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Dale Jr. Docked Points, Fined for Bristol Spin (NASCAR)
NASCAR.COM ^ | March 31, 2004 | uncredited

Posted on 03/31/2004 6:22:26 PM PST by alancarp

DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. -- Dale Earnhardt Jr. has been penalized 25 NASCAR Nextel Cup championship driver points, fined $10,000 and put on probation until June 1 for intentionally spinning out during Sunday's Food City 500 at Bristol (Tenn.) Motor Speedway, NASCAR officials announced Wednesday.

The Dale Earnhardt Inc. team, which fields the No. 8 Budweiser Chevrolet for Earnhardt Jr., was also penalized 25 owner points for the actions of its driver.

Earnhardt Jr. was traveling in Florida when NASCAR notified him of the penalties and was unable for comment.

"We regret what this has cost us in our pursuit of the Nextel Cup championship," team owner Teresa Earnhardt said. "In the heat of battle, a lot of things can happen and decisions can be made that come at a high cost.

"It was a mistake we've all learned from and we have to move past it. Our goal is regaining the ground we've lost and continuing our focus on winning."

Earnhardt Jr. was penalized for intentionally causing a caution condition during the race, and as a result was in violation of Section 12-4-A (Actions detrimental to stock car racing) and 12-4-N (Any driver who, in the judgment of NASCAR officials, intentionally causes or attempts to cause a caution condition by stopping or spinning out or any other action) of the NASCAR Nextel Cup Series Rule Book.

After a pit stop, Earnhardt's car had loose lug nuts on a rear wheel that caused its handling to deteriorate. Earnhardt fell back from leader Kurt Busch until he was only a few seconds from losing a lap.

Earnhardt spun in Turn 2 and radioed his crew that he had intentionally spun out to keep from losing a lap. In numerous post-race media interviews Earnhardt continued to say he had intentionally spun his car to create a caution that prevented him from losing a lap.

"The driver of the No. 8 car was quite vocal in admitting he intentionally spun out his car to cause a caution condition on the track, which is clearly prohibited in the NASCAR Rule Book," NASCAR president Mike Helton said. "We have several rules in our rule book that have been in place for quite some time to prevent someone from altering the outcome of an event.

"This was a clear-cut case of that. Actions such as this will not be tolerated. We will always react to protect the integrity of our sport."

In the 2002 running of The Winston NASCAR all-star race at Lowe's Motor Speedway, Kurt Busch spun out Robby Gordon and later said he did it intentionally because he needed a caution period.

NASCAR fined him $10,000.

Earnhardt's adjusted point total of 832 points allows him to maintain third position in the standings, 66 points behind leader Matt Kenseth. Teresa Earnhardt maintains the same differential in the owner standings to Kenseth's owner, Mark Martin.


TOPICS: Extended News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dale; junior; nascar; spin
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This penalty is less than a slap on the wrist, and the DEI team is probably having a hootin' good laugh over the whole thing.

Why? Do the math, as teammate Mikey would say: if Dale Jr. doesn't do his spinout and pits under green flag conditions, he likely loses 2 laps. If two laps down at the finish, he ends up in roughly 24th place and collects 96 championship points. If one lap down at the end, the finishes roughly 22nd and gets 102 points.

But NASCAR took away only 25 of the 135 points he collected for finishing 11th on Sunday. So by appearances, Earnhardt's team ends up with a BETTER result -- 110 points -- from the NASCAR "penalty" than he would have seen from obeying the rules and not endangering other cars with a caution (yes, he was alone in the area, but the danger comes from cars slowing unevenly around the track).

One can argue that the flurry of late cautions could have allowed Dale to gain back enough space to return to the lead lap, but (a) apparently Dale decided that cheating was going to give him a better result; and (b) with other cars ahead, earning back laps was not certain at all.

Even the fine -- $10,000 -- could have been roughly the difference in prize money from finishing lower in the field. There's little - if any - penalty even from that.

NASCAR should have used this opportunity to send a message: at least 50 (fifty) championship points (I say 75 for the recklessness), plus a $50,000 fine for a blatent cheating offense by its most popular driver and widely acknowledged star. Make it a penalty that matters.

1 posted on 03/31/2004 6:22:27 PM PST by alancarp
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To: alancarp
Dale decided that cheating was going to give him a better result

It's only cheating if you get caught. Next time he'll keep his mouth shut.

2 posted on 03/31/2004 6:26:50 PM PST by Gunslingr3
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To: alancarp; Wolfstar
I have typed thousands of words in defense of jr. in the past two years, against those who claimed jr. cheated and NASCAR turned a blind eye.

I was wrong.

I've been a fan since the seventies, my faith in the integrity of this sport has been shattered.

