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John F-ing Flip-Flop on Death Penalty (RUSH LIMBAUGH)
RUSH LIMBAUGH ^ | 2/4/04 | RUSH LIMBAUGH

Posted on 03/24/2004 5:04:40 AM PST by GailA

John F-ing Flip-Flop on Death Penalty

February 4, 2004

In the audio link below, I rolled you John Kerry on Larry King Alive. Guest host Jeff Greenfield asked Kerry if his positions on issues such as opposing the death penalty for terrorists mean "he's not going to make any inroads into the traditional blue-collar, more conservative Democratic base." Kerry responded, "I am supportive of the death penalty for terrorists," then claimed that the Bush people "know it, and they'll try to distort it, but it is a fact."

Note his words: "I am supportive of the death penalty." The Weekly Standard reports that the senator's stand on the death penalty has "evolved." Quote: "For years, Kerry opposed capital punishment in all cases. In 1996, during a debate with Massachusetts governor William Weld, who was challenging Kerry for his Senate seat, Kerry said Weld's support of capital punishment for terrorists 'would amount to a terrorist protection policy.' Kerry's position, on the other hand, 'would put them in jail.'"

In 2002, Kerry flipped again, telling Tim Russert: "I am for the death penalty for terrorists because terrorists have declared war on your country," but cautioned he opposed it "in the criminal justice system because I think it's applied unfairly." Time magazine reports: "'John Kerry never met a side of an issue he didn't like,' says Dean spokesman Jay Carson. And it is true that some positions have changed...." Expect Kerry to keep changing his positions, and then say, "They know I'm for this." That's what he's going to have to do, because he cannot stand on his voting record.

Kerry's going to have to come up with a slithery way to explain some of those votes, and he'll do so by saying he's "changed his mind." He'll probably say, "Well, since I'm now running for president, I'm not just a senator, and I have to look at these things a little differently. They know what I'm thinking out there. They know what I'm going to do. They're going to try to distort this." This is going to be his typical modus operandi. You wait and see.

Listen to Rush...

(...roll, and expose as a contradiction, Kerry's latest death penalty position)


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2004; crime; deathpenalty; flipflop; hanoijohn; issues; kerry; kerryrecord; obl; rush; terrorist; wto
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hanoi john supports moratorium on death penalty at federal level

KING: I've done a lot of shows recently dealing with the death of little children. A person who kills a 5-year-old should live?

KERRY: Larry, my instinct is to want to strangle that person with my own hands. I understand the instincts, I really do. I prosecuted people. I know what the feeling of the families is and everybody else.

But we have 111 people who have been now released from death row -- death row, let alone the rest of the prison system -- because of DNA evidence that showed they didn't commit the crime of which they were convicted.

After spending -- I myself worked to get a person out of jail who had been there for 15 years for a murder that person did not commit.

Now, our system has made mistakes, and it's been applied in a way that I think is wrong.

Secondly, I don't believe that, in the end, you advance the, sort of, level of your justice and the system of your civility as a nation -- and many other nations in the world, most of the other nations in the world, have adopted that idea, that the state should not engage in killing.

(APPLAUSE)

Because they have very bad memories of what happens when the state engages in killing.

Washpost/king interview

1 posted on 03/24/2004 5:04:40 AM PST by GailA
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To: GailA
MY RANT

Hanoi John has flipped flopped on every issue of importance, last year he was against the death penalty for terrorist who kill Americans. Now he's for it.

One thing he had been steadfast on is his stance on the death penalty. He says he supports a moratorium on the death penalty at the federal level. Which means there would soon be a national moratorium on the death penalty, because of the liberal social engineering judges and Supreme Court Justices he'd appoint.

Hanoi John says he's now for the death penalty for terrorist, but he's declaring a moratorium on the death penalty at the federal level thus negating it's use against terrorist. This is much like his vote on the $87 billion that would have provided body armor for our troops. "I actually did vote for the $87 billion before I voted against it," Kerry says. Straddling the fence once again to gain a vote.

