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Airport expansion takes flight
Daytona Beach News Journal ^ | 031404 | AARON LONDON

Posted on 03/14/2004 7:59:45 AM PST by Archangelsk

Airport expansion takes flight

By AARON LONDON Staff Writer

Last update: 14 March 2004

BUNNELL -- The sky might be the limit for pilots taking off from the Flagler County Airport, but county officials draw the line at forcing people to give up their property to expand the facility.

County commissioners reviewed an updated master plan last week for the airport that included five scenarios for growth.

In the end, commissioners decided to pursue the most ambitious option, a $28.4 million, 20-year plan to move the airport's main runway 400 feet south and lengthen it by 2,000 feet, begin construction of a control tower and add instrument landing approach technology to the airport.

The new runway would be 7,000 feet, which is required by many insurance carriers covering corporate jets. While supporting the plans, commissioners insisted that the impact of expansion on adjacent residential neighborhoods be minimized as much as possible.

Airport Manager Jim Jarrell said commissioners support the plan as long as it doesn't mean having to force residents from their homes.

Jarrell said eminent domain proceedings to acquire off airport land will not be considered "now or in the future."

Even with those protections, residents close to the airport still have some concerns.

For the past six years, Richard Kennedy has spent his winters in a house on Zebrawood Court in Palm Coast. While he said the warm Florida sun has its advantages, living close to the Flagler County Airport has not been a high point of living in the Sunshine State.

"Through the weekdays, it's all planes, in and out all the time, making a lot of noise," he said. "I didn't even realize the airport was over there."

Built in the 1940s as a training facility, the county airport has seen a big jump in operations -- defined as take-offs and landings -- in the past 10 years. In 1990, the airport recorded more than 155,000 total operations. In 2001 the number increased to more than 202,000.

Much of the airport activity comes from Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University, which is building a headquarters for its Commercial Airline Pilot Training program at the airport.

Seventy percent of take offs and landings at the facility are by student pilots from the university, Jarrell said.

The master plan update is the first since 1997. The Federal Aviation Administration requires general aviation airports to update plans every five to 10 years. Local costs of carrying out the updated plan would be $710,000, representing 2.5 percent of the total and would come from airport operations, not local taxes. Ninety-five percent of the cost would be paid by the FAA, with the Florida Department of Transportation kicking in another 2.5 percent.

For Commissioner Pat McGuire, the additional safeguards for residential neighborhoods was a key aspect of the plan.

He said he is sympathetic to noise concerns and other complaints, but that the airport has been there long before residential neighborhoods were built.

"If you move next to an airport and you complain, shame on you," he said. "If you move next to an airport that expands to you, shame on the airport."



TOPICS: Business/Economy; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: airport; flagler; runway; x47
This is going to be a boon to the Flagler county economy. It's too bad Daytona Beach doesn't have the foresight to capitalize on an existing Class C airport.
1 posted on 03/14/2004 7:59:45 AM PST by Archangelsk
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To: Aeronaut; Criminal Number 18F
Please ping the usual throttle quadrant manipulators.
2 posted on 03/14/2004 8:00:34 AM PST by Archangelsk (Shall we have a king?)
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To: Archangelsk
re: Much of the airport activity comes from Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University, which is building a headquarters for its Commercial Airline Pilot Training program at the airport.)))

Just what we need--lots more unemployable pilots. Sometime these baby flyers might notice who's really taking advantage of them...

3 posted on 03/14/2004 8:01:44 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Archangelsk

The airport in question the new/expanded runway would be 11 - 29. In the picture it's the one that runs from SE to NW. As you can see, there is a non-precision approach already in place on 6 - 24 (GPS-A) and I imagine, given the 20-year time frame, that a precision approach will end up being a GPS/WAAS/LAAS affair.

4 posted on 03/14/2004 8:05:29 AM PST by Archangelsk (Shall we have a king?)
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To: Mamzelle
Your information is five minutes ago. Regionals are hiring right now and for the new equipment (CRJ and ERJ series). Also there are a number of other things happening in Flagler that are boding well for aviation.
5 posted on 03/14/2004 8:07:00 AM PST by Archangelsk (Shall we have a king?)
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To: Archangelsk
Just to clarify, the runway that they want to lengthen is the one at the bottom of the picture.
6 posted on 03/14/2004 8:08:30 AM PST by Archangelsk (Shall we have a king?)
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To: Archangelsk
What's a year's tuition these days at that school?

