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Mexico Rejects British Explanations on Cavers
Yahoo! News ^ | Fri, Mar 26, 2004 | Tim Gaynor (Additional reporting by Ivan Castro in Managua)

Posted on 03/26/2004 5:36:40 PM PST by AM2000

MEXICO CITY (Reuters) - A diplomatic rift between Britain and Mexico widened on Friday when President Vicente Fox (news - web sites) refused to accept London's explanations for the presence of a British military group found stuck in a Mexican cave.

Fox said Britain had not clarified questions about the activities of six cave explorers, four of them members of the military, who were plucked from a cavern late on Thursday after a week trapped by an underground flood.

"We received a reply to our request from Britain, but it is frankly unsatisfactory, we need more clarification about what this was about," Fox told a news conference in Nicaragua, where he is on an official visit.

Mexico's attorney general's office said it was investigating media reports that the cavers were scouting for deposits of potentially radioactive materials.

"We do not have any indication up to this point that indicates illicit activity," Jose Luis Santiago Vasconcelos, deputy attorney general, told a news conference.

Mexico does not allow foreign military exercises on its soil.

The Mexican government is upset it was not told in advance of the presence of the expedition, most of whom were members of the Combined Services Caving Association, an enthusiasts' group made up of active and retired British soldiers and civilians in the Ministry of Defense.

Mexican Foreign Minister Luis Ernesto Derbez spoke in strong terms.

"We are not going to tolerate on this occasion that no one explains to us exactly what their citizens were doing here," he said in comments published in the Mexican press.

RELATIONS SENSITIVE

Mexico's relations with Britain were already sensitive because of allegations that Britain helped the United States spy on Mexico's U.N. mission in the run-up to the Iraq (news - web sites) war.

After receiving medical checks at a military hospital, the cavers were brought in minibuses for questioning at a rundown immigration center in Mexico City on Friday, accompanied by trucks bearing rifle-toting members of a special police force.

British embassy sources told Reuters that all the expedition members were booked on a Friday night flight to London from Mexico City.

The trapped cavers were trapped by surging underground flood waters two days into a routine exploration trip in the Cuetzalan caves in Puebla province.

The British Embassy had originally described the cavers as being on a scientific mission and later clarified this to say they were mapping out the cave complex, one of the most extensive in the world.

Fox had asked on Wednesday for a "swift" explanation of what the foreign soldiers were doing in the caves.

Hoping to put an end to the incident, Britain said its minister for Latin America, Bill Rammell, met with Mexico's ambassador in London on Friday afternoon, and thanked him for help in getting the group out safely.

"We respect the Mexican authorities' need to clarify their immigration status," Rammell said, adding that he hoped the incident "could be resolved as quickly as possible."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: aliens; britain; cavers; conspiracy; mexico
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1 posted on 03/26/2004 5:36:40 PM PST by AM2000
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To: AM2000; Registered
Mmm...picture Bin Laden in a sombrero..
2 posted on 03/26/2004 5:39:47 PM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Fitzcarraldo
On a mule!

Drinking tequila!

While he pets his pet chihuahua!

3 posted on 03/26/2004 5:40:40 PM PST by AM2000
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To: AM2000
Mexico has alot of gall...crying about a group of people not having visas in their country when they send 1000's of illegals over the U.S. border every year and do nothing when we complain.
4 posted on 03/26/2004 5:40:44 PM PST by madison10
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To: AM2000
Mexico thinks the UK wants to invade them ... sending British military types in to reconnoiter caves? Give Mexicans a few more years and they'll all be up here in the good ol'USA ... the Brits can invade Mexico without firing a shot.
5 posted on 03/26/2004 5:43:01 PM PST by BluH2o
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To: madison10
crying about a group of people not having visas C'mon: this is not just a visa problem --- you have foreign military on your soil.

You position is not principled, you are merely irritated with the Mexicans.

6 posted on 03/26/2004 5:43:10 PM PST by TopQuark
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To: AM2000
First of all, it's got to be pretty embarassing to be members of an 'elite' military caving team, and get stuck in one. Has anybody heard of their duty status at the time the incident occurred?
7 posted on 03/26/2004 5:49:47 PM PST by Viking2002
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To: AM2000
Well...its quite obvius that someone on the British team does not understand the quaint Mescan custom of 'mordida.'

A bit of food for 'the bite' and all of this could have easily been avoided.

No other way those caves are going to get mapped in a reliable manner. And look who's getting their feathers up over this...Vicente Fox. Of course this is totally unrelated to the British assistance to the US spying on Mesco during the recent Iraq activities...totally unrelated, of course.

8 posted on 03/26/2004 5:49:50 PM PST by Khurkris (Ranger On...)
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To: AM2000
Screw Fox!
When he won the election and finally overcame the very corrupt PRI party of some 80 years that had controlled Mexican Politics.........
We, down here on the border, thought he was a "breath of fresh air" and that our neighbor to the south was "turning around" decades of corrupt politics.......
We were wrong.......
Fox is just another corrupt Despot!
9 posted on 03/26/2004 5:57:24 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Space Available for Rent or Lease by the Day, Week, or Month. Reasonable Rates. Inquire within.)
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To: AM2000
It's simple. This is where the Brits always do cave training. Undetected. It's bravado, it's esprit de corps, it's clandestine. It may not always be Mexico. The point is, to move about in a foreign country, do the maneuvers, and get out. It's like counting coup. Too bad about the mishap.
11 posted on 03/26/2004 6:08:48 PM PST by Migraine (my grain is pretty straight today)
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To: Salve Regina
I think if we found members of a foriegn military possibly conducting exercises on our soil, we'd be pissed too.
12 posted on 03/26/2004 6:11:36 PM PST by AM2000
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To: AM2000
No kiddin !
13 posted on 03/26/2004 6:31:18 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: madison10
Yep, you're right.

PS, don't answer the TROLL on the thread ;)

They're only here to BAIT us and get us banned. :)
14 posted on 03/26/2004 6:47:53 PM PST by I_Love_My_Husband (Borders, Language, Culture, Straights - now more than ever)
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To: gubamyster
please ping list
15 posted on 03/26/2004 6:48:57 PM PST by I_Love_My_Husband (Borders, Language, Culture, Straights - now more than ever)
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To: madison10
"We are not going to tolerate on this occasion that no one explains to us exactly what their citizens were doing here," he said in comments published in the Mexican press.

Hey Mexico and Fox! Can you take YOUR citizens home? You know the ones that come here every day and have INVADED California, Arizona and Texas????

Do it NOW!

We should f'n detain every single one of their "people" in response to this.

16 posted on 03/26/2004 6:52:04 PM PST by I_Love_My_Husband (Borders, Language, Culture, Straights - now more than ever)
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To: Sabertooth
ping
17 posted on 03/26/2004 6:52:22 PM PST by I_Love_My_Husband (Borders, Language, Culture, Straights - now more than ever)
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To: TopQuark
C'mon: this is not just a visa problem --- you have foreign military on your soil.

You position is not principled, you are merely irritated with the Mexicans.

C'mon yourself, 4 guys on vacation is not a military presence. And mexico has a long history on being tough, even brutal to their illegal immigrants.

18 posted on 03/26/2004 7:40:34 PM PST by Sci Fi Guy
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To: Salve Regina
You could fastforward another 100 years and Mexico would still have its head up its a**.
19 posted on 03/26/2004 9:30:32 PM PST by beaversmom (Michael Medved has the Greatest radio show on GOD's Green Earth)
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To: beaversmom
one has to wonder if mexico will ever grow up
20 posted on 03/26/2004 9:35:18 PM PST by rrrod
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