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Guard Units Alerted For Iraq Duty (2 March, 04)
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Posted on 03/02/2004 5:01:25 AM PST by Happy2BMe

Guard Units Alerted For Iraq Duty
Associated Press
March 2, 2004

WASHINGTON - About 18,000 National Guard soldiers from four major units have gone on alert for likely deployment to late this year or in early 2005, the Pentagon said Monday.

The announcement underscores the deepening involvement of Guard and Reserve forces in U.S.-led efforts to quell the insurgency in Iraq and stabilize the country. So far 45 Guard and Reserve members have been killed in action in Iraq and 42 more have died of nonhostile causes.

The Guard units alerted are the 42nd Infantry Division headquarters from the New York National Guard, the 256th Infantry Brigade from Louisiana, the 116th Cavalry Brigade from Idaho and Oregon, and the 278th Armored Cavalry Regiment from Tennessee.

They will be mobilized over the next several months to conduct training before their new assignment, the Pentagon said.

The 42nd Infantry Division from New York will be the first National Guard division headquarters to serve in Iraq; other Guard division headquarters have served in the Balkans in recent years.

With receipt of the alert notices, members of those units are prevented from leaving the service until 90 days after their mobilization ends.

The Pentagon did not say how long they would be on active duty, suggesting it may be less than the 12-month tours required of Guard and Reserve members now in Iraq and of those heading to Iraq this spring. Under the presidential authority used to mobilize for Iraq, they could be kept on active duty for up to two years.

The Guardsmen will be part of a larger force, probably totaling about 100,000 active duty and reserve troops, that is expected to take over for the contingent just beginning a one-year tour in Iraq.

The length of their mobilization depends on how much training they need as well as the requirements of the Central Command commander, Gen. John Abizaid, who manages the Iraq operation.

The Pentagon said additional Guard forces will be alerted and mobilized for Iraq duty, but did not say how many or from which states. Officials said these probably would be combat support and service support units that will be mobilized after the combat units go on active duty.

The 278th Armored Cavalry Regiment from Tennessee has about 4,500 members, and at least 4,000 of them have been placed on alert, according to Tennessee Guard spokesman Randy Harris. They include three cavalry squadrons, headquartered in Athens, Kingsport and Cookeville, as well as a support squadron based in Knoxville. Harris said the 278th has not been mobilized for active duty since the Korean War, more than 50 years ago.

The Louisiana Guard's 256th Infantry Brigade, with about 3,800 soldiers, received its alert order Monday, said Dusty Shenofsky, spokeswoman for the state adjutant general's office. She said the brigade was on active duty most recently during the 1991 Gulf War.

The affected units include the 1st battalion of the 156th Armor in Shreveport, the 2nd battalion of the 156th Infantry in Abbeville, and the 3rd battalion of the 156th Infantry in Lake Charles.

"The folks in these units will need to start letting their civilian employers know," Shenofsky said. "They will also want to start doing things like making sure their medical records are up to date, making sure they have wills and arranging for child care if they are single parents."

The 116th Armored Brigade, with units in Idaho and Oregon, includes Oregon's 3rd battalion of the 116th Cavalry, headquartered in La Grande, as well as elements of the 1st battalion of the 82nd Cavalry, at Bend.

Spokeswoman Kay Frystad said the Oregon Guard already has 1,700 soldiers on active duty for Iraq, including 700 from an infantry battalion that is about to enter Iraq. Monday's alert notification affects an additional 700 from Oregon, she said, although they are not yet on active duty.

The alert order applies to approximately 1,000 soldiers with the 42nd Infantry Division headquarters in Troy, N.Y., said Scott Sandman a spokesman for New York's division of military and naval affairs.

The alerts were issued well in advance in order to give the Guard members adequate time to prepare for the likelihood of being mobilized. Many Guardsmen and some members of Congress complained that earlier mobilizations for Iraq came with little notice.

The Pentagon is relying heavily upon Guard and Reserve troops in Iraq.

Three Guard brigades - from Arkansas, North Carolina and Washington state - are part of the current troop rotation, which is in midcourse. They will spend a full year in Iraq, to be replaced by the newly alerted Guard units, if the Pentagon's current projection of troop requirements remains steady.



TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: armynationalguard; callups; guard; iraq; military; oif2; reserves; rotation
Historic deployments of the Guard and Reserve continues.
1 posted on 03/02/2004 5:01:26 AM PST by Happy2BMe
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To: Happy2BMe
I fail to see how this much deployment of Reserves and National Guard can continue over a period of time. Would not a better solution be an expansion of the active duty military? Picking personnel that have become established with their families and jobs or businesses in civilian life for duty as active military seems like abusing their obligations to me.
2 posted on 03/02/2004 5:16:49 AM PST by meenie
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To: meenie
At the same time the Army is being overtaxed to police Iraq, the USAF will be downsizing it's manning by 167,000 over the next 18 months.

Go figure.

3 posted on 03/02/2004 5:31:19 AM PST by Happy2BMe (U.S.A. - - United We Stand - - Divided We Fall - - Support Our Troops - - Vote BUSH)
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To: Happy2BMe
We know that this cannot be going as Soldiers.

W know this, because, according to the Gospel of that Great Sage and Orator, The one and Only Senator John F.[fill in the blank] Kerry that members of the National Guard are not real Soldiers.

The above was saracasm.
4 posted on 03/02/2004 5:39:22 AM PST by sport
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To: meenie
The total size of the Guard and Reserve is roughly a half million soldiers. Seems to me we could keep 50,000 to 100,000 on duty basically indefinately -- well, we can do it for at least another 2-3 years while we see if the current missions are a plateau or a spike.