He is OPPOSED to the death penalty for non-terrorist who would murder an American child, even a 5-year-old.

As the mother of a murdered 16 year old son, Jeremy Peter Flachbart, who was brutally murdered by a sociopath wanting to see what it felt like to kill, I am alarmed and APPALLED by this man who would be our president soft attitude toward crime, who would eliminate a form of punishment for a horrific crime. Jeremy

He says HE FEELS MY PAIN.

Horse Feathers! he can't feel my pain, he hasn't had a child brutally murdered. He only was a junior prosecutor from 1976-78. He didn't loose a Loved One to a sociopathic killer.

There is a hole in my heart and in my life created by the brutal murder of my beloved child.

To me he is soft on crime just as Mike Dukakis who furloughed that brutal killer Willie Horton was.

Presumptive Democratic Presidential nominee Kerry was irresponsible in blindly accepting the fraudulent claim that 111 innocents have been released from death row. As has been repeatedly proven, this innocent claim is a fraud pushed by the anti death penalty movement.

This does not speak well to his ability to be responsible on major policy issues.

"Kerry say 111 were found innocent from death row via DNA. If so, that is even more absurd. It is 12." But, for solid evidence of actual innocence, my evidence and that from others indicates its from 17-30. I use 30 to be on the safe side." Dudley Sharp, former Resource Director with Justice For All.

Sincerely,
In memory of Jeremy Peter Flachbart

Gail Keasling
Millington, TN

2 posted on 03/24/2004 5:07:56 AM PST by GailA (Kerry I'm for the death penalty for terrorist, but I'll declare a moratorium on the death penalty)
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To: GailA
Wasn't Jeff Greenfield part of the liberal media troupe which went to Al Franken's New York apartment to strategize with only 2 weeks before the primaries? This sounds very contrived and rehearsed, which means Kerry and Greenfield are lying.
3 posted on 03/24/2004 5:19:30 AM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: GailA
Flip Flop, I'll say whatever you want to hear because I have no reaa princples, bump.
4 posted on 03/24/2004 5:23:33 AM PST by SAMWolf (Your sacred cow is my next Double Whopper with cheese.)
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To: GailA
Great rant GailA.
5 posted on 03/24/2004 5:24:30 AM PST by SAMWolf (Your sacred cow is my next Double Whopper with cheese.)
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To: KC_Conspirator
Yes, Greenfield was in fact one of those intrepid reporters, LOL
6 posted on 03/24/2004 5:39:34 AM PST by Cosmo (Let's get to the point: Democrats are A**holes!)
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To: GailA
Horse Feathers!

You are being too kind.

You are fighting the good fight Gail and I admire you for your perseverance.

7 posted on 03/24/2004 5:43:51 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: GailA
Good post.

John Kerry only cares about gaining political power, and that's it.
He'll say to voters what he thinks they want to hear at the time.


8 posted on 03/24/2004 5:57:29 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (The Democrats say they believe in CHOICE. I have chosen to vote STRAIGHT TICKET GOP for years !!)
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To: GailA

9 posted on 03/24/2004 5:58:26 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (The Democrats say they believe in CHOICE. I have chosen to vote STRAIGHT TICKET GOP for years !!)
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To: MeekOneGOP
That's a good one Meekie.
10 posted on 03/24/2004 6:06:39 AM PST by GailA (Kerry I'm for the death penalty for terrorist, but I'll declare a moratorium on the death penalty)
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To: GailA
Gail, my heart goes out to you. God loves us, but people are just darn evil.

I have always been convinced "what comes around, goes around". I hopw this deviant doesn't kill any other innocents (unfortunately that looks quite possible), but I know he is going to be punished in his life for every bit of pain he has inflicted on you and your family.

11 posted on 03/24/2004 6:15:09 AM PST by I still care (The mills of God grind slowly, yet they grind exceedingly small.)
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To: GailA
By the way, Hannity and Colmes showed a "Rush rant" last night at the MRC. It was SOOOO good. Colmes looked perplexed.

