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U.S. Marines Deploy to More Haiti Cities
The Associated Press ^ | Fri, Mar 05, 2004 | Mark Stevenson and Paisley Sodds/ Ian James- Associated Press

Posted on 03/05/2004 2:00:38 PM PST by archy

U.S. Marines Deploy to More Haiti Cities

By MARK STEVENSON and PAISLEY DODDS, Associated Press Writers

PORT-AU-PRINCE, Haiti - U.S. forces have expanded their presence in Haiti beyond the capital, deploying to at least two cities that are rebel strongholds, a U.S. military spokesman said Friday.

Troops from the U.S. Southern Command based in Miami arrived at Cap-Haitien, a key port on Haiti's northern coast, seized by rebels Feb. 22, and the western city of Gonaives, where the rebellion started Feb. 5, said Army Maj. Richard Crusan, spokesman for the interim international force in Haiti.

He also said forces may also be deploying to other cities. "We have teams throughout the country," he said, adding that some forces are in Cap-Haitien and Gonaives to train and assist police.

Crusan said the teams from Florida are in addition to the 1,100 U.S. Marines in the capital, Port-au-Prince, but provided no details about whether they are special-operations forces or how or when they arrived in Haiti.

The move came as police in those cities started trying to disarm rebels, although the U.S. military emphasized that disarmament was not part of its mandate in Haiti.

"We are not disarming," Crisam said. "That is a job for the Haitian police. We don't even want to touch (the rebels') guns."

Resistance to disarmament — one of Haiti's most urgent needs — is expected to be strongest in Gonaives, where a homegrown rebel movement drove out police and sparked the uprising that eventually led to Sunday's resignation of President Jean-Bertrand Aristide.

Radio Metropole reported some resistance to the disarming, particularly in Gonaives, but no fighting. The report could not be immediately confirmed.

Paul Arcelin, a former ambassador to the Dominican Republic who is close to rebel leader Guy Philippe, told The Associated Press on Friday that rebels would keep their weapons as long as Aristide militants stay armed, because "tomorrow they'll come here and kill us."

Asked where the rebel guns were, he said, "We hide them."

Philippe, apparently under U.S. pressure, promised Wednesday that his fighters would disarm, but no disarmament plan has been announced. Philippe has said the weapons are in rebel bases scattered around the country.

In the capital, U.S. Marines on patrol Thursday met little resistance beside hostile words. They trained their rifles on areas where pro-Aristide militants vented their anger.

"You took our president — now you're taking our country!" a young boy shouted as a Marine convoy passed an angry crowd.

Others held up photographs of Aristide, who fled the country Sunday as rebels neared the outskirts of the capital and the United States and former colonial ruler France pressed him to resign.

Yet Haiti's capital also took faltering steps to normality after a rampage of looting, shooting and continuing reprisals in the wake of Aristide's flight.

Merchants wiped away pro-Aristide graffiti. People laughed as a Marine, fighting the heat, emptied a canteen of water of his head. Most Haitians walk many miles to get clean water.

"I feel much safer now the Marines are here," said Frantz Labissiere, 44.

In one major step, the opposition coalition and Aristide's Lavalas party agreed on a council of three men to start the process of forming a government of national unity. The three have a week to choose seven members for a Council of Sages that will propose a new prime minister.

Still, violence continued outside the capital, and Haitians wise to their country's cyclical bloodshed doubted the short-lived peacekeeping force offered by the international community could make any difference in the long-term.

In Gressier, six miles west of Port-au-Prince, an Associated Press reporter saw the bodies of four men in the street Thursday. All were shot in the head and three had their hands tied behind their backs.

"The rebels want to take over the country," said Gracious Laguenne, a tailor. "As soon as the Americans leave, they're going to come back and it will be the same thing all over again."

Leading opposition politician Evans Paul told France's LCI television that the opposition coalition would meet Friday with rebel leader Philippe and his associates. Those include two convicted assassins whose arrest is being demanded by human rights groups.

"We will need to work with Mr. Philippe and other sectors of the country that played an important role in this great insurrection that swept Mr. Aristide from power," Evans told LCI.

Philippe has said he wants to reinstall Haiti's disgraced army, which fomented 32 coups in its 200 years of independence and whose murderous instincts and corruption are largely blamed for making Haiti — a country steeped in mysticism and art — one of the most miserable in the world.

The army ousted Aristide months after he became the first freely elected president in 1990. Aristide was restored to popular acclaim by a U.S. invasion in 1994 and disbanded the army in 1995.

