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Madrid Bombs Don't Match ETA Style - Europol Head (Update: AQ Claims Attack)
Yahoo News/ Reuters ^ | March 11 , 2004 | Yahoo News/ Reuters

Posted on 03/11/2004 12:14:53 PM PST by conservativecorner

ROME (Reuters) - The simultaneous bomb blasts that ripped through commuter trains in Madrid on Thursday did not bear the hallmarks of Basque separatist group ETA, the head of the European Union (news - web sites)'s police agency said.

Reuters Photo

"It could have been ETA... But we're dealing with an attack that doesn't correspond to the 'modus operandi' they have adopted up to now," said Europol director Juergen Storbeck, who was in Rome to talk to an Italian parliamentary committee.

"In the past ETA has always attacked individuals, and if they saw any danger for the public they gave a warning... It's not yet clear they were the authors," Italian news agency Ansa quoted him as saying.

Despite Spain's recent successes against ETA, "there could still be other cells that have not been brought under control and could have become more extremist," he said.

He did not say whether he believed Osama bin Laden (news - web sites)'s al Qaeda network might have been behind the attack.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 31104; alqaedaspain; clintonlegacy; eta; jihadineurope; madridbombing; madridmassacre; religionofpieces; spain; terrorism
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1 posted on 03/11/2004 12:14:54 PM PST by conservativecorner
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To: conservativecorner
Drudge has a note that Spainish cops have found a van with bomb parts AND some "Islamic Materials"... More gifts of love from our peace loving mooselim brothers.
2 posted on 03/11/2004 12:16:09 PM PST by EUPHORIC (Right? Left? Read Ecclesiastes 10:2 for a definition. The Bible knows all about it!)
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To: EUPHORIC

3 posted on 03/11/2004 12:19:50 PM PST by KQQL (@)
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To: EUPHORIC
Yeah - I just read where Mansoor Ijaz said that this whole incident reeks of the heathen Al Queda. Prayers out to the victims and their families. Spain - good, solid allies they've been - just had a mini-9/11 of their own, and I hope that the Spanish authorities catch the accomplices and skin them alive.
4 posted on 03/11/2004 12:21:58 PM PST by Viking2002 (I think; therefore, I Freep............)
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To: conservativecorner
"In the past ETA has always attacked individuals, and if they saw any danger for the public they gave a warning... It's not yet clear they were the authors,"

It certainly sounds more like the MO of the Palistian Jihaddies. The train cars even looked like the Israeli buses that the Palies seem to like to blow up. The only difference apparently being that whoever did this didn't have the cojones to take himself out in the act. Maybe that makes them some lessor brand of Jihadi?

5 posted on 03/11/2004 12:23:22 PM PST by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: conservativecorner
"It's not yet clear they were the authors... "

Well, can they give me a call ?
It may be a prejudice - but I have a fair IDEA

6 posted on 03/11/2004 12:24:27 PM PST by traumer (Even paranoids have enemies)
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To: Viking2002
Yeah - I just read where Mansoor Ijaz said that this whole incident reeks of the heathen Al Queda.

Simultaneous (or consecutive) attacks are a sign of al qaeda: the embassy bombings in Africa; 9/11; the bombing of the Kenyan hotel and the attempted shooting down of an El-Al plane leaving Kenya, and so on...

7 posted on 03/11/2004 12:28:19 PM PST by NYC GOP Chick ("This situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part!")
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To: conservativecorner
Aren't these the types of attacks that Kerry said wasn't a big deal???
8 posted on 03/11/2004 12:29:24 PM PST by Mo1 (Do you want a president who injects poison into his skull for vanity?)
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To: Mo1
Yes indeedy. He's probably working up some lame comment on how it's tied their support for America and how that's what caused them to be targeted. Nothing, to do with that first new mosque in 500 yrs., I'm sure (sarcasm).

When I first heard about it, I was told it was a train wreck, and I thought 'how tragic'. But when I read it was a series of bombings, I thought the same thing, it doesn't sound like the ETA's 'work'. I was immediately suspicious. Sadly, I guess AQ was involved.

9 posted on 03/11/2004 12:35:52 PM PST by fortunecookie
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To: conservativecorner
It can't be a terrorist attack. It must've been some sort of industrial accident or something. John Fonda Kerry said the terrorist threat has been overblown by this administration, so it must be the case.....
10 posted on 03/11/2004 12:36:30 PM PST by b4its2late (Place your clothes and weapons where you can find them in the dark!)
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Purported Qaeda Letter Claims Spain Bombings-Paper

Thu Mar 11, 2004 03:31 PM ET

DUBAI (Reuters) - A letter purporting to come from Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network claimed responsibility for the train bombings in Spain on Thursday, calling them strikes against "crusaders," a London-based Arabic newspaper said.

