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Terror suspect arrested in Canadian soldiers' deaths
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Posted on 02/20/2004 1:43:28 PM PST by albertabound

Terror suspect arrested in Canadian soldiers' deaths

Canadian Press

Ottawa — Canadian troops have captured a man they suspect laid the mines that killed two of their comrades in Afghanistan on Oct. 2, The Canadian Press has learned.

The arrest took place during raids Jan. 26 on two compounds near the main Canadian military base in Kabul, the Afghan capital. Less than 24 hours later, a suicide bomber killed another Canadian soldier, but military officials say the events are not linked.

The soldiers seized "a large quantity" of ordnance and explosives, including landmines, said military sources who spoke on condition of anonymity.

Several terrorist suspects were captured in the sweep, called Operation Whirlwind. Sources pointed to the seized materials and their proximity to the mine strike as partial evidence of complicity — along with hard-won intelligence.

One military source said the operation targeted a mine strike suspect and it nabbed the man it was aiming to get.

"They think they've got the guy," he said.

The suspect is believed to be a member of Hezb-e-Islami Gulbuddin, or HIG, described by Canadian officers as the third-largest terrorist organization in Afghanistan, after al-Qaeda and the Taliban.

In a statement from Kabul, Canadian Capt. Bernard Dionne of the Kabul Multi-National Brigade said that for reasons of operational security, officials "will not provide detailed information about these operations."

"And for their own safety, KMNB will not identify or provide details regarding individuals who are, or might be arrested during these operations — including details about their detention."

Senior sources said such operations, with protracted involvement of virtually the whole 650-member battalion group, are the result of painstaking intelligence work and careful planning.

"We don't do the strike unless we've done (our homework)," said one.

Machine guns, anti-tank weapons and rocket-propelled grenades were also seized in the raids, which were led by Kabul city police and Afghan National Directorate of Security personnel.

Senior sources said the operation went off without a hitch; no shots were fired and no one was injured.

Officials said the evidence was made available to Canadian investigators looking into the deaths of Sergeant Robert Short and Corporal Robbie Beerenfenger, killed when their jeep struck up to three anti-tank mines in a creek bed near their base.

Sixteen hours after the raids, early on Jan. 27, a suicide bomber walked up to a Canadian patrol and detonated a mortar shell strapped to his chest, killing Cpl. Jamie Murphy and an Afghan bystander and wounding three other Canadian soldiers.

Some Canadian soldiers said after the suicide attack that they believed it was retribution. But military officials say they believe the raids and the suicide attack were nothing more than coincidence.

"I believe we were dealing with two completely separate groups," said a source.

Officials say the suicide strike happened too soon after to have been a response to Operation Whirlwind.

The Taliban claimed responsibility for the suicide strike that killed Murphy, while investigators are convinced the minestrike was engineered by HIG.

Investigators believe the Soviet-made TM-57 anti-tank mines that killed Sgt. Short and Cpl. Beerenfenger last October were planted in the creek bed southwest of Camp Julien several hours before their Iltis patrol entered the area.

Engineers had been along the track at least six times in the previous 24 hours, last proving it late that morning, just before lunch.

Days after the minestrike, Canadian soldiers assisted in the capture of Abu Bakr, Kabul-area commander of HIG.

Mr. Bakr has also been linked to the suicide bombing of a bus last June, in which four German soldiers were killed and 29 others wounded.

Since the mine strike, Canadian soldiers have been involved in several raids in which terrorist suspects have been captured, the last known one coming last weekend.


TOPICS: Canada; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; canadiantroops; captured; hig; operationwhirlwind

1 posted on 02/20/2004 1:43:33 PM PST by albertabound
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To: albertabound
Arrest?

Real soldiers don't 'arrest' insurgents.

So9

2 posted on 02/20/2004 1:49:34 PM PST by Servant of the 9 (Goldwater Republican)
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To: Servant of the 9
What do they do, shoot them and piss of the locals, or capture and interrogate them in order to irradicate the entire threat.
3 posted on 02/20/2004 2:58:30 PM PST by albertabound
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To: Servant of the 9
Real soldiers don't 'arrest' insurgents.

Right, they sit on their fat asses at home and tell fake soldiers what to do.

4 posted on 02/20/2004 3:30:03 PM PST by Black Powder
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To: albertabound
What do they do, shoot them and piss of the locals, or capture and interrogate them in order to irradicate the entire threat.

They capture them. They make them prisoners of war. They interogate them until they are squeezed dry and then hold them till the war is over. Admitedly that could be decades in this case.
They do not arrest them, which for an English speaking country implies an attorney, a judge and eventually a jury.

So9

5 posted on 02/20/2004 3:33:05 PM PST by Servant of the 9 (Goldwater Republican)
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To: Black Powder
Real soldiers don't 'arrest' insurgents.

Right, they sit on their fat asses at home and tell fake soldiers what to do.

Considering how old, tender and tired my fat ass is, please be gentle when you Kiss It.

So9

6 posted on 02/20/2004 3:38:35 PM PST by Servant of the 9 (Goldwater Republican)
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To: Servant of the 9
Considering how old, tender and tired my fat ass is, please be gentle when you Kiss It.

I was thinking of another word that begins with Ki..

7 posted on 02/20/2004 5:45:41 PM PST by Black Powder
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To: Servant of the 9
I am sure the boys in Afghanistan will know how to deal with this character. This is not exactly their first rodeo.
8 posted on 02/21/2004 4:55:57 PM PST by albertabound
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To: Servant of the 9
Just what we need. Another guy with his stomach hanging over his keyboard providing instruction to the men who are actually doing the dirty work.
9 posted on 02/22/2004 3:17:55 PM PST by Dr. Luv
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To: Dr. Luv
This is a 2 day old thread. Do your lips move when you read, or what?

So9

10 posted on 02/22/2004 3:38:54 PM PST by Servant of the 9 (Goldwater Republican)
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To: Servant of the 9
I take it the "stomach hanging" remark hit a little too close to home?
11 posted on 02/22/2004 6:51:29 PM PST by Dr. Luv
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To: Servant of the 9
A more appropriate action would have been a .45 cal. to the beannie.
12 posted on 02/22/2004 7:00:41 PM PST by pointsal
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To: albertabound
Terror suspect arrested in Canadian soldiers' deaths

The fiend! Just because those poor soldiers didn't care for his lousy singing, he had them killed???!

Oh....wait...TERROR suspect, not TENOR suspect....

Nevermind....


13 posted on 02/22/2004 8:59:49 PM PST by archy (Concrete shoes, cyanide, TNT! Done dirt cheap! Neckties, contracts, high voltage...Done dirt cheap!)
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To: Dr. Luv
I take it the "stomach hanging" remark hit a little too close to home?

Nah, it comes with being old and banged up. Gormandising is one of the few vices I am still competitive in.

I am just dubious of todays Canadian Troops and what their Rules of Engagement might be.

So9

14 posted on 02/22/2004 9:13:22 PM PST by Servant of the 9 (Goldwater Republican)
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To: Servant of the 9
One rule of their engagement is, When you are not sure who the bad guys are, ask questions first, shoot later.
15 posted on 02/23/2004 7:46:14 AM PST by albertabound (it's good to beeeee Alberta bound.)
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To: Servant of the 9
One rule of their engagement is, When you are not sure who the bad guys are, ask questions first, shoot later.
16 posted on 02/23/2004 7:46:39 AM PST by albertabound (it's good to beeeee Alberta bound.)
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