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The dangers of SUV driving
WTNH News ^ | 3.3.04

Posted on 03/03/2004 12:10:08 PM PST by ambrose

The dangers of SUV driving

(Hadlyme-WTNH, Mar. 2, 2004 6:00 PM) _ SUV's are trendy, but are they safe?

The number of rollovers is astounding. An SUV driving school can help drivers be in control of their vehicles. Watch the story by News Channel 8's Gil Simmons

"There are three times as many rollover deaths in SUV's as there are in traditional cars," says Dr. Phillip Atwell Brewer, Yale- New Haven Hospital.

Doctor Phillip Brewer can put a face on the numbers. He's an attending physician in the emergency room at Yale New Haven Hospital and he's alarmed by the number of trauma patients who end up there after they lose control of their SUV's.

"So putting your family in one of those vehicles is actually putting them at greater risk."

Dr. Brewer says those 'big SUV's' give drivers a false sense of security. He says bigger doesn't always mean safer.

"They feel safer and so they're less likely to drive safely and less likely to wear seat belts."

And his concerns are backed up by national numbers that show in 2003 36 percent of fatal SUV accidents involved rollovers, compared to only 4 percent of fatal crashes involving vans and passenger cars.

Bruce Elfstrom says,"You're obviously always going to wear your seatbelt."

Overland Experts, an SUV driving school, educates drivers showing their vehicles capability on and off road.

Instructor Bruce Elfstrom says an SUV can not be driven like a car.

"By accounting for how this vehicle behaves in bad situations which you will learn here, you can adapt that to your on-road driving," says Elfstrom.

Classes start with understanding vehicle components such as suspension, tires and the center of gravity. All can contribute to rollovers.

"You start sliding and people try to correct. If you correct before that body has rolled to its maximum then once you correct it snaps back and goes over," says Elfstrom.

It didn't take me long to experience how easy it is to almost tip over.

Most SUV's top heavy designs makes them tougher to control.

Elfstrom says the best solution to safer SUV's is education.

Elfstrom says,"My most common email is how much better their on road driving has gotten."

But, Doctor Brewer wants to hold auto makers more accountable.

Dr. Brewer says,"The National Highway Transportation Safety Agency and Congress through legislation to require much greater safety in SUV design and construction."


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1 posted on 03/03/2004 12:10:09 PM PST by ambrose
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To: ambrose
A government mandated course on how to drive an SUV, and a five day "cooling off" period before you purchase one are coming to a town near you!
2 posted on 03/03/2004 12:12:37 PM PST by nobody_knows (<a href="http://http://www.michaelmoore.com/" target="_blank">moral coward)
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To: ambrose
How about drivers using common sense. Oh, I forgot, it's all the SUV's fault, no matter what the driver does.
3 posted on 03/03/2004 12:13:26 PM PST by codyjacksmom
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To: ambrose
My SUV is trying to kill me....I just know it is. It stops talking to the other cars whenever I walk into the garage.
4 posted on 03/03/2004 12:15:28 PM PST by clintonh8r (Vietnam veteran against John Kerry.)
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To: ambrose
Can't disagree with the idea of getting to know a vehicle and its potential.

Most uninformed drivers tend to ignore vehicle input/feedback and don't realize the weight and energy a moving vehicle has.

The most common misperception I've seen is 'because it has "4WD" it does everything better'.

Bulletin to AJ/Mario/Dale wannabies: It don't stop any faster.
5 posted on 03/03/2004 12:24:09 PM PST by kahoutek ((A conservative is a liberal who's been mugged))
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To: ambrose
Elfstrom says,"My most common email is how much better their on road driving has gotten."

The same could be said for the graduates of any driving school.

6 posted on 03/03/2004 12:24:28 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Help, my SUV has fallen and can't get up.)
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To: Professional Engineer
"The same could be said for the graduates of any driving school"

Amen. #1 Daughter attended Skip Barber at Lime Rock when she waas 18 and still talks about it. When she realized the mass of what she was in/out of control was, her insight to vehicular physics changed...drastically.

7 posted on 03/03/2004 12:29:33 PM PST by kahoutek ((A conservative is a liberal who's been mugged))
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To: ambrose
Car companies are reinventing the "Station Wagon" was fast as possible. Have you seen the new Ford Explorer, and how low to the ground it has become? SUV's as they were are quickly becoming dinosaurs.
8 posted on 03/03/2004 12:29:54 PM PST by devane617
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To: kahoutek
Good for you for sending her! I've always wanted to attend either the Skip Barber or Bob Bondurant driving schools. Bob's book is very good reading.

