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No anti-Semitic fallout from 'Passion' - made folks re-examine views, less willing to cast blame
SFgate ^
| 3/18/04
| Don Lattin
Posted on 03/18/2004 3:56:44 PM PST by Libloather
Edited on 04/13/2004 2:46:07 AM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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Despite fears that it could promote anti-Semitism, the new film by Mel Gibson "The Passion of the Christ'' may have made Americans less likely to blame Jews for the death of Jesus, according to a new survey.
Among those interviewed for a new national poll who had seen or knew about the film, 83 percent said the movie and its surrounding controversy had no effect on the extent they believe contemporary Jews are responsible for the death of Jesus. Only 2 percent said the movie made them more likely to blame Jews, while 9 percent said the movie made them less likely to hold Jews responsible.
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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antisemitic; antisemitism; blame; cast; fallout; film; less; no; passion; people; reexamine; thepassion; views; willing
How bout dat...
To: Libloather
This can't be. Why, Bill Clinton distinctly remembers the KKK burning synagogues after free screenings of The Passion back in Arkansas when he was a boy.
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posted on
03/18/2004 4:00:17 PM PST
by
Argus
(If you favor surrender to terrorism, vote Democrat.)
To: Libloather
Jewish children, he said, have been called "Christ- killers'' on school campuses. Yeah, in Germany . . . a long time ago. Meanwhile, while these lib groups try to pin a bad rap on faithful Christians, the more secularist minds over at A.N.S.W.E.R. are organizing mass rallies this coming Saturday to encourage Palestians to drive Israel into the sea. Will the American Dem-libs of Jewish descent take offense at this? More likely, they'll be cheering the effort on.
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posted on
03/18/2004 4:02:52 PM PST
by
madprof98
To: Libloather
As a Jew I despise the fat scumbag named Abe Foxman, who has done more to divide Jews and Christians with his hate crime than any other single act in my memory...and all for his own enrichment (and that of his $6 million per year endowment). This Socialist slob does not represent American Jews, and is not even a religious Jew himself, but a mere JINO, as is Krauthammer and Safire, who have also disgraced themselves with their denouncements of the Gospel. Foxman's anti-Christian bigotry is despicable, and one hopes this will curtail his attempt to become some kind of Jewish Jesse Jackson. Real Jews respect the faith of our Christian friends, and deplore attempts to divide us. At a time when both of our faiths are under severe attack from the far Left and Islam, we must refuse to allow ourselves to become divided.
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posted on
03/18/2004 4:04:24 PM PST
by
montag813
To: Libloather
Abe Foxman and the ADL will certainly issue immediate and contrite apologies for the slurs they have cast at Gibson and at Christians in general?
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posted on
03/18/2004 4:04:43 PM PST
by
per loin
(Ultra Secret News: ADL pays $12M for defaming Colorado couple.)
To: montag813
As neither a Jew, Christian, nor Islamic, I agree with you both on the vileness of Foxman and the dangers from the left and from Islam.
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posted on
03/18/2004 4:08:33 PM PST
by
per loin
(Ultra Secret News: ADL pays $12M for defaming Colorado couple.)
To: montag813
...a mere JINO...That's a new one. My FR online education never really ends...
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posted on
03/18/2004 4:09:32 PM PST
by
Libloather
(If you can't take a joke, fegitaboutit...)
To: Libloather
What If Jesus Had Come
To Other Times And Places?
Ever since the Mel Gibson blockbuster The Passion was first announced, there has been a great to-do about it being anti-Semitic. Which is a crock. However, the stark fact is that Jesus was put to death after a verdict of guilty of the crime of blasphemy and sentence of death was handed down by a quorum of the supreme religious body in Israel at the time, the Sanhedrin.
Pilate rubber-stamped the verdict and sentence because he feared these religious zealots would start a riot, which would make the Emperor in Rome look upon him with acute disfavor. The actual execution was carried out by a detail of Roman legionaries, as is documented by the Bible.
Therefore, the responsibility for Jesus execution by crucifixion must be shared equally between Jews and Gentiles. So what if the Sanhedrin was Jewish? MankindJew, Gentile, whateveris the same depraved and evil scum we have always been since the Fall of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. Indeed, as one Bible scholar has said, if God does not judge the United States for its descent into spiritual wickedness, He will have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah.
Therefore, I wish to offer up a rather likely scenario about what would have happened had Jesus chosen other times and places to come to Earth.
