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Drudge:RUMSFELD: ARISTIDE WAS NOT ABDUCTED; SIGNED LETTER OF RESIGNATION
Drudge Report ^ | March 1, 2004 | Matt Drudge

Posted on 03/01/2004 10:49:18 AM PST by nickcarraway

RUMSFELD: ARISTIDE WAS NOT ABDUCTED; SIGNED LETTER OF RESIGNATION


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: denial; dod; haiti; kidap; resignation; rumsfeld
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1 posted on 03/01/2004 10:49:20 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
Huh?
2 posted on 03/01/2004 10:49:56 AM PST by ConservativeMan55 (You...You sit down! You've had your say and now I'll have mine!!!!)
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To: nickcarraway
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1088428/posts
3 posted on 03/01/2004 10:52:01 AM PST by oceanview
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To: nickcarraway
Good. Maybe this will put an end to the rumors.

GWB Team need to put out these kinds of rumor fires fast(er).
4 posted on 03/01/2004 10:53:39 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: ConservativeMan55
Full story here...

http://www.local10.com/news/2886191/detail.html
5 posted on 03/01/2004 10:54:03 AM PST by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire with meetings, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: nickcarraway
Just posting THIS as counterpoint.

Gee...do we believe the Maxine Waters and other libs, or do we believe Rumsfeld. Yep...that's a real tough one....

6 posted on 03/01/2004 10:54:25 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: nickcarraway
No one wants to state the obvious. I would bet that every black member of Congress took kickbacks from Aristide, and their income source has now been cut off, and they are pissed about it.
7 posted on 03/01/2004 10:55:06 AM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: nickcarraway
We made Aristide an offer he could not refuse.
8 posted on 03/01/2004 10:55:40 AM PST by Uncle Hal
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To: ConservativeMan55; All
Its been all over Pacific Radio since yesterday that Aristede has been claiming that the U.S. kidnapped him and forced him to leave. In DEMOCRACY NOW there is an article saying that Aristede called Maxine Waters and said he was kidnapped.

PRESIDENT ARISTIDE SAYS 'I WAS KIDNAPPED' 'TELL THE WORLD IT IS A COUP'

Multiple sources that just spoke with Haitian President Jean-Bertrand Aristide told Democracy Now! that Aristide says he was "kidnapped" and taken by force to the Central African Republic. Congressmember Maxine Waters said she received a call from Aristide at 9am EST. "He's surrounded by military. It's like he is in jail, he said. He says he was kidnapped," said Waters. She said he had been threatened by what he called US diplomats. According to Waters, the diplomats reportedly told the Haitian president that if he did not leave Haiti, paramilitary leader Guy Philippe would storm the palace and Aristide would be killed. According to Waters, Aristide was told by the US that they were withdrawing Aristide's US security.

TransAfrica founder and close Aristide family friend Randall Robinson also received a call from the Haitian president early this morning and confirmed Waters account. Robinson said that Aristide "emphatically" denied that he had resigned. "He did not resign," he said. "He was abducted by the United States in the commission of a coup." Robinson says he spoke to Aristide on a cell phone that was smuggled to the Haitian president.

Developing... RUSH TRANSCRIPT

MAXINE WATERS: ?it?s like in jail, he said. He said that he was kidnapped; he said that he was forced to leave Haiti. He said that the American embassy sent the diplomats; he referred to them as, to his home where they was lead by Mr. Moreno. And I believe that Mr. Moreno is a deputy chief of staff at the embassy in Haiti and other diplomats, and they ordered him to leave. They said you must go NOW. He said that they said that Guy Phillipe and U.S. Marines were coming to Port Au Prince; he will be killed, many Haitians will be killed, that they would not stop until they did what they wanted to do. He was there with his with Mildred and his brother-in-law and two of his security people, and somebody from the Steel Foundation, and they?re all, there?s five of them that are there. They took them where they did stop in Antigua then they stopped at a military base, then they were in the air for hours and then they arrived at this place and they were met by five ministers of government. It?s a Francophone country they speak French. And they were then taken to this place called the Palace of the Renaissance where they are being held and they are surrounded by military people. They are not free to do whatever they want to do. Then the phone clicked off after we had talked for about five?we talked maybe fifteen minutes and then the phone clicked off. But he, some of it was muffled in the beginning, at times it was clear. But one thing that was very clear and he said it over and over again, that he was kidnapped that the coup was completed by the Americans that they forced him out. They had also disabled his American security force that he had around him for months now; they did not allow them to extend their numbers. To begin with they wanted them to bring in more people to provide security they prevented them from doing that and then they finally forced them out of the country. So that?s where his is and I said to him that I would do everything I could to get the word out. ?that I heard it directly from him I heard it directly from his wife that they were kidnapped, they were forced to leave, they did not want to leave, their lives were threatened and the lives of many Haitians were threatened. And I said that we would be in touch with the State Department, with the President today and if at all possible we would try to get to him. We don?t know whether or not he is going to be moved. We will try and find that information out today.

