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California: Secrecy the word on outsourcing [state gov't outsourcing jobs to foreign countries]
San Jose Mercury News ^ | Feb 16, 2004 | Karl Schoenberger

Posted on 02/16/2004 5:57:43 PM PST by John Jorsett

Food stamp recipients in California having trouble with their accounts no longer speak to customer service representatives within the state -- but they are not supposed to know that. Operators at call centers in India and Mexico, who work for a company that handles transactions in the state's food stamp program, are trained not to reveal their location.

This fog of private-sector confidentiality is at the center of an intensifying national debate over the exodus of white collar jobs to low-wage labor markets abroad. California lawmakers are trying to get a handle on how many state government services have been sent offshore by contractors. But the task is proving to be practically impossible.

Two bills that would ban offshore outsourcing of state services have been introduced in the state Assembly this year, and more are pending. Yet it is far from clear how such restrictions could be enforced, state officials and legislative sources say, because state agencies do not keep track of where the multitude of private contractors do their work.

California is only now building a computer database that could track the $6 billion in contracts it awards every year to the private sector for goods and services, said Rob Deignan, a spokesman for the General Services Department. But it won't have the capacity to monitor subcontracting services that might go overseas.

(Excerpt) Read more at mercurynews.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: calgov2002

1 posted on 02/16/2004 5:57:46 PM PST by John Jorsett
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To: John Jorsett
Then I may assume that the state of California is getting tax revenues from India and Mexico as well.
2 posted on 02/16/2004 6:04:02 PM PST by henderson field
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To: John Jorsett
PS: That's another thing that's wrong with private contractors for state services. They may (or may not) be more efficient, but they're also less accountable - much less.
3 posted on 02/16/2004 6:06:16 PM PST by henderson field
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To: henderson field
Hmm.. I wonder if the database is being contacted to some Indian programers? Just wondering...
4 posted on 02/16/2004 6:07:13 PM PST by No_Doll_i
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To: John Jorsett
...callers requesting live help are transferred overseas -- to India for English speakers and to Mexico for Spanish speakers.

First of all why is anyone who can't speak English getting food stamps? Seems to me, if a legal immigrant needs welfare, that immigrant is a "public charge" failed immigrant and should be sent home. If the immigrant is illegal...well that's self explanatory.

And secondly, is anyone missing the irony of Mexican immigrants callin Mexican call centers to complain about not getting their US taxpayer money fast enough?

5 posted on 02/16/2004 6:12:32 PM PST by dagnabbit (Settle illegals on the Crawford TX ranch)
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To: John Jorsett
I don't know what the legislature is upset about. These people are just doing work that American won't. Right?
6 posted on 02/16/2004 6:13:22 PM PST by John Jorsett
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To: John Jorsett
Who's really running the goverment? And to think the Left hasn't won...
7 posted on 02/16/2004 6:15:21 PM PST by Dallas59
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To: Willie Green
Ping
8 posted on 02/16/2004 6:16:25 PM PST by BenLurkin (Socialism is Slavery)
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To: John Jorsett
So now we know how the illegal mexicans get there fraudulent SS #'s. Just immagine the lists of SS #'s being handed out to foriegn countrys. Along with Name, Address, # of dependents, Age and race of all persons, ect....

Someone should go to Jail for this.
9 posted on 02/16/2004 6:35:38 PM PST by Revel
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To: John Jorsett
"Operators at call centers in India and Mexico, who work for a company that handles transactions in the state's food stamp program, are trained not to reveal their location."

O: Namaste! Thees is Pradip Singh, how mey I hulp you?

C: Huh? Whas that, you callin' me nasty?

O: OOOOhhhh Nooo Sirrr. I trying so hard nice to be.

C: Look, man. I ain't got my stamps yet, man. Its like gettin' real close to wheres I cain't get no more beer, and like the ol' lady's been hollerin and sh*t, so I gotta find wheres I kin get some stamps.

O: Oooh yes sahib! Believe me you, I know how you feel so hungry for the rice you must take any job. Now where may I send mail for you to stamp come get?

C: WTF? Whachoo speekin', Spic?

O: Nooo sir maam. I am speaking Sacramento.

C: Sacrawhosits?

O: I calling from Sacramental am.

C: So where's I get them stamps, dammit!?

O: Yessir. Go to de postal orifice, show yoor papers, and dey gottem dere.

C: What cr@p was that about orifice?

O: To the post where mail you letters from.

C: Sh*t. Office. You mean the Post Office.

O: Yessireebobob!

C: Sacramento?

O: I speak Sacramento, only yessireebooboob!

10 posted on 02/16/2004 6:49:27 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Mullahs swinging from lamp posts.....)
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To: henderson field
They may (or may not) be more efficient, but they're also less accountable - much less.

Oh really? Try firing a bureaucrat.

11 posted on 02/16/2004 7:10:21 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to be managed by central planning.)
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To: Brad Cloven
Oh man! That's too funny!
12 posted on 02/16/2004 8:15:23 PM PST by dljordan
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