Spain:
Fathers Loyola and Torquemada would have burned Him at the stake for heresy and blasphemy for proclaiming Himself to be the Son of God, forgiving sins, and other assorted reasons.
England:
Oliver Cromwell would have hanged or burned Him at the stake on heresy and blasphemy charges as well. And He would have suffered a similar fate at the hands of the kingbefore and after Cromwells time.
The United States:
Had He appeared here in pre-Revolutionary War America, I am confident the good and godly Puritans would have hanged Him or burned Him at the stake. Cotton and Increase Mather would have promptly declared Him guilty of blasphemy and sentenced Him to death. And so would any other judge at the time. Recall how the courts conducted themselves at places such as Salem, Massachusetts?
If Jesus had appeared in the USA during 1950, Senator Joseph McCarthy would have hauled Him before his committee and accused Him of being a notorious Communist for advocating such radical notions as selling all you have and giving your money to the poor.
J. Edgar Hoover would have tapped every telephone in the country and sent his agents on black-bag job break-ins to try and find out what He was up to; and when those didnt work, hed have paid Judas Iscariot considerably more than thirty pieces of silver to set Him up for a COINTELPRO sting operation.
Had He appeared in the USA in 1993, I have little doubt that the ATF and the FBI under command of Janet Reno would have killed Himeither with a hail of bullets or by firewe all remember how Waco turned out, dont we? If thats how threatened Reno and Co. felt by the existence of a false messiah, just imagine how far up the wall she and her jackbooted stormtrooper thugs have gone when dealing with the real McCoy. I can just hear the justifications now
He was the leader of a heavily-armed cult! He told his followers to sell their clothes to buy paramilitary assault weapons! (Luke 22:36)
He was undoubtedly a child molester! He told his followers to suffer the little children to come unto Me. And we had intelligence that he was slapping the babies! We had to attack! (Spare the rod and spoil the child.)
The only way we could save the children was to burn down the buildings with them in it! (Remember that old Nam-era sayingThe only way we could save the village was to destroy it.?)
http://lizmichael.com/renocami.gif No; the death of Jesus at the hands of venal men concerned more for their own power, prestige, prerogatives and perquisites than anything elseincluding such trivialities as truth and justicecannot be blamed on just one ethnic group or sect; we must all bear equal responsibility for putting Him to death.
And why did He come, knowing full well such would be His fateno matter what era and locale He would come to? Because He loved us. All of us. Jew, Gentile, Greek, whatever and whoever. How can that be anti-anything?
The End
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posted on
03/18/2004 4:22:04 PM PST
by
Marc85902
To: per loin
"Abe Foxman and the ADL will certainly issue immediate and contrite apologies for the slurs they have cast at Gibson and at Christians in general?" SUUUURRREEEE they will!!!!! And all of Satan's imps and devils will be building snowmen and having snowball fights when that happens.
To: montag813
Amen to that!!! your so right on! May we have Peace on Earth and May G-d Bless Israel and our American Soldiers that are fighting for America including (Foxman) so we might live in a free Judeo Christian Society.
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posted on
03/18/2004 4:25:12 PM PST
by
missyme
To: Marc85902
Fathers Loyola and Torquemada would have burned Him at the stake...According to my Jesuit professor, Ignatius Loyola had to leave Spain so the Inquisition wouldn't come after him.
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posted on
03/18/2004 4:34:30 PM PST
by
pbear8
(no complaining...Thanks be to God)
To: Libloather
I'm not surprised by America's reaction to the movie. We are a melting-pot nation. I worry about Europe, and it has nothing to do with the movie. Anti-semitism has been on the rise for a while, and I don't think it's gonna get better. You see they already have a rich history of picking on the Jews, and making them scapegoats for every ill. By the way, I'm Christan and I support Israel 110%!!
To: per loin
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posted on
03/18/2004 4:50:48 PM PST
by
Fiddlstix
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To: Libloather
Jewish children, he said, have been called "Christ- killers'' on school campuses. I'd bet a months pay that that never happened. Not in this country and not this year. I say it's a damnable lie.
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posted on
03/18/2004 5:29:14 PM PST
by
pgkdan
To: montag813
At a time when both of our faiths are under severe attack from the far Left and Islam, we must refuse to allow ourselves to become divided. This Catholic says Amen!
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posted on
03/18/2004 5:30:32 PM PST
by
pgkdan
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