"We have succeeded in infiltrating the heart of crusader Europe and struck one of the bases of the crusader alliance," said the letter which called the attacks "Operation Death Trains." There was no way of authenticating the letter, a copy of which was faxed to Reuters' office in Dubai by the London-based al-Quds al-Arabi newspaper.

The letter bore the signature "Abu Hafs al-Masri Brigades." The newspaper received similar letters from the same brigade claiming responsibility on behalf of al Qaeda for a November bombing of two synagogues in Turkey and the August bombing of the U.N. headquarters in Baghdad.


11 posted on 03/11/2004 12:37:40 PM PST by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: Viking2002
Proportional to the size of Spain vis-a-vis the USA, this was not a "mini" 9/11 at all, but a full-blown one. At one eighth of our population, this would have been the equivalent of 1600+ dead and 10,000+ wounded for us.
12 posted on 03/11/2004 12:42:42 PM PST by thoughtomator (When Bush said, "Islam is a religion of peace", he was giving an order, not a description)
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To: thoughtomator
Excellent point.

The Spaniards are great friends; we should grieve for them as they did for us.

13 posted on 03/11/2004 12:46:06 PM PST by Airborne Longhorn
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To: Airborne Longhorn
The Spaniards are great friends; we should grieve for them as they did for us.

Exactly ... they were there for us when we needed them .. we should be there for them

Prayers to all in Spain

14 posted on 03/11/2004 12:52:50 PM PST by Mo1 (Do you want a president who injects poison into his skull for vanity?)
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To: Mo1
Kerry says threat of terrorism is exaggerated


By Brian DeBose
THE WASHINGTON TIMES



GREENVILLE, S.C. — Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts said during last night's Democratic presidential debate that the threat of terrorism has been exaggerated.
"I think there has been an exaggeration," Mr. Kerry said when asked whether President Bush has overstated the threat of terrorism. "They are misleading all Americans in a profound way."
The front-runner for the Democratic nomination said he would engage other nations in a more cooperative fashion to quell terrorism.
"This administration's arrogant and ideological policy is taking America down a more dangerous path," Mr. Kerry said. "I will make America safer than they are."
All seven remaining Democratic White House hopefuls clashed on stage here last night for 90 minutes in the final debate before seven states, including South Carolina, hold primaries or caucuses Tuesday.
NBC anchorman Tom Brokaw moderated the debate, sponsored by the Young Democrats of Furman University and held in the university's Peace Center for the Performing Arts in downtown Greenville.
Sen. John Edwards, who was born in this state and has said he must win here, took the first opportunity to disagree with Mr. Kerry, the victor in both the binding Democratic contests held so far — the Iowa caucuses and the New Hampshire primary.
"It's just hard for me to see how you can say there's an exaggeration when thousands of people lost their lives on September 11," Mr. Edwards said.
But Mr. Edwards, who represents North Carolina in the Senate, added that while national security is important, Mr. Bush has ignored other pressing issues.
"The president of the United States actually has to be able to walk and chew gum at the same time," he said.
Howard Dean, the former front-runner who is struggling to regain the edge in his campaign, criticized the Bush administration for the Patriot Act, which he said has gone too far toward eroding individual liberties.
"I think in some ways, unfortunately, the terrorists have already won," he said.
Mr. Dean, a physician, also fired several broadsides at Mr. Kerry, livening up the debate.
"Senator Kerry is the front-runner, and I mean him no insult, but in 19 years in the Senate, Senator Kerry sponsored 11 bills dealing with health care, and not one of them passed," the former governor of Vermont said. "If you want a president who will get results, I suggest that you look at somebody who did get results in my state."
Replied Mr. Kerry: "One of the things that you need to know as president is how things work in Congress if you want to get things done.
"One of the things that happens in Congress is you can, in fact, write a bill. But if you're smart about it, you can get it on someone else's bill that doesn't carry your name," he said.
Mr. Dean said testimony and interviews within the past week from weapons inspector David Kay prove that Saddam Hussein's Iraq did not have weapons of mass destruction. He also said Vice President Dick Cheney met with CIA intelligence gatherers and trumped up the intelligence to force the country to war.
"We now know that Vice President Cheney sat down with top CIA officials and berated them because he didn't like their intelligence reports; that is the kind of thing I expected and why I opposed the war," Mr. Dean said.
Sen. Joe Lieberman of Connecticut was the only candidate who supported the war in Iraq, and credited the U.S. victory with breakthroughs on the diplomatic front.
"I seriously doubt Libya would have given up its weapons of mass destruction program if not for this war, and it is a shame that the questions about the intelligence have unfortunately given a bad name to a good war," Mr. Lieberman said.
The North American Free Trade Agreement received attention from the candidates, with Rep. Dennis J. Kucinich of Ohio denouncing the pact outright, while others stated that they wanted to amend the program to focus on workers' rights.
The Rev. Al Sharpton of New York won the loudest applause of the night when he denounced Greenville for not celebrating Martin Luther King's birthday as a holiday and the state for flying the Confederate flag.
"There is no place for the Confederate flag in America. You can't change what it represents: slavery, raping and the evil of racism," Mr. Sharpton said.
Mr. Kucinich added that he was not staying in South Carolina last night out of respect for a National Association for the Advancement of Colored People boycott of the state over the flag, which flies at a Confederate memorial in front of the Statehouse in Columbia, after having been taken down from atop the state Capitol.
Mr. Kucinich and Mr. Sharpton, the most liberal of the remaining candidates, both said they support a government-run health-care system with no role for profits.
Wesley Clark of Arkansas said he does not support a start-from-scratch health care plan, as backed by many of the other candidates.
"I would not start all over. We have to make this system work," Mr. Clark said.
Mr. Kerry looked to secure a foothold in the South with an endorsement from another high-ranking Democrat going into last night's debate.
Rep. James E. Clyburn, South Carolina Democrat, endorsed Mr. Kerry yesterday, saying that Mr. Kerry could end the "three straight years of job losses." Mr. Kerry touted his plan to eliminate tax provisions that allow businesses to move jobs overseas and instead reward those that employ Americans.
"John Kerry has a vision to get South Carolinians back to work," said Mr. Clyburn, the state's highest-ranking black elected official.
Mr. Clyburn initially backed Rep. Richard A. Gephardt, but the Missouri Democrat dropped out of the race after placing a disappointing fourth in the Iowa caucuses.
There has been chatter about a presidential ticket of Mr. Edwards and Mr. Kerry — although supporters of each man led with his preferred candidate at the head of the ticket.
"I'd like to see a Kerry-Edwards combo; I think it could be good," said Robert Martineau, 72, a supporter of Mr. Kerry.
The Greenville transplant from Vermont said he thought the only way to beat Mr. Bush in the South was to have Mr. Edwards win support below the Mason-Dixon Line.
Rep. Albert R. Wynn of Maryland, who endorsed Mr. Edwards, said he, too, thought it was an excellent idea.
"I have heard that all over the place, down here and in Washington, and I think we do need an Edwards-Kerry campaign to win the South. That is exactly what we need to win," Mr. Wynn said.
Polls show that Mr. Clark, Mr. Kerry and Mr. Edwards are the leading candidates in South Carolina in the week before Tuesday's primary. In two polls this week, Mr. Edwards gained ground while the other candidates lost support among likely voters.
•Charles Hurt contributed to this report from Washington.