AMY GOODMAN: Did President Aristide say whether or not he resigned?

MAXINE WATERS: He did not resign. He said he was forced out, that the coup was completed.

AMY GOODMAN: So again to summarize, Congress member Maxine Waters, you have just gotten off the phone with President Jean Bertrand Aristide, who said he believes he is in the Central African Republic.

MAXINE WATERS: That?s right, with French speaking officers, he?s surrounded by them and he?s in this place called the Palace of the Renaissance and he was forced to go there. They took him there.

AMY GOODMAN: What are you going to do right now?

MAXINE WATERS: I?m going to get to the State Dept to find out what do they plan on doing with him. Do they plan on leaving him there or are they planning on taking him to another country? We are going to tell them we would like to see him. We are prepared to go where he is NOW and that we are demanding that we are able to see him and go where he is. And to negotiate what will be done with him.

AMY GOODMAN: Did he describe how he was taken out? We had heard reports in Haiti that he was taken out in handcuffs. Did he?

MAXINE WATERS: No he did not say he was taken out in handcuffs. He simply said that they came led by Mr. Moreno followed by the marines and they said simply ?you have to go!? You have no choice, you must go and if you don?t you will be killed and many Haitians will be killed. We are planning with Mr. De filliped to come into Puerto Rico. He will not be alone he will come with American military and you will not survive, you will be killed. You?ve got to go now!

AMY GOODMAN: How did President Aristide sound? What was the quality of his voice?

MAXINE WATERS: The quality of his voice was anxious, angry, disturbed, wanting people to know the truth.

AMY GOODMAN: Did he say why he had not made any calls since early on Sunday morning; that people had not been in touch with him for more than 36 hours. Certainly this plane was equipped with a telephone?

MAXINE WATERS: OH, I don?t think they were able to make any calls from the plane. They were only allowed to make calls once they landed. And I think the only call that they had made was to her mother who is in Florida and her brother. But they were not allowed?they had no access to telephone calls? to a telephone on the plane.

AMY GOODMAN: What is the next step?what are you going to do? What do you think the people in this country should being doing about this situation in Haiti?

MAXINE WATERS: First of all I think the people in this country should be outraged that our government led a coup de?tat against a democratically elected President. They should call, write. Fax with their outrage, not only to the State Dept. but to all of their elected officials and to the press. We have to keep the information flying in the air so people will get it and understand what is taking place. And for those of us who are elected officials we must not only get to the President, we must demand that he is returned to claim his presidency if that is what he wants. If you can recall what happened in Venezuela when Mr. Chavez was?they tried to force him out and they had someone step into the presidency and he had not resigned his presidency and he got it back. I did not have that conversation with President Aristide but we must meet with him and we must talk with him and be prepared to protect him.

AMY GOODMAN: Congress member Maxine Waters I want to thank you for being with us again. Congress member Waters has just spoken with President Aristide who she says said he was kidnapped and is now with his wife and surrounded by security in the Central African Republic.

THERE YOU GO THE WORD OF TWO NUTJOBS!

9 posted on 03/01/2004 10:55:59 AM PST by areafiftyone (Democrats = the hamster is dead but the wheel is still spinning)
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To: nickcarraway

RUMSFELD: ARISTIDE WAS NOT ABDUCTED; SIGNED LETTER OF RESIGNATION



[Drudge even brought out the flasher for this news.]
10 posted on 03/01/2004 10:56:35 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Pukin Dog
Michael Corleone: My father made him an offer he couldn't refuse.
Kay Adams: What was that?
Michael Corleone: Luca Brasi, held a gun to his head, and my father assured him, that either his brain or his signature would be on the contract.

>>>>I kinda like the whole Marines gave him a push side story though.
11 posted on 03/01/2004 10:57:08 AM PST by Pikamax
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To: Pukin Dog
No one wants to state the obvious. I would bet that every black member of Congress took kickbacks from Aristide, and their income source has now been cut off, and they are pissed about it.

