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Eric Leonard was reporting that the state is considering outlawing the Diebold touch screen system because it can be easily hacked. That's millions of dollars down the drain for San Diego county.
1 posted on 03/02/2004 9:30:20 AM PST by Cinnamon Girl
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San Diego county, which invested millions in the Diebold touch screen computer system, is having problems with screens freezing up or computers being completely inoperable.

Must be the new "tallying" program they installed locally.

Becki

2 posted on 03/02/2004 9:35:06 AM PST by Becki (Pray continually for our leaders and our troops!)
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That's millions of dollars down the drain for San Diego county.

They don't care, its only taxpayer money.
5 posted on 03/02/2004 9:41:50 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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Someone who voted today told me his ink spots were outside the circles...

How did they end up outside the circles?

6 posted on 03/02/2004 9:42:48 AM PST by EllaMinnow (The best days of America lie ahead GWB 2/23/04)
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This is real interesting since WA state is eventually going to graduate to these touch screens.
8 posted on 03/02/2004 9:45:05 AM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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The Demonrats were the ones pushing for this system, right?

The Demonrats have just disenfranchised the Republican voters. I demand reparations!!!!
9 posted on 03/02/2004 9:45:21 AM PST by Chewbacca ("Turn off your machines! Walk off your jobs! Power to the People!" - The Ice Pirates)
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In Westminister and other parts of Orange County, voters are typing in the voting pin numbers and ONLY Democrat ballots are popping up.

Fraud!

Inquiry!

Recount!

Civil Rights Violations!

10 posted on 03/02/2004 9:46:28 AM PST by atomicpossum (I wish I had time for a nervous breakdown.)
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JFKerry was sure downplaying expectations this morning.
13 posted on 03/02/2004 9:48:19 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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It really seems that the punch card chad system was fine and good and there was no reason to revamp the system. With a punch card, there is physical evidence of the vote, and the voter can check to see that only the holes are punched out that they want. What was wrong with that?

The problem was the the politicos wanted to take more of the tax payers money for this bull sh*t. It's cost us multiple millions for something that was not even needed.

Big government just gets bigger.

17 posted on 03/02/2004 10:00:48 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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For what it's worth, it worked just fine for me here. At least the voting process worked. As far as the tallying...we'll see.
19 posted on 03/02/2004 10:07:15 AM PST by RichInOC (...never had problems with the punchcards...maybe Palm Beach should have used O.C.'s system.)
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just voted in North San Diego county with the touchscreen. All went well.
20 posted on 03/02/2004 10:09:23 AM PST by conservcalgal ((I've been here since 1967 and I'm not leaving!!!!!!!))
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In Westminister and other parts of Orange County, voters are typing in the voting pin numbers and ONLY Democrat ballots are popping up.

Quelle coincidence.
22 posted on 03/02/2004 10:17:10 AM PST by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I shall defend to the death your right to stick it)
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"In Westminister and other parts of Orange County, voters are typing in the voting pin numbers and ONLY Democrat ballots are popping up."

Oh, dear...and here all along I thought it was we evil Republicans that stole elections.

I mean unless you count Detroit...and Chicago...and New York...and Portland...and Florida...and San Diego.
23 posted on 03/02/2004 10:17:46 AM PST by Henrietta
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The Inka-Voting system in my precinct is pretty familiar. Its a high tech version of the familiar punch card system used for decades. Instead of punching out a chad with the stylus, you ink your choice in. By the way, turnout where I live was light compared to last October. People are bored and it looks like turnout will set a new low for a California primary election. People think nothing much is going to change and they're right, it won't.
24 posted on 03/02/2004 10:20:40 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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I heard that too and some people seemed to be having problems at my precinct.

That said I breezed through quickly.
28 posted on 03/02/2004 10:25:33 AM PST by NathanR (California Si! Aztlan NO!)
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Before Riverside Co., Ca got their electronic voting machines, we had ink dabbers to mark the paper ballots. Worked just fine then...the electronic machines really are wonderfully easy though. You would think they [San Diego]could have gotten for the price of some pizza and pepsi's, some high school geeks in there to fix the problem. Probably would have ferreted out said problems and had them solved in one day.

Red

29 posted on 03/02/2004 10:31:49 AM PST by Conservative4Ever (EVIL.......thy name is Hillary)
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Welp, I just voted touchscreen.