I spent 8 years driving these for the USAF. Talk about changing vehicle dynamics and center of gravity!


9 posted on 03/03/2004 12:34:33 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Help, my SUV has fallen and can't get up.)
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To: clintonh8r
I think the socialists are trying to kill the SUV. Why?

People don't know how to drive SUV's? Crap! We drove Cadillacs for years before owning an SUV. No one in our family needed SUV driving lessons and none ever turned one over. Get a life you SUV haters.

10 posted on 03/03/2004 12:34:33 PM PST by BARLF
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To: devane617
They could resort to hydraulic lifts for off-road and normal clearance for highways with some suspension modifications.
11 posted on 03/03/2004 12:39:22 PM PST by Old Professer
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To: ambrose
"There are three times as many rollover deaths in SUV's as there are in traditional cars,"

So what.

"So putting your family in one of those vehicles is actually putting them at greater risk."

No it's not. If you load them up in a Geo Metro and if it gets whacked, I'll gaurantee those in my Explorer have a better chance of walking away.

"They feel safer and so they're less likely to drive safely and less likely to wear seat belts."

Whether I wear a seatbelt or not isn't anyone's damn business. I wear it, but the law on it sucks. As for 'less likely to drive safely, where the hell is your proof Doc?

And his concerns are backed up by national numbers that show in 2003 36 percent of fatal SUV accidents involved rollovers, compared to only 4 percent of fatal crashes involving vans and passenger cars.

There's lies, damn lies, and statistics. Rollovers are ONE type of crash. That's it. How about comparing rear end collissions?

"By accounting for how this vehicle behaves in bad situations which you will learn here, you can adapt that to your on-road driving," says Elfstrom.

Thanks, but I'll trust my own experience. I've driven SUV's off and on since I was 15, and owned once since I was 19.

It didn't take me long to experience how easy it is to almost tip over.

Don't take sharpe curves. C'mon that's obvious.

Dr. Brewer says,"The National Highway Transportation Safety Agency and Congress through legislation to require much greater safety in SUV design and construction."

This is as f'ing stupid as the gun lawsuit jokers.

12 posted on 03/03/2004 12:41:46 PM PST by Dan from Michigan (""....but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America"")
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To: nobody_knows
And lawsuits against gun I mean auto makers.
13 posted on 03/03/2004 12:42:07 PM PST by Dan from Michigan (""....but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America"")
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To: devane617
I should get my dad's 79 Bronco...THAT'S an SUV.
14 posted on 03/03/2004 12:43:15 PM PST by Dan from Michigan (""....but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America"")
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To: ambrose
SUVs are eevil.
15 posted on 03/03/2004 12:43:21 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Dan from Michigan
"Don't take sharp curves fast"
16 posted on 03/03/2004 12:44:21 PM PST by Dan from Michigan (""....but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America"")
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To: Old Professer
"...They could resort to hydraulic lifts for offload and normal clearance for highways with some suspension modifications."

You make an interesting point. That is that all the professionals that need SUV's for their work, farmers, etc, are the ones that may get hurt by the changes. Those that need SUV's have seen prices go up dramatically and offload abilities drop. My family farms, and it is interesting to hear them discuss what soccer moms have done to farm vehicles.
17 posted on 03/03/2004 12:47:30 PM PST by devane617
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To: Dan from Michigan
I agree about getting the 79 Bronco. Now that is and SUV! My dad drove K5 Blazers back in the mid 60's when they first cam out. Had very little suspension, and were real kidney busters. I would love to see the local posers drive one of those things.
18 posted on 03/03/2004 12:50:45 PM PST by devane617
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To: devane617
Of course, the answer to this madness is easy. Repeal the CAFE laws.

Then, soccer moms and families could have big, comfortable, safe station wagons and family cars, and farmers could have their farm capable SUV's.

Of course, that will never happen.

(putting on flame resistant underwear now)

19 posted on 03/03/2004 12:52:14 PM PST by cc2k
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To: cc2k
(putting on flame resistant underwear now)

Why? You've hit the nail on the head.

20 posted on 03/03/2004 12:55:16 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Help, my SUV has fallen and can't get up.)
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