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"JOBS AT A RECORD HIGH!" - Fred Barnes
Fox News | 3/12/04 | Fred Barnes

Posted on 03/12/2004 4:07:52 PM PST by The G Man

Fred (The Beatle) Barnes on FOX just B-slapped Juan Williams after Juan-ton-ton (the lib who saved Hollywood) parroted the company line of a "jobless recovery" and people "leaving the workforce because they are so discouraged"

Fred then cut him off and went onto forcefully explain the difference between the "payroll survey" which polls employers as to their employment info and the "household survey" which polls, well, households as to THEIR employment. He went onto explain that if you use the household survey number EMPLOYMENT IS AT A RECORD HIGH BY $700,000 JOBS!!!

The household survey takes into account things like people who leave their jobs to become consultants, independent contractors, or to run home based businesses.

Juan was left dumbfounded.

This is our avenue of attack! This is the road that we conservatives need to take to counter the Dems slanderous allegations about the economic recovery. The workforce dynamic has changed over the last 10 years. The advent of the internet and eBay has made running a home based business a reality for countless Americans. Lets count 'em!


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bushrecovery; jobs; unemployment
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Tawk amongst yourselves.
1 posted on 03/12/2004 4:07:54 PM PST by The G Man
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To: The G Man
Thanks for posting thisas I wasn't able to catch it due to my Son's monopolization of the TV for Playstation.

I'll record the rerun.
2 posted on 03/12/2004 4:09:51 PM PST by RandallFlagg (<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">miserable failure)
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To: The G Man
That's me. Laid off by 911, unemployed consultant ever since. If I weren't such an old introverted geek, I would be on my way to being rich. For computer people, there thousands of small businesses drowning in computer problems. There just aren't any large, fat companies offering security and benefits right now.
3 posted on 03/12/2004 4:11:39 PM PST by js1138
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To: RandallFlagg
The reincarnation of Satan has to wait for his kid to stop playing playstation?

(I LOVED "The Stand" ... Stephen King's greatest work)

4 posted on 03/12/2004 4:11:55 PM PST by The G Man (John Kerry? America just can't afford a 9/10 President in a 9/11 world. Vote Bush-Cheney '04.)
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To: The G Man
It's not the first time Juan has parroted that line. Once before both Mort and Fred bodyslammed Juan to the mat because Juan brought up the line "jobless recovery". Juan generally does it when Brit is not in studio.
5 posted on 03/12/2004 4:12:23 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Liberalism is Communism one drink at a time. - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: The G Man
But, but, but..........Bush hasn't created ANY jobs......just ask your local leftie.
6 posted on 03/12/2004 4:12:33 PM PST by EggsAckley (..................That black stuff is hurting us............................)
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To: The G Man
It is true. I know many people who are "consultants" including some who just started working for companies ad-hoc. They are paid when they work and are quite happy about it. They aren't included in any payroll survey, until they start filing their taxes quarterly I guess. Unemployment is 5.6% - pretty low if you ask me.

Stupid liberal Dims would try to talk down the economy if there was 100% employment.
7 posted on 03/12/2004 4:12:44 PM PST by petercooper (Florida 2000: Bush 2,912,790 - Gore 2,912,253)
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To: js1138
I've been a contractor my entire adult life. Hop in, the waters fine.
8 posted on 03/12/2004 4:12:57 PM PST by jwalsh07 (We're bringing it on John but you can't handle the truth!)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Juan seems like a nice guy - a dope though
9 posted on 03/12/2004 4:14:07 PM PST by petercooper (Florida 2000: Bush 2,912,790 - Gore 2,912,253)
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To: jwalsh07
I've been a contractor my entire adult life. Hop in, the waters fine.

Computers?

10 posted on 03/12/2004 4:15:09 PM PST by John123 (A proud member of the most crooked, you know, lying group you've ever seen)
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To: petercooper
Ya know. I have to agree. I used to hate him. But since he joined Fox I've actually learned to like him. But yeah, still a dope though.
11 posted on 03/12/2004 4:15:37 PM PST by The G Man (John Kerry? America just can't afford a 9/10 President in a 9/11 world. Vote Bush-Cheney '04.)
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To: The G Man
All the Federal Express delivery people are "contractors" and no longer counted.

Computer companies hire thousands of computer consultants until they are ready to either hire permanently or make the decision that the position is not needed (downturn).
12 posted on 03/12/2004 4:15:59 PM PST by BushisTheMan
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To: petercooper
Juan seems like a nice guy - a dope though

Agreed.

13 posted on 03/12/2004 4:16:29 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Liberalism is Communism one drink at a time. - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: John123
Xray repair and installation.
14 posted on 03/12/2004 4:17:03 PM PST by jwalsh07 (We're bringing it on John but you can't handle the truth!)
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To: petercooper
Considering the economic definition of "full employment" is an unemployment rate of 4.0%, I think the US is doing pretty well at 5.6%. Of course, Democrat rhetoric on how bad the economy is will only hurt the recovery underway, but what do they care about the health of the nation as long as Steve and Bill can get married?
15 posted on 03/12/2004 4:17:26 PM PST by bigpete_53
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Juan generally does it when Brit is not in studio.For Brit, it's like taking candy from a baby. He may very well be the smartest person in the entire "mainstream" media. He slaps them around like nobody's business.
16 posted on 03/12/2004 4:17:47 PM PST by The G Man (John Kerry? America just can't afford a 9/10 President in a 9/11 world. Vote Bush-Cheney '04.)
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To: The G Man
Small engine repairman here, + some cabinet making as i learn more. The bum leg keeps me out of the shops and i wouldnt drive a desk fer nuthin.
17 posted on 03/12/2004 4:19:38 PM PST by cripplecreek (you tell em i'm commin.... and hells commin with me.)
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To: The G Man
NEWS FLASH! Albert Wang predicts 45 State Bush Blowout!

The left will need much better than this.
18 posted on 03/12/2004 4:19:55 PM PST by AlbertWang
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To: The G Man
The liberals always have viewed the American economy through big businesses and the Unions. They still acts as if the losses in manufacturing is new thing.

The backbone of the is economy is small business and sole proprietorships and those jobs are not accurately represented in the payroll surveys.
19 posted on 03/12/2004 4:19:59 PM PST by CyberCowboy777 (We should never ever apologize for who we are, what we believe in, and what we stand for.)
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To: The G Man
Mort had a blistering rebuttal of his own for Juan. He really became animated when he lit into Williams for even trying to compare the kerry attacks on the President to these opening ads that the GOP are running presently. He also bristled at the spin that Williams was trying on kerry's latest "hate statement".

We are truly starting to get to the dims!!

LLS
20 posted on 03/12/2004 4:21:03 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (We point out Kerry's record and the facts, and they just THINK it's attack politics.)
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