The process went painlessly enough (although why is it poll workers invariably feel compelled to make SOME dumba$$ statement as you're signing in).

So now I'm sporting an "I VOTED TOUCHSCREEN" sticker. Yet it feels like a sign reading "KICK ME".
31 posted on 03/02/2004 10:41:54 AM PST by martin_fierro ("If there's one thing we actors know, it's ... er, what do we know again?")
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KFI's reporter Eric Leonard was reporting various problems at polling places around CA, this morning. San Diego county, which invested millions in the Diebold touch screen computer system, is having problems with screens freezing up or computers being completely inoperable.

From what I saw when I tried to vote this morning, the voting software was not even installed.

32 posted on 03/02/2004 10:43:12 AM PST by Poohbah ("Would you mind not shooting at the thermonuclear weapons?" -- Maj. Vic Deakins, USAF)
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California rushed this project, with little concern for its accuracy or security. I posted this at FR several weeks ago.
California seeks to improve electronic-voting security
Mercury News ^ | Feb. 05, 2004 | Elise Ackerman
Posted on 02/07/2004 12:57:48 AM PST by calcowgirl

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California Secretary of State Kevin Shelley on Thursday announced measures to improve election security in the wake of a report describing how votes can be easily manipulated by hacking into an electronic voting system used across California. One in four California voters, including those in Alameda County, are expected to cast ballots in next month's presidential primary on electronic voting systems made by Diebold Election Systems. Last week, computer scientists hired by the state of Maryland to hack its Diebold voting system announced they had successfully changed vote tallies on touch-screen voting machines, altered ballots and seized control of a central vote-counting computer.

Read more at blackboxvoting.com
33 posted on 03/02/2004 10:43:39 AM PST by calcowgirl (No on Propositions 55, 56, 57, 58)
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Here in No. Orange Co. we had computer screens where you spun a dial to highlight in red who you wanted to vote for, then pressed "enter." It made me quite nervous not to have some sort of backup paper copy. There was also not the usual privacy. In the past we had the cardboard booths with plastic garbage bag curtain (casual, but worked great!) - today I could look over fairly easily and watch my husband voting. Weird.

We have previously always voted punch card here in O.C., and the rectangles punch out with such force I don't think a hanging chad would be possible! (Grin) I really think they jumped in to this new voting system without looking at the ramifications. Reminds me of when the local schools changed to a really stupid and uninformative numeric grading system (virtually all children qualified for a passing "3," whether they were at C or A grade level), and when my husband and others complained to the school board, the "powers that be" patted the "people" on the head and ignored their concerns, which were very obvious to any "man (or woman) on the street." Three years later, they changed the grading system because of the very concerns expressed by my husband. Long story short, I think the same thing will happen with this electronic voting -- all of us are saying "But what about hacking? security? fraud?" and I'm expecting by the 2008 Presidential election we're going to finally hear "Uh, yeah, this new system has some problems..." But meanwhile what damage will be done?
37 posted on 03/02/2004 10:59:03 AM PST by GOPrincess
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Here in No. Orange Co. we had computer screens where you spun a dial to highlight in red who you wanted to vote for, then pressed "enter." It made me quite nervous not to have some sort of backup paper copy. There was also not the usual privacy. In the past we had the cardboard booths with plastic garbage bag curtain (casual, but worked great!) - today I could look over fairly easily and watch my husband voting. Weird.

We have previously always voted punch card here in O.C., and the rectangles punch out with such force I don't think a hanging chad would be possible! (Grin) I really think they jumped in to this new voting system without looking at the ramifications. Reminds me of when the local schools changed to a really stupid and uninformative numeric grading system (virtually all children qualified for a passing "3," whether they were at C or A grade level), and when my husband and others complained to the school board, the "powers that be" patted the "people" on the head and ignored their concerns, which were very obvious to any "man (or woman) on the street." Three years later, they changed the grading system because of the very concerns expressed by my husband. Long story short, I think the same thing will happen with this electronic voting -- all of us are saying "But what about hacking? security? fraud?" and I'm expecting by the 2008 Presidential election we're going to finally hear "Uh, yeah, this new system has some problems..." But meanwhile what damage will be done?
38 posted on 03/02/2004 10:59:03 AM PST by GOPrincess
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