[American_Centurion]

The SISU looks good, and is adequately armored, but overall I give the vehicle a thumbs down.

I worked with Swedes in Macedonia, we sometimes patrolled in the SISUs, they do not have the mobility nor visibility required for urban patrols.

The Hummers are for the most part fine, the troops patroling in known danger areas are in the armored ones, or in tracks. The soft-top Hummers are still needed for logistics, maintenance, and similar missions. The SISU isn't capable of properly carrying those out.

Yes, we have soldiers getting injured and killed, but for the most part what we are doing is working fine.

[blanknoone]

No doubt the soft skin hummers are great...but for a different mission. Uparmoring them is not the answer. We have a need for an armored patrol vehicle, and we should build one, not try to turn the humvee into something it is not and never will be. The SISU is not the right vehicle either, but its COTS development process does point the way to a reliable patrol vehicle.

We need an armored patrol vehicle for peacekeeping ops, and we should build one not strap steel onto souped up jeeps. Indeed, imagine a vehicle a little smaller than a SISU, with bulletproof glass observation windows on the side, or a bulletproof lexan bubble on top.

The SISU's limited off road mobility comes from the same place as its cheap sticker price...its engine, suspension and transmission is basically a commercial bus. It wasn't designed for off road...and urban patrol vehicles aren't either.