He lost much popularity in recent years as he failed to improve life for Haiti's poor and, as opposition grew, used police and militant loyalists to attack his opponents.

Aristide denies those charges and says the violence came from the opposition, which he accused of supporting the rebellion that led to his downfall.

Paul also told LCI television that they hoped soon to bring charges against Aristide, who remains in seclusion in the Central African Republic — another impoverished, coup-ridden former French colony. Officials there said they still were hunting Thursday for a third country to give Aristide permanent asylum but also were willing to offer it.

"He is implicated in crimes, in the embezzlement of funds," Paul told LCI television.

Questions persisted about the circumstances of Aristide's departure. He claims he was abducted at gunpoint by U.S. Marines, a charge Washington denies. South Africa along with the 15-nation Caribbean Community and an African-American lobby have called for an investigation.

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Associated Press writer Ian James in Port-au-Prince contributed to this report.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Cuba; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: aristide; deployed; fast; gonaives; guyphilippe; haiti; haitian; louisjodelchamblain; marines; metayer; nrlf; rebels
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1 posted on 03/05/2004 2:00:38 PM PST by archy
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To: archy
I'm waiting for the first American casualty. For, when that happens, the very leftmedia shills who a week ago were screaming, "Why doesn't Bush send in the Marines and help these poor people?", will then change their tune to, "Oh my GOD -- it's a QUAGMIRE!".

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

2 posted on 03/05/2004 2:02:52 PM PST by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism.)
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Haitians taking justice into own hands
It took an armed posse five days to track down Ti Roro. Once they did, Roro was beaten with sticks, taken to the morgue to identify his alleged victims, ringed with gasoline-soaked tires and burned alive.

"It took him more than an hour to die, but as he was burning, he admitted to all of the 15 people he killed in the last year," said Joubert Muraille, 41, who witnessed Wednesday's killing but said he did not participate. "He deserved it 1,000 times

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3 posted on 03/05/2004 2:05:19 PM PST by george wythe
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To: Gunslingr3; Ragtime Cowgirl; backhoe
Haiti: it continues. Ping!
4 posted on 03/05/2004 2:41:34 PM PST by archy (Concrete shoes, cyanide, TNT! Done dirt cheap! Neckties, contracts, high voltage...Done dirt cheap!)
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To: archy
prayers for our boys in Haiti, Godspeed marines.
5 posted on 03/05/2004 3:54:09 PM PST by exnavy
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To: archy

That means the arms shipments are coming in at the other ports. Gonaives and Cap-Haitien would be my likely guesses.


12 posted on 03/03/2004 3:57:33 PM EST by archy
 

I don't want you to be right about Haiti, but thanks for paying attention ~ and for the heads up.

My neighbor (who listens to mainstream news) now believes the only reason we didn't go to war in Haiti first was because they have no oil.

6 posted on 03/05/2004 4:18:52 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl ("(We)..come to rout out tyranny from its nest. Confusion to the enemy." - B. Taylor, US Marine)
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To: archy
lived by necklacing, but didn't die by necklacing - unlike his thugs - Port Au Prince, March 5

7 posted on 03/05/2004 4:20:56 PM PST by Truth666
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To: Truth666
I meant Aristide, of course. ONCE AGAIN HAITIAN PRESIDENT JOHN-BERTRAND ARISTIDE may be ousted by his citizens, who began a new rebellion against his tyrannical rule on February 5. After Aristide was removed by a military coup in 1991, President Bill Clinton in 1994 sent 20,000 U.S. troops to Haiti to restore to power this former Roman Catholic Priest who once called Cuban dictator Fidel Castro his "greatest personal hero." Aristide endorsed "necklacing" of the kind widely practiced in South Africa by Winnie Mandela. It consists of seizing a victim, forcing an automobile tire filled with gasoline down over their head and shoulders, and then setting the tire and gasoline on fire. "What a beautiful tool!" It smells good. And wherever you go, you want to smell it," Aristide said of the necklacing of his critics on September 27, 1991, as witnessed and reported by Associated Press. Note the above date. Despite knowing of Aristide's penchant for necklacing critics, and despite knowing that a CIA psychological profile had identified Aristide as "a psychopath," Clinton three years later put at risk 20,000 of America's most elite troops to remove the Haitian government in order to re-install this murdering psychopath Jean-Bertrand Aristide as President of Haiti.
8 posted on 03/05/2004 4:24:12 PM PST by Truth666
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To: MJY1288; xzins; Calpernia; TEXOKIE; Alamo-Girl; windchime; Grampa Dave; anniegetyourgun; ...