Are you figuring flying teachers in with that wave of new jobs?

7 posted on 03/14/2004 8:09:49 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Tijeras_Slim; FireTrack; Pukin Dog; citabria; B Knotts; kilowhskey; cyphergirl; Wright is right!; ..

8 posted on 03/14/2004 8:18:31 AM PST by Aeronaut (The ACLU Doesn't hate all religion, just Christianity!)
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To: Mamzelle
A lot, and yes I am. Are you in the business or no?
9 posted on 03/14/2004 8:26:25 AM PST by Archangelsk (Shall we have a king?)
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To: Archangelsk
"Through the weekdays, it's all planes, in and out all the time, making a lot of noise," he said. "I didn't even realize the airport was over there."
The world is full of morons.

\ "If you move next to an airport and you complain, shame on you," he said. "If you move next to an airport that expands to you, shame on the airport."
A distinction without a difference.
Airports, for some reason, never plan for the certainty that they will expand, and morons moving next to one never see the obvious either. Common sense would dictate that both must be aware od the other and assume that both will expand.
The real tragedy is when residential development is allowed to expand into either the approach or the takeoff end of existing airports.

10 posted on 03/14/2004 8:52:01 AM PST by Publius6961 (50.3% of Californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks (subject to a final count).)
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To: Archangelsk
Flagler County is already growing at a very fast pace. It's a very nice area.
11 posted on 03/14/2004 9:01:32 AM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace (I'm from the government and I'm here to help.)
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
Yes it is. Hi-Jackers is a first class restaurant at the airport. Also, the owners agonized over whether to change the name right after 911, but in the spirit of the President's message they decided to let it stand.
12 posted on 03/14/2004 11:12:32 AM PST by Archangelsk (Shall we have a king?)
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To: Archangelsk
Hey, take a look at this--- LOL--we should have lots more pilots! They add so much to our communities!
13 posted on 03/14/2004 1:47:58 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle; Criminal Number 18F; Aeronaut; RedBloodedAmerican
I happen to know this young man, he did exactly what he was supposed to do. Blame the owner/operator on a poorly maintained plane, not the pilot.

You are now officially on the GA defecation list.

14 posted on 03/14/2004 1:57:32 PM PST by Archangelsk (Shall we have a king?)
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To: Archangelsk
OLD news.

So the pilot was supposed to land on a human on the ground, to break his fall? I missed that in the manual.

This one will be great to bring to Town Hall and show the mayor.

15 posted on 03/14/2004 2:06:11 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Archangelsk
Ignore her. She's just an aviation-thread-specific troll. There's no point in even responding to trolls.

You will notice that she (? if really a she? Using female names is a fave of net trolls of all types) is always in these threads sniping, bitching and whining, and trying to stir people up.

Asked to explain "her" peeve, she once said that friends of "hers" buzz "her" house, but "she's" too diffident to tell them to stop. So "she" comes here and bitches at us instead.

I expect that "she" thinks that the government should just run some central school somewhere, far away from "her", to train just enough pilots so that there is always a crew available when "she" needs to go somewhere, and they should just move the airport closer when "she" needs to travel and then roll it up and put it away in the closet till "she" needs it again. A spoiled [anatomically explicit pejorative deleted].

NIMBYs are like and unlike terrorists. Like, in that there is absolutely nothing to be gained by negotiating or discussing things with them. They have a self-centered, logically inconsistent worldview. Unlike, in that we are not allowed to whack them, and in that they are not going to kill anyone directly. (More people are killed by poorly trained pilots than by pilot training -- which is one big reason it's safer to fly American or Delta, JetBlue or Continental Express, than Haiti Air Taxi or Cubana).

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F
16 posted on 03/15/2004 9:20:34 AM PST by Criminal Number 18F
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To: Criminal Number 18F
Ignore her. She's just an aviation-thread-specific troll. There's no point in even responding to trolls.

Much like mud wrestling a pig. The pig loves it and everyone gets dirty.

17 posted on 03/15/2004 10:10:28 AM PST by Archangelsk (Shall we have a king?)
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