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Idiot culture?

You would think that someone talking on Idiot Culture would know that Bush, so far, is the ONLY president of this century.

1 posted on 03/19/2004 5:41:05 AM PST by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
His comments were mainly about the media. and he is correct in part.

Pres. Bush IS a radical departure from Clinton. So such a "radical" change from pandering,etc. is not bad after all.


2 posted on 03/19/2004 5:45:13 AM PST by Diogenesis (If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us)
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"Let's move beyond the absurd name-calling and sound bite journalism," he said. "It is our job ... to force a real debate."

Well then, Mr. Bernstein, why did you have absurd name calling and sound-bite journalism in your speech?

3 posted on 03/19/2004 5:45:17 AM PST by Coop ("Hero" is the last four-letter word I'd use to describe John Kerry)
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Well, actually, Clinton was President for the first 19 days of this century.
4 posted on 03/19/2004 5:45:33 AM PST by Charles Henrickson (Remember that whole "Building a bridge" thing?)
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This is just another example of an old-time elitist media guy. He whines that we are going to "hell in a handbasket" because we the people now have more news sources and are no longer restricted to opinions from him and his cocktail party media crowd. The Times They Are A-Changin' Carl. Get out of the way.
5 posted on 03/19/2004 5:48:40 AM PST by rhombus
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Yep, the belief in the United States as a sovereign entity with a capitalist economic system defending its own national interests sure is radical, ain't it?
6 posted on 03/19/2004 5:50:29 AM PST by Morgan's Raider
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"And when Deep Throat dies, he said, "We will reveal him.""


Carl Berstein will forever be known as DEEP THROAT!


7 posted on 03/19/2004 5:50:36 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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Bernstein said Bush "is radical in every degree," from a favoritism of the wealthy to a pre-emptive foreign policy to a lack of concern for civil rights.

"He certainly seems more ideological than any of our presidents," Bernstein said.

Radical. Ideological. Typical liberal tripe.

Even so, Bernstein said he hopes a genuine debate can take place this year about the future of the country, rather than the petty quarrels and meaningless accusations that so often dominate campaign coverage.

Yeah, wouldn't want them calling each other radical ideologues now, would we? Let's crawl out of the gutter already.

"Let's move beyond the absurd name-calling and sound bite journalism," he said. "It is our job ... to force a real debate."

You first. Go get em, tough guy.

8 posted on 03/19/2004 5:51:33 AM PST by Seth1 (Stop plate tectonics!!!)
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Bernstein is a dope. He should stick to drawing those cute bears.
9 posted on 03/19/2004 5:54:41 AM PST by zook
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And when Deep Throat dies, he said, "We will reveal him."

Ugly truth. There never WAS any "Deep Throat". Before there was a Jayson Blair, there were Woodward and Bernstein. They just haven't been found out yet. Gossip, sensationalism and manufactured controversy did not appear in the news overnight. There has been a segment of journalism that has promoted and endorsed this approach since the first chronicles of current affairs began to be kept by mankind. Since about the time of the start of the Cold War, it has been a part of the culture of the New York Times, Washington Post, Time, Newsweek, the LA Times, and all the lesser lights of liberal journalism, and only because of vast amounts of moral capital they have squandered to cover their bias, have they kept their dirty little secrets.

10 posted on 03/19/2004 5:56:46 AM PST by alloysteel
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"Bernstein ... calling President Bush "the most radical president of my lifetime and perhaps in the century."

"Bernstein said Bush "is radical in every degree,"

"Let's move beyond the absurd name-calling and sound bite journalism," he said. "


So the name caller wants to move beyond name calling. Typical lefty hypocracy. Not to calling someone who stands for traditional values a radical.

11 posted on 03/19/2004 5:58:34 AM PST by BadAndy (Liberalism is a mental illness.)
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Nora Ephron's stormy marriage with Washington Post reporter Carl Bernstein provided grist for her book, Heartburn, which she adapted into a 1986 film.

The movie is about a woman who chooses love and family over her successful career as a magazine writer but her playboy husband, a newspaper columnist, can't give up his cheating ways, even during her pregnancy.

12 posted on 03/19/2004 5:59:46 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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When was the last time we lost 3,000 people on our own soil Mr. POS Bernstein?
13 posted on 03/19/2004 6:07:00 AM PST by conservativecorner
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A case of the pot calling the kettle black. Berstein has been living on his plot with Woodward all these years. It is as phony as Kerry support from foreign leaders.

Not too suprising really since he was working for the Washington Compost at the time.
16 posted on 03/19/2004 6:15:09 AM PST by hgro
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President Bush is RAD, baby!

Yeahhhh!

4.
More.
Years.
19 posted on 03/19/2004 6:41:22 AM PST by Enduring Freedom (Misery Index Now At Lower End Of Scale - Thank You, President Bush!)
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For the Bernsteins of the world, normal = radical.

20 posted on 03/19/2004 6:41:33 AM PST by cyncooper
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People like Bernstein and other left wingers who make these statements only help Bush.
25 posted on 03/19/2004 7:17:37 AM PST by international american (Support our troops!! Send Kerry back to Boston!!!!)
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From - AUTHORITARIANISM IS LEFTIST, NOT RIGHTIST
By: John J. Ray



"The theory that would seem to have the widest explanatory power is that Leftist advocacy serves ego needs. It is submitted here that the major psychological reason why Leftists so zealously criticize the existing order and advocate change is in order to feed a pressing need for self-inflation and ego-boosting -- and ultimately for power, the greatest ego boost of all.

"They need public attention; they need to demonstrate outrage; they need to feel wiser and kinder and more righteous than most of their fellow man. They fancy for themselves the heroic role of David versus Goliath. They need to show that they are in the small club of the virtuous and the wise so that they can nobly instruct and order about their less wise and less virtuous fellow-citizens.

"Their need is a pressing need for attention, for self-advertisement and self-promotion -- generally in the absence of any real claims in that direction. They are people who need to feel important and who are aggrieved at their lack of recognition and power. One is tempted to hypothesize that, when they were children, their mothers didn't look when they said, "Mummy, look at me".

26 posted on 03/19/2004 7:30:31 AM PST by sergeantdave (Gen. Custer wore an Arrowsmith shirt to his last property owner convention.)
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That type of news panders to the public and insults their intelligence, ignoring the context of real life, he said. Good journalism, Bernstein said, "should challenge people, not just mindlessly amuse them."

I think he has a different idea of challenging people than we do....

He said the modern press lacks true leadership, citing such examples as AOL Time Warner and mogul Rupert Murdoch as media owners that have increasingly abandoned the principles of meaningful reporting. "Their interest in truth is secondary to their interest in huge profits," Bernstein said.

It depends on what the meaning of "truth" is, doesn't it? Murdoch has made huge profits by courting (Bernstein would probably say "pandering to") conservatives. In fact, Murdoch's critics say that he's put his politics above profits. You can't have it both ways.

28 posted on 03/19/2004 8:08:19 AM PST by NYCVirago
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If President Bush is the most radical president in the 20th Century, then "bring it on." Let's have more radicalism...he has the fortitude to stand up to the "idiots" of the world - French, Germans, etc.
31 posted on 03/19/2004 8:23:38 AM PST by LiteKeeper
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And when Deep Throat dies, he said, "We will reveal him."

...when, conveniently, that person won't be able to confirm or deny it...

Reminds me of Kerry's "world leaders" who have endorsed his candidacy, but whose identity is none of your business.

32 posted on 03/19/2004 8:27:56 AM PST by gg188
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