PORT-AU-PRINCE, Haiti - U.S. forces have expanded their presence in Haiti beyond the capital, deploying to at least two cities that are rebel strongholds....

Troops from the U.S. Southern Command based in Miami arrived at Cap-Haitien, a key port on Haiti's northern coast, seized by rebels Feb. 22, and the western city of Gonaives, where the rebellion started Feb. 5...

The move came as police in those cities started trying to disarm rebels, although the U.S. military emphasized that disarmament was not part of its mandate in Haiti.

....Paul Arcelin, a former ambassador to the Dominican Republic who is close to rebel leader Guy Philippe, told The Associated Press on Friday that rebels would keep their weapons as long as Aristide militants stay armed, because "tomorrow they'll come here and kill us."

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9 posted on 03/05/2004 4:47:29 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl ("(We)..come to rout out tyranny from its nest. Confusion to the enemy." - B. Taylor, US Marine)
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To: Joe Brower
I'm waiting for the first American casualty. For, when that happens, the very leftmedia shills who a week ago were screaming, "Why doesn't Bush send in the Marines and help these poor people?", will then change their tune to, "Oh my GOD -- it's a QUAGMIRE!".

I'm not waiting for any casualties, we have no business being there and I don't think the life of even one U.S. service member is worth losing over Haiti. The French screwed this place up a hundred years ago, let them fix it.

11 posted on 03/05/2004 7:06:16 PM PST by evm
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To: evm
Bump!
12 posted on 03/05/2004 11:55:04 PM PST by 4Freedom (America is no longer the 'Land of Opportunity', it's the 'Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists'!!!)
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To: Joe Brower
I wish no marine had ever gone there, except maybe to protect the embassy. Then Aritide would have died in the streets and we wouldn't have him whining right now. Listening to the things being said, I think this [B]is[/B] a quagmire.
13 posted on 03/06/2004 1:24:23 AM PST by sociotard (I am the one true Sociotard)
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To: archy
Haiti - Bush's Kosovo. No reason to go in and no timeline of when we'll be getting out.
14 posted on 03/06/2004 3:06:44 AM PST by KantianBurke (Principles, not blind loyalty)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Bump!
15 posted on 03/06/2004 4:59:39 AM PST by windchime (Podesta about Bush: "He's got four years to try to undo all the stuff we've done." (TIME-1/22/01))
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To: KantianBurke
"Haiti - Bush's Kosovo. No reason to go in and no timeline of when we'll be getting out."


Reason #1 check out post #6. To the left is Cuba. To the right is Haiti. You'll also notice a major seaport for the US Navy known as Gitmo.

Reason #2 The seagate running between Cuba and Haiti is important. Imagine terrorists using the Haitian chaos as a staging point for their long expected naval terrorism. Bad enough we are guarding Gilbraltar, Malakan Straights, and elsewhere.

Reason #3 Velenzuela is ruled by Cuban puppet. Haiti being led by Commie Aristede is unacceptable.

Reason #4 Rebel leader was once head of Haiti's death squad which is unacceptable.

Reason #5 Haiti shares the island of Hispaniola with the DR. Chaos spilling over to the DR will excite pro-communist forces there. Another potential festering wound for terrorists to use. Hispaniola is only 100 miles from Florida.

Reason #6 It's politically expedient.

Reason #7 Things only the POTUS and his advisers know that we are not privy to know.
16 posted on 03/06/2004 8:23:00 AM PST by sully777 (Our descendants will be enslaved by political expediency and expenditure)
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To: sully777
LOL!! thats the sorriest batch of excuses that's been posted with regards to Bush's Hatian adventure. "Chaos spilling over to the DR will excite pro-communist forces there." Lyndon Johnson is that you???
17 posted on 03/06/2004 8:29:41 AM PST by KantianBurke (Principles, not blind loyalty)
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To: KantianBurke
Forgive me, I made guesses that salve my deluded eyes :)
18 posted on 03/06/2004 11:33:25 AM PST by sully777 (Our descendants will be enslaved by political expediency and expenditure)
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To: archy
'Normalcy' in Haiti is a cesspool. This is a nation-building nightmare, a Caribbean tarbaby.
19 posted on 03/07/2004 8:38:11 AM PST by hershey
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To: archy
And what the heck happened to Liberia?
20 posted on 03/07/2004 8:40:13 AM PST by hershey
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