3 posted on 03/31/2004 6:33:11 PM PST by Vigilantcitizen
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To: alancarp
Since Nascar wants to reward good drivers and good teams, Nascar should'ver gave Dale Jr 25 more points for a most excellent spin. How many drivers can spin out at Bristol at full speed and not damage the car nor take out anyone else? Nascar is always throwing those bogus "Pierrre Debris" cautions anyway so what the hell. :^)
4 posted on 03/31/2004 6:33:26 PM PST by #3Fan (Kerry to POW-MIA activists: "You'll wish you'd never been born.". Link on my homepage.)
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To: #3Fan
Pierre (2 "r"s)
5 posted on 03/31/2004 6:34:29 PM PST by #3Fan (Kerry to POW-MIA activists: "You'll wish you'd never been born.". Link on my homepage.)
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To: alancarp
No, no, no. He should be rewarded. If not for the occasional spin-out, crash, etc., Nascar would be as boring as golf.
6 posted on 03/31/2004 6:36:37 PM PST by holymoly (fa·ce·tious 1 : joking or jesting often inappropriately)
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To: holymoly
Hey, at Bristol, spins are a dime a dozen!
7 posted on 03/31/2004 6:37:53 PM PST by alancarp (NASCAR: Where everything's made up and the points don't matter.)
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To: alancarp
The apple doesn't fall far from the tree, does it?
8 posted on 03/31/2004 6:39:36 PM PST by Doohickey ("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.”)
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To: Vigilantcitizen
I have to agree. As a life long "3" fan( still brings tears to my eyes ) I naturally follow JR. However, he needs to grow up. NASCAR has changed so much that I don't find it as interesting as in the past. It's all showbiz now.
I remember the days in the sixties when my dad would put me on his shoulders, walk a mile through a muddy parking lot to the ticket box, buy a ticket for $2.00, and watch a race that has no comparison to today.
I hear change is good.
9 posted on 03/31/2004 6:40:09 PM PST by devane617
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To: #3Fan
"Pierrre Debris" cautions

Now don't bring the French into this thread -- they're always waving White Flags. ;-)

10 posted on 03/31/2004 6:41:34 PM PST by alancarp (NASCAR: Where everything's made up and the points don't matter.)
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To: Gunslingr3
It's only cheating if you get caught.

Is it only murder if you get caught? Is it only rape if you get caught? Is it only genocide if you get caught? I think you forgot to put /sarcasm/ at the end of your comments.

11 posted on 03/31/2004 6:41:57 PM PST by adiaireton8 ("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
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To: alancarp
I saw the race. The cautions near the end clearly effected the outcome. He deserves the fine and more.
12 posted on 03/31/2004 6:42:28 PM PST by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS is a slap in the face to the USBP!)
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To: Vigilantcitizen
Craven did the same thing last year or two years ago when he parked against the wall long enough for the caution flag to wave and he immediately took off and Nascar only assessed him a one lap penalty with no points lost when Craven would've lost two laps had he pitted under green. So this penalty looks the same as that one.
13 posted on 03/31/2004 6:42:54 PM PST by #3Fan (Kerry to POW-MIA activists: "You'll wish you'd never been born.". Link on my homepage.)
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To: adiaireton8
Is it only rape if you get caught?

In Klinton's case, yes.

14 posted on 03/31/2004 6:44:26 PM PST by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS is a slap in the face to the USBP!)
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To: alancarp
Now don't bring the French into this thread -- they're always waving White Flags. ;-)

Must've been some Frenchmen at the Busch race, Mikey almost came in too early, they confused him. :^)

15 posted on 03/31/2004 6:45:05 PM PST by #3Fan (Kerry to POW-MIA activists: "You'll wish you'd never been born.". Link on my homepage.)
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To: adiaireton8
You equate spinning out to genocide?! lol
16 posted on 03/31/2004 6:46:25 PM PST by #3Fan (Kerry to POW-MIA activists: "You'll wish you'd never been born.". Link on my homepage.)
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To: Vigilantcitizen
I've been a fan since the seventies, my faith in the integrity of this sport has been shattered.

Don't be. It is a common practice by some, not all.

Jeff Gordon is another who stretches the rules of credibility, but we live with it.

17 posted on 03/31/2004 6:49:09 PM PST by Cold Heat (Viet Nam Vet's are "NOT FONDA " John Kerry!)
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To: South40
NASCAR: Spin Zone
Bill O'Reilly: No Spin Zone
18 posted on 03/31/2004 6:49:35 PM PST by alancarp (NASCAR: Where everything's made up and the points don't matter.)
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To: Doohickey
The apple doesn't fall far from the tree, does it?

Dale Sr. was the unchallenged expert at the "lucky Caution". There was many arace where his car brought out the yellow at the most opportune time. The difference, he kept his mouth shut.

However, in one famous instance Dale Sr's crew chief radioed him "we really need a caution or you are going to go a lap down" Dale's reply "Don't worry, I AM WORKING ON IT!" Maybe 2 laps later Dales front bumper tapped the rear of another car, voila, spin-out, Dale get caution he needed.

19 posted on 03/31/2004 6:50:45 PM PST by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: commish
That's racing. You do what you can. lol
20 posted on 03/31/2004 6:52:20 PM PST by #3Fan (Kerry to POW-MIA activists: "You'll wish you'd never been born.". Link on my homepage.)
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