This is a real hardship for some reservists and they'll want to get out to stay away from this duty. But for many other others (including me) there's a real appeal to being in the Guard and helping with real-world wartime missions.

Some people have never liked the Guard and Reserve concept very much and they want to take our missions away -- you find this attitude among some active duty folks. I think that's a mistake.
5 posted on 03/02/2004 6:18:58 AM PST by 68skylark
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To: 68skylark
The mission of the guard and reserves is the defense of our nation as and when needed. Stationing them around the world as peacekeeping forces is not an emergency status. I find it incomprehensible that we leave the domestic duties of insuring our borders are guarded unused. Any reasonable person would have to wonder how long we are going to avoid an attack within our borders if we give the terrorists time and open access.
6 posted on 03/02/2004 7:37:04 AM PST by meenie
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To: meenie
Your home page seems to say you've had a 13E MOS (fire direction controller). Me too! That's very cool. In fact, I've been re-studying my "charts and darts" just last week.

Personally, I'm very happy to see the Guard and Reserve stepping up to the plate to help with overseas missions. Since only 40,000 or so are deployed overseas at any one time, that still leaves another 450,000 Guard and Reserve troops behind for homeland defense. That should be enough for whatever homeland missions come up.
7 posted on 03/02/2004 7:48:17 AM PST by 68skylark
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To: meenie; SJackson; MeekOneGOP; dennisw; autoresponder; Sabertooth; B4Ranch; Salem
Ping on #6
8 posted on 03/02/2004 10:17:38 AM PST by Happy2BMe (U.S.A. - - United We Stand - - Divided We Fall - - Support Our Troops - - Vote BUSH)
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To: 68skylark; meenie; Spiff; JackelopeBreeder
"Since only 40,000 or so are deployed overseas at any one time, that still leaves another 450,000 Guard and Reserve troops behind for homeland defense."

How many of those 450K are being used to repel the migrant invasion from Mexico?

That threat for the majority poses every bit as real a danger to the survival of this country as we know it as terrorists blowing up buildings and killing people in N.Y.C.

9 posted on 03/02/2004 10:20:51 AM PST by Happy2BMe (U.S.A. - - United We Stand - - Divided We Fall - - Support Our Troops - - Vote BUSH)
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To: sport
I'm sure that the Guard and Reserve members who have been in Iraq or Kuwait for almost a year or more would not agree with this statement..
10 posted on 03/02/2004 10:23:48 AM PST by pnz1
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To: meenie; Happy2BMe; MeekOneGOP; Travis McGee


The Reserves and National Guard volunteered to join the military.

No draft, no forced service.

They knew their obligations when they signed on the dotted line.

Reserves and National Guard are not a freevie college tuition program.



Businesses and families are no exemption.





11 posted on 03/02/2004 10:34:41 AM PST by autoresponder (JAMES BOND: http://00access.tripod.com/007.html J-FK: http://00access.tripod.com/Kerry-11.html)
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To: pnz1
Me too my friend but I did not make it.

Your arguement is with john f. kerry and terry mcaufle.

12 posted on 03/02/2004 10:48:41 AM PST by sport
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To: autoresponder
Agree on the "college freebie" programs.

However, there are Guard units now fully mobilized that have not been fully deployed since WWII.

Many people are not aware of this.

13 posted on 03/02/2004 11:03:26 AM PST by Happy2BMe (U.S.A. - - United We Stand - - Divided We Fall - - Support Our Troops - - Vote BUSH)
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To: sport
I didn't mean to direct the comment at you. I saw the "sarcasm" at the end of your post...
14 posted on 03/02/2004 12:00:12 PM PST by pnz1
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To: Happy2BMe; MeekOneGOP; Ragtime Cowgirl; Alamo-Girl; Mia T; dixiechick2000; nopardons; ntnychik; ...


More will be deployed


WWII had several national enemies


Well defined targets with visible leaders


We now face a shadow cowardly evil cult


This with no draft and with an opposing political party in America that trades on lies and corruption and traitorous statements and acts


We still have troops in Europe and the Far East as a result of WWII


We have no "exit date" from Korea from democrats from Truman to JFK to Clinton to Kerry


We face an insane murderous cult that is devouring European countries that cannot produce 1.1 children per 2 parents


We face an insane murderous cult that is intent on taking over the USA from within and ruling America with Islamic tyranny


We can fight abroad or we can fight on Main Street and in our Public Schools and colleges and Congress


We actually are doing both now


It will get worse and require extreme and resolute action


The agenda is to destroy Christians and Jews

We have become a nation of weaklings and panderers and turncoats like Dean and Kerry and Clinton and algore

There is only one solution, but I see none willing to be brave enough to state it


Well, there is Ann Coulter....
15 posted on 03/02/2004 1:19:32 PM PST by autoresponder (JAMES BOND: http://00access.tripod.com/007.html J-FK: http://00access.tripod.com/Kerry-11.html)
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To: Happy2BMe

16 posted on 03/02/2004 1:42:34 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (The Democrats believe in CHOICE. I have chosen to vote STRAIGHT TICKET GOP for years !!)
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To: autoresponder; MeekOneGOP
"We can fight abroad or we can fight on Main Street and in our Public Schools and colleges and Congress."

How about Baltimore, Maryland, USA for starters . .

Muslims lobby to close schools on sacred days

17 posted on 03/02/2004 4:49:28 PM PST by Happy2BMe (U.S.A. - - United We Stand - - Divided We Fall - - Support Our Troops - - Vote BUSH)
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