PDT by wardaddy (This is it. We either win and prevail or we lose and get tossed into that dustbin W mentioned!)
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To: MattAMiller
And I know plumbers always get some in straight porn.

Unless they are bent over the sink fixing the faucet.

75 posted on 04/16/2004 8:15:36 AM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs (I am trying to stop an outbreak here and you are driving the monkey to the airport!)
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To: marshmallow
They should of lissened to my grandmaw when she said: "That'll learn you to wash your hands before meals!"
76 posted on 04/16/2004 8:18:09 AM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: cyborg
'Secret' Bisexuality Among Black Men Contributes to Rising Number of AIDS Cases in Black Women
Black men who secretly have sex with other men, but who also have sex with women, are creating a "particularly troublesome" situation for the black community, as HIV quickly spreads among black women, USA Today reports. Such men do not consider themselves gay or bisexual, but rather think of themselves as heterosexual men "who like to have sex with men for a change." Cornelius Baker, executive director of Washington, D.C.'s Whitman-Walker Clinic, said, "It is clearly a culture that is masculine in nature. They are closeted men who identify themselves as straight. The rest of the world identifies them as straight because they are involved in relationships with women." He added, "For many black men, (the word) gay (is synonymous) with being white, and many don't want to be labeled that." There are no hard figures on how many black men have adopted this lifestyle or live "on the down low," USA Today reports. The problem arises because many men who have sex with men "don't think themselves susceptible to HIV, believing it is an affliction of white gay men and black drug abusers," USA Today reports. Among black men, more than half of AIDS cases occur in men who have sex with other men, an increase of 31% since 1989. Only 10% of AIDS cases among black men result from heterosexual sex. Overall, blacks, who comprise 12% of the U.S. population, make up 37% of reported AIDS cases. Some health officials believe that black men who secretly have sex with other men could be one reason why black women account for nearly two- thirds of AIDS cases among all women, USA Today reports. Despite that belief, no public health agency has determined how to warn men about the risks they face, and most instead have aimed their warnings at women. Jim King, an HIV-prevention consultant, is developing a pamphlet, "Secrets: The Official Handbook of the Lifestyles of Men who Have Sex with Men," that he hopes "will pierce the veil" of secrecy of men who have sex with men (Sternberg, USA Today, 3/15).



Grants Rise as Infections Do
As the number of HIV/AIDS cases increases among minority groups, the federal government and other entities have allocated more money to a "diverse group of local organizations that provide care and other services" to minorities, the Washington Post reports. D.C. Care Consortium Director Valerie Papaya Mann said, "Finally, we're waking up. Already the infection rates are huge. We can try to respond the best way we can." In responding to an increase in HIV/AIDS among African Americans, the Congressional Black Congress in 1998 convinced former President Clinton to increase federal funding from $156 million in fiscal year 1999 to $350 million in fiscal year 2001 for organizations that provide AIDS services to black, Latino, Asian and other minority groups. With the increased funding, organizations have been able to build staff and distribute literature to advertise their services, the Post reports. For example, the Washington, D.C.-based Women's Collective "limped along" for years until statistics showed a "dramatic increase" in the number of women with HIV. The group began to receive grants, and now has an office, 10 full-time workers and 25 peer counselors. With more organizations offering services, people with HIV/AIDS have more options in choosing an organization "at which they feel comfortable," the Post reports (Gaines, Washington Post, 3/15).



Dallas Group Targets Black Men
In Dallas, the not-for-profit group Renaissance III Inc. is launching a door-to-door campaign of AIDS educators dressed in camouflage fatigues and "armed with tough-sounding brochures" to teach black men about HIV/AIDS, the Dallas Morning News reports. Renaissance III Inc. Executive Director Don Sneed said, "There was a time in the HIV prevention arena when the message was generalized, regardless of race, creed or sexual orientation. This has proven not to work, so we're taking the sniper approach as opposed to the shotgun approach." Educators distribute pamphlets -- some with the message, "African Americans are the last to know and the first to go," and others offering free tennis shoes if men get HIV tests at Renaissance III -- door-to-door in the black community, as well as at nightclubs. The effort comes five weeks after a CDC study showed "unusually high rates of HIV infection" among Dallas' gay men between ages 23 and 29. At 18%, Dallas had the highest overall infection rate among young men, compared to an average of 12% among the six cities the study covered. Douglas Shenhan of the Dallas-based AIDS Prevention Project, said, "We have work to do in all our communities, but certainly, the infection rate among African-American men was the most shocking" (Jacobson, Dallas Morning News, 3/15).




Kaiser Daily HIV/AIDS Report
77 posted on 04/16/2004 8:20:08 AM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs (I am trying to stop an outbreak here and you are driving the monkey to the airport!)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
When I read wardaddy's post about Magsic, I immediately thought of the BET special about the very same thing you just said. How sad.
78 posted on 04/16/2004 8:36:37 AM PDT by cyborg (Frakenfreude Radio... look out belowwwwwwwwwww!)
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To: BlkConserv
bump with no comment
79 posted on 04/16/2004 8:42:26 AM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: marshmallow
Darren James appeared in Skin Flick and appears to be a gay actor that crosses over to straight porn. On left.


80 posted on 04/16/2004 8:48:15 AM PDT by Helms (You make me learn by rote 6,666 verses of the Koran and I may kill you too, Allah be praised.)
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