15 posted on 03/11/2004 1:07:51 PM PST by conservativecorner
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To: conservativecorner
"I think there has been an exaggeration," Mr. Kerry said when asked whether President Bush has overstated the threat of terrorism. "They are misleading all Americans in a profound way."

I do hope that Kerry is asked to address this pronouncement of his given that is totally disconnected from the reality in which we live.

16 posted on 03/11/2004 1:18:28 PM PST by Prodigal Son (Liberal ideas are deadlier than second hand smoke.)
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To: thoughtomator
Ah - thank you for putting that in perspective......
17 posted on 03/11/2004 1:32:50 PM PST by Viking2002 (I think; therefore, I Freep............)
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To: michigander
The same brigade also claimed responsibility for the recent Northeast blackout: http://www.lebanonwire.com/0308/03081901DH.asp

Large grains of salt are apparently required when dealing with them.
18 posted on 03/11/2004 2:07:39 PM PST by lonewacko_dot_com (http://lonewacko.com/blog)
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To: conservativecorner
Daleel Almojahid (wanna-be AQ operative) claims to have posted a pic last night warning of the impending attack. Calls it the first with more to come.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1084291/posts?page=4114#4114
19 posted on 03/11/2004 2:41:54 PM PST by LayoutGuru2 (Call me paranoid but finding '/*' inside this comment makes me suspicious)
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To: conservativecorner
From the Koran:

Chapter 1 : REGARDING PERMISSION TO MAKE A RAID, WITHOUT AN ULTIMATUM, UPON THE DISBELIEVERS WHO HAVE ALREADY BEEN INVITED TO ACCEPT ISLAM


Book 19, Number 4292:

Ibn 'Aun reported: I wrote to Nafi' inquiring from him whether it was necessary to extend (to the disbelievers) an invitation to accept (Islam) before m". ing them in fight. He wrote (in reply) to me that it was necessary in the early days of Islam. The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) made a raid upon Banu Mustaliq while they were unaware and their cattle were having a drink at the water. He killed those who fought and imprisoned others. On that very day, he captured Juwairiya bint al-Harith. Nafi' said that this tradition was related to him by Abdullah b. Umar who (himself) was among the raiding troops.


20 posted on 03/11/2004 2:47:28 PM PST by Mark Felton (Antiestablishedpartymentarianist)
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