It's far worse than that. They supported Aristide because he's a black man, and they're pissed about this because Aristide is a black man.

They care not a bit that Haiti is a sh*thole.

12 posted on 03/01/2004 10:57:16 AM PST by r9etb
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To: nickcarraway
Pure election year drivel. The libs will eat it up and we will soon see it as a fact written into the nightly "news" reports.
13 posted on 03/01/2004 10:57:20 AM PST by PeteFromMontana (Admin Moderators are my friend.......)
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To: areafiftyone

If he is stating he was kidnapped, then, bring him back and set him off at the waters edge. Enough is enough, our President should not have to listen to this mess.
Maybe maxine Waters would like to hold his hand when they set him off.
14 posted on 03/01/2004 10:59:30 AM PST by fabriclady
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To: nickcarraway
Another Drudge link:




http://www.local10.com/news/2886191/detail.html

Aristide's Lawyer Claims He Has Word President Was Forcefully Removed

Lawyers Account Differs From Administration's Story

POSTED: 12:57 pm EST March 1, 2004
UPDATED: 1:50 pm EST March 1, 2004

Two different stories are being told today about how Jean-Bertrand Aristide left Haiti.

On the one side is Rep. Maxine Waters of California, a strong supporter of Aristide and Haitian democracy, who, according to Aristide's attorney Ira Kurzban, had a cell-phone conversation with Aristide about how he left office. On the other side is the administration of George W. Bush, which reports that Aristide resigned and left of his own will.


15 posted on 03/01/2004 11:01:36 AM PST by TomGuy
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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2004/03/01/international1341EST0642.DTL


U.S. activist claims Aristide kidnapped at gunpoint by U.S. troops

Monday, March 1, 2004







(03-01) 10:41 PST BASSETERRE, St. Kitts and Nevis (AP) --

An African-American activist says former Haitian President Jean-Bertrand Aristide telephoned him Monday to say that he was kidnapped at gunpoint by American soldiers and ousted by in U.S. coup d'etat.

Aristide said he was being held prisoner at the Renaissance Palace in Bangui, Central African Republic, said Randall Robinson.

The United States has said that it facilitated Aristide's departure at his request. White House spokesman Scott McClellan called the claim "complete nonsense."

"It was Mr. Aristide's decision to resign," he said.

Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld also said the Haitian leader left the country of his own accord.

"The idea that someone was abducted is just totally inconsistent with everything I heard or saw," Rumsfeld said.

Robinson spawned the series of denials be saying Aristide was a coup victim.

"He asked that I tell the word that it is a coup. That he was abducted by American soldiers and put aboard a plane," said Robinson, the founder and former president of the TransAfrica lobbying forum in Washington D.C. Robinson currently lives on the Caribbean island of St. Kitts.

Robinson said Aristide claimed he was being held prisoner in the Central African Republic at a building surrounded by soldiers.

There were indeed soldiers around the palace where Aristide is staying in Bangui.

The Central African Republic's government on Monday released a video showing Aristide descending from the plane. There were no military present and Aristide looked tired, but not scared.

A Caribbean official who said Aristide called him from a refueling stop in Antigua said only that Aristide had said he was heading to South Africa. The official did not mention any claim that Aristide had been kidnapped.

Aristide also did not say anything about the charges when he spoke in comments Monday broadcast on the Central African Republic's state radio.

Randall said Aristide called him from a cellular telephone that a sympathizer had given him.

He said Aristide said he was being held along with his wife, Mildred Trouillot Aristide, and his sister's husband.

16 posted on 03/01/2004 11:02:28 AM PST by Pikamax
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To: TomGuy
Good. Maybe this will put an end to the rumors.

I think you have some better grade stuff than I have. :)

17 posted on 03/01/2004 11:02:30 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: fabriclady
They should bring him back and let him stand in the middle of a Port Au Prince street and see how fast he wants to go back to Africa. He's dam lucky the U.S. came in to make sure he didn't get his butt killed.
18 posted on 03/01/2004 11:02:35 AM PST by areafiftyone (Democrats = the hamster is dead but the wheel is still spinning)
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To: Pukin Dog
Possible.

But how do you think the New York Times (and thus, the networks) will cover this?
19 posted on 03/01/2004 11:03:50 AM PST by hchutch (Why did the Nazgul bother running from Arwen's flash flood? They only managed to die tired.)
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To: areafiftyone
And the U.S. is damn foolish for going in. When will ever learn?
20 posted on 03/01/2004 11:04:54 AM PST by Austin Willard Wright
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