Rush talked about how liberals are happy when bad things happen to America. Then he quoted Tom Daschle saying we pick up a house seat every time the stock market goes down.

Alan didn't think liberals thought that way. That poor man. He's living in a rarified atmosphere.

The day after Thanksgiving, on DU they were encouraging people to boycott the stores, to drive down the sales figures. Alan, you need to wake up!!
12 posted on 03/24/2004 6:18:52 AM PST by I still care (The mills of God grind slowly, yet they grind exceedingly small.)
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To: KC_Conspirator
THREAD
13 posted on 03/24/2004 6:34:06 AM PST by GailA (Kerry I'm for the death penalty for terrorist, but I'll declare a moratorium on the death penalty)
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To: GailA
First, I am truly sorry for the tragic loss of your son. I am whole heartedly for the death penalty, I share your sentiments. I think it is a shame that none of us can see how another person really feels, I believe it would change many perceptions on many subjects.

John Kerry, If elected will finish the job Bill Clinton started, and that is to completely destroy America. We may always be here as a Nation, but not the same Nation we have always been. I hope that if no one else hears a word I say with full understanding, or reads another thing I write with full understanding I hope they will fully understand this; A vote for John Kerry is a vote for communism. Kerry does not care for you, me or anyone else but himself. Kerry only wants to control us, take our hard earned money, support the killing of innocent children by the millions before they are born, pervert the meaning of marriage, and remove the last vestiges of moral foundation that are still in place.

VOTE!!! To keep America safe, our children safe, and our way of life safe, VOTE!!!!!!

May God find it in His heart to forgive our personal and National sins, and continue to bless America as he has no other Nation on Earth.
14 posted on 03/24/2004 8:45:54 AM PST by ChevyZ28 (We can make the plans of our heart, but the final out come is in God's hands.)
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To: I still care
In time, I think Colmes will be Hannitized. The daily bombardment of truth will win someday.
15 posted on 03/24/2004 8:55:17 AM PST by ChevyZ28 (We can make the plans of our heart, but the final out come is in God's hands.)
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To: ChevyZ28
Colmes has drunk the liberal koolaid so long, he can't change. None is so blind, as those who WILL not see. Colmes is one of these.
16 posted on 03/24/2004 11:07:14 AM PST by GailA (Kerry I'm for the death penalty for terrorist, but I'll declare a moratorium on the death penalty)
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To: GailA
You may be right.
17 posted on 03/24/2004 12:49:15 PM PST by ChevyZ28 (We can make the plans of our heart, but the final out come is in God's hands.)
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To: GailA; SAMWolf; snippy_about_it; MeekOneGOP; Grampa Dave; BOBTHENAILER; potlatch; onyx; ntnychik; ..
Kerry says he's against the death penalty because "most of the other nations in the world, have adopted that idea, that the state should not engage in killing."

So, Senator the F in your name stands for Foreign, as in John Foreign-anything-is-better-than-American Kerry. Got it.

Whereas, Bush is Texan, and in Texas they barbecue pigs.

Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether this nation shall be perverted by the invertebrates of Kerryoptera.

I know not what course others may take, but I'm voting Hell No.

Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness--we are endowed these by our Creator--not some pretentious, patronizing, efffete elitist ass.

Imagine, this putz is playacting for a propagandist butt buddy that he would strangle the murderer with his own hands.

As if. As if he ever harmed anything tougher than the Vietnamese mother holding her child, or the wounded enemy combatant he assassinated.

We prefer a leader who uses deeds not words, who has gone after those who threaten us and killed or captured them.

Who believes in the death penalty--if the perps make it that far.

18 posted on 03/24/2004 11:48:12 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo
You are the absolute best Phil. No one says it better than you.
19 posted on 03/25/2004 5:14:08 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: snippy_about_it; PhilDragoo
You are the absolute best Phil. No one says it better than you.

A big AMEN to that ! ...


20 posted on 03/25/2004 6:43:06 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (The Democrats say they believe in CHOICE. I have chosen to vote STRAIGHT TICKET GOP for years !!)
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