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1 posted on 03/01/2004 9:34:08 AM PST by xsysmgr
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What kind of ammunition would a hunter use to take down an animal that is about 300 pounds in weight? Say a 300 pound hog: Or a pygmy hippo: OR . . .
2 posted on 03/01/2004 9:41:02 AM PST by BenLurkin (Socialism is slavery.)
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To: bang_list
This was clearly written for a general audience so I suppose we can let the generalizations slide.
3 posted on 03/01/2004 9:41:38 AM PST by Fixit
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Fine tuning the errors (why didn't he get a gun geek to edit the piece?):

>>For example, in the movie Lethal Weapon 3, a so-called "Teflon bullet" from a medium-power handgun was supposedly able to penetrate several inches of hardened steel on a bulldozer blade.

Bulldozers don't use hardened steel, they use mild steel because it is tougher.

In the real world, however, no bullet could possibly perform such a stunt.

>>Also, reduced abrasion means that fewer tiny lead air particles are produced, so the air is cleaner — an especially important consideration at indoor shooting ranges.

Most bullets are copper jacketed (so any or this phantom "abrasion" would be copper particles.) Those who shoot old-fashioned lead slugs rarely use teflon, and no manufacturer sells a teflon coated lead slug that I am aware of.

>>The Teflon helps the bullet "grab" a hard surface such as glass or metal, and thus significantly reduces the risk of a dangerous ricochet.

Nonsense. Teflon reduces friction. The key is that hard steel and brass bullets that do "bite" into angled windshields and door panels need to be teflon coated to avoid barrel damage.

>>Similarly, canes or walking sticks are often coated with Teflon, so that they will not slip on hard, smooth surfaces.

Hard to believe.

It would be nice if our side would be scrupulously accurate on such accuracy-sensitive issues.
5 posted on 03/01/2004 11:43:12 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your Friendly Freeper Patent Attorney)
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To: xsysmgr
Kennedy claims that he is aiming at "cop-killer" bullets, but he appears to be badly misinformed on the issue.

Ya think?

8 posted on 03/01/2004 1:05:49 PM PST by MileHi
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...a so-called "Teflon bullet" from a medium-power handgun was supposedly able to penetrate several inches of hardened steel on a bulldozer blade. In the real world, however, no bullet could possibly perform such a stunt.

No handgun bullet. A .50 BMG AP round is designed to do just that.

9 posted on 03/01/2004 5:21:00 PM PST by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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Accordingly, the National Rifle Association and Representative Biaggi reached a compromise: Instead of a penetration standard (which would ban most rifle ammunition), a content standard was adopted. The sale or import of handgun ammunition with a significant amount of steel, titanium, or other metal core was outlawed. (The relevant federal regulation specifies that: "armor piercing ammunition" is a handgun bullet "constructed entirely" from " tungsten alloys, steel, iron, brass, bronze, beryllium copper, or depleted uranium," or with certain kinds of jackets on the bullet.) An important new protection in the compromise bill required that "armor-piercing ammunition" be so labeled. This prevented people from being prosecuted for the unwitting sale of the newly restricted ammunition. For example, some surplus ammunition imported from Czechoslovakia contained a solid core, rather than a lead core, because there had been a lead shortage in the Czechoslovakia when the ammunition was manufactured. Biaggi pronounced that the compromise achieved everything he had wanted from the original bill. The NRA spread the word that the vote for the compromise would not be scored as a "wrong" vote.

Another (in)famous NRA compromise. This one eventually resulted in the banning of imported ammunition with steel cores, because even though primarily a rifle rounds, there were a few pistols chambered for the round. This sort of thing would affect .223/5.56x45, .30 M1 Carbine, and 7.62x39, not even considering the Thompson Contender type of handgun, which adds a whole bunch more rifle calibers to the potential ban list.

10 posted on 03/01/2004 5:29:36 PM PST by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: xsysmgr

Thanks for posting this as I was about to do the same. Somehow, I missed it at that time.


11 posted on 05/29/2004 1:48:17 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: xsysmgr
Yawn.
Are they still trying to outlaw my illegal plastique tipped hot loads?
I guess they don't know about all my illegal nuclear tipped hot loads yet?
The ones I fire from my lethal .22 sniper rifle?
But I only ever fire them during the many wedding celebrations I attend in the Middle East! /sarcasm//

Do I hear helicopter rotors...
16 posted on 05/30/2004 11:35:29 PM PDT by sarasmom (Sometimes, I wish liberals had beliefs, so I could desecrate them. (spok))
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