Stern Partially Silenced, Defended by Congressman

FMQB ^ | 3/12/04

[E Rocc]

OK, so let's have Time Warner and the media titans control the culture. That surely must be better then having some modest regulation by an elected government.

It's not only better, it's way better.

Why? Because one can opt not to do business with the media titans. A counterculture can easily spring up. Indeed during the early 1950s when the media titans had far more control over communication than they do today, they tried to impose a bland culture. Rock and roll still broke past it.

When the government controls it, there are no options. Indeed, when we are talking about the economy instead of the culture, this is one of the fundamental precepts of conservatism.

-Eric

[E Rocc]

If you support Stern, you support moral anarchy.

Correction: moral liberty.

-Eric

[F16Fighter]

"Correction: moral liberty."

From a true anarchist's perspective...

Be sure to get yourself front-row center at the Sodomy Parade slip-slidin' down Main Street next year.

[F16Fighter]

"His politics are now closer to Michael Moore than George Pataki's. He had Margaret Cho, for goodness sakes, on his show this week."

But don't "birds of a feather flock together"? And Cho is about as funny as stepping on a rusty nail...

So desperate is Stern now, that he must beg all the misfits, moral anarchists, and scum-bags of the world to support his mult-million dollar salary and "right" to retain his throne as 'King Of All Scatology and Perversion Comedy' so he may continue on "serving" his "subjects."

How utterly pathetic.

[contessa machiaveli]

i'm offended by all the bogus evangelists i hear on radio stations when i'm south of the M/D line. they prey on demented elderly for contributions, they're thieves and that is obscene, should i have the right to take them off the radio? or should i just hit the off button?

[FreeReign]

i'm offended by all the bogus evangelists i hear on radio stations when i'm south of the M/D line. they prey on demented elderly for contributions, they're thieves and that is obscene, should i have the right to take them off the radio? or should i just hit the off button?

The public consensus doesn't want sexual pervision on their airwaves. The public hasn't said the same about "bogus" evangelists.

[FreeReign]

"Correction: moral liberty." From a true anarchist's perspective...

Yes, the freedom to do whatever you want on public property is an anarchist POV.

[NYCVirago]

But don't "birds of a feather flock together"? And Cho is about as funny as stepping on a rusty nail...

No kidding. Who's next on the show -- Barbara Streisand?

So desperate is Stern now, that he must beg all the misfits, moral anarchists, and scum-bags of the world to support his mult-million dollar salary and "right" to retain his throne as 'King Of All Scatology and Perversion Comedy' so he may continue on "serving" his "subjects." How utterly pathetic.

You've got that right. Stern was threatening to have a Million Moron March on Washington -- no joke. I'd love to see it happen, frankly!

[contessa machiaveli]

sexual perversion? remember jimmy swaggart, jim bakker, bob livingston, and we can't forget the issue being made about the homosexual lifestyle or abortion.
i believe until we have lawmakers who have never taken a walk on the wild side (can't forget tim hutchinson, or govs. perry and owens, or good ole bill clinton)they should just keep there mouths closed and legislate the important issues.
i really don't think they want a cultural war, it will get very ugly. howard talks about things our upstanding legislators do in the shadows.

[F16Fighter]

"i'm offended by all the bogus evangelists i hear on radio stations when i'm south of the M/D line. they prey on demented elderly for contributions, they're thieves and that is obscene, should i have the right to take them off the radio? or should i just hit the off button?"

First things first -- capital letters -- they have been invented...

Now for an answer to your lame-o analogy:

Though you may into scat, that's your problem, but try backing up your goofy charges by levying a specific charge against a specific evangelist that violates FCC, obscenity, or decency laws and standards...

That is IF you can find your way out of the bathroom and back to your PC.

[F16Fighter]

"Stern was threatening to have a Million Moron March on Washington -- no joke. I'd love to see it happen, frankly!"

Something tell me he'd have NO recruitment problem whatsoever -- including more than a few "enlightened" Freepers.

[oceanview]

we elect the government, how can you say we have "no options". We have a 50/50 chance of having Kerry as president, you don't think we would see policy changes if he were elected?

the real truth is that's its the media elites who are almost unbreakable. See any chance of having Brokaw, Jennings or Rather replaced on the evening news? Can you get Hollywood to make a truthful movie about 9/11, or about Ronald Reagan?

[contessa machiaveli]

capital letters? that certainly isn't the issue. i'm talking about moral ambiguities and hypocrisy.
i don't care who or what your taste is in entertainment...and it is entertainment, you have your preferences and i have mine. comprende?
unless the president concentrates on the defense of our country, (which is the only thing the federal government should do), he will lose in november.
i have examples of sleazy behavior from some of our so-called moral leaders ...do you really want to know?

[Pelham]

Isn't that the truth. The "enlightened" here see the need for civility in public as a direct threat to their freedom. But then 14 yr old males often resent any limitations on their public behavior. Howard Stern brought the junior high school boy's locker room to the public airwaves, and it's somehow a great leap forward in free speech that must be 'conserved'.

This Howard Stern excitement is just the sorry stepchild of Mario Savio's Free Speech Movement up at Berkeley, which marked the opening salvo of hard left radicalism in the '60s. History repeats itself, first as drama, then as farce.

[F16Fighter]

"Isn't that the truth. The 'enlightened' here see the need for civility in public as a direct threat to their freedom. But then 14 yr old males often resent any limitations on their public behavior. Howard Stern brought the junior high school boy's locker room to the public airwaves, and it's somehow a great leap forward in free speech that must be 'conserved'. ..."

Heh-heh -- well put...

[Pelham]

Howard likes to play "the argument of the beard", a logical fallacy- in his version you can't define where vulgarity begins, so it doesn't exist:

Argument Of The Beard

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This is a paradoxical argument which derives from the impossibility of answering the question "How many hairs does a man have to grow before he has a beard?" Since there is no specific number at which an unsightly clump of hairs becomes a beard, the argument is that no useful distinction can be made between a clean-shaven man and Santa Claus.

Another way of expressing the fallacy is in the argument that there is no harm in removing one hair from a beard since it will not stop it being a beard; the argument is superficially convincing until you realise that eventually the beard will indeed disappear, even if it is plucked one hair at a time.

Thus the argument of the beard suggests that there is no difference between those things which occupy opposite ends of a continuum, because there is no definable moment at which one becomes the other: day and night, or childhood and adulthood, for example. This fallacy often turns up in essays that discuss such subjects as the appropriate age for drinking, voting, or driving.

[jmstein7]

F*ck Howard Stern, that stupid, selfish bastard.

Honestly... we should get a list of his advertisers and "CBS" him.

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

If you are a fan of mine, and I reach millions of people, just get him out of office.

Such hubris. I think Stern is about to learn exactly how small his core audience really is.

[Tumbleweed_Connection]

I've watched him since the Clear Channel decision and I'm not understanding his complaints. Screw Clear Channel and move on.