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Haiti, descending into chaos again
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| 02-11-04
| The Heavy Equipment Guy
Posted on 02/11/2004 2:38:53 AM PST by backhoe
If you get a chance, be sure to read the book "All the Trouble in The World" by P.J. O'Rourke. It has a whole chapter on Haiti, including a great summary of their political history.
This was one of Clinton's "wins" wasn't it ?
Ah! That Clinton "legacy" just keeps on giving--
Yes, he marched right in there, threw out a pro-western government and installed a Marxist. I guess the Haitians haven't learned to appreciate their fantastic good fortune.
TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: aristide; backhoe; buteurmetayer; clintonlegacy; gonaives; guyphilippe; haiti; louisjodelchamblain; metayer
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Another artifact left over from The Decade of Fraud(s), Haiti's worsening situation is under-reported and little commented upon.
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posted on
02/11/2004 2:38:56 AM PST
by
backhoe
To: backhoe
That scumbag traitor Clinton left pile of crap behind, didn't he... recession, 9/11.. now even this.
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posted on
02/11/2004 2:44:35 AM PST
by
ambrose
("John Kerry has blood of American soldiers on his hands" - Lt. Col. Oliver North)
To: ambrose
I don't care how bad it gets, I hope that we don't intervene. If we are not threatened by internal strife, it's for them to find a solution. Or not and suffer the consequences.
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posted on
02/11/2004 2:49:06 AM PST
by
Iwo Jima
To: backhoe
Be interesting to hear comments from the Clintons, Carter, or the Congressional Black Circus who all pushed for installing Aristide back in '94.
To: ambrose
That scumbag traitor Clinton left (a) pile...Yes, he did...
That "legacy" will keep on giving for years and years to come, and our kids will be left to shovel up his messes.
It took me about a year to wise up to the fact that Clinton wasn't just another Jimmy Carter- a failed Governor who lucked into the White House- but was, indeed, something far more sinister.
And I spent about 7 futile years trying to warn people what the price of enabling and tolerating such corruption would be... but they didn't want to hear it, the economy was good, we weren't at war, etc., etc., ad nauseum.
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posted on
02/11/2004 2:56:35 AM PST
by
backhoe
(The 1990's? The Decade of Fraud(s)... the 00's? The Decade of Lunatics...)
To: backhoe
Good job of putting this thread together. Since Randall Robinson was a prime mover behind clinton's 94 venture into Haiti, here's one more:
Randall Robinson: Smooth Talking RacistIn discussing the modern world, Robinson claims, “only white countries are capable of killing so many (people) at one time,” but fails to mention the horrible 1994 Hutu massacre of close to one million Tutsi in Rwanda. He also praises Haitian President Jean-Bertrand Aristide as “a passionate democrat” and “one of the finest human beings I have ever known” but says not one word about his corruption and widespread human rights violations. And these are but a few representative examples of his tainted historiography. Robinson is no friend of truth.
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posted on
02/11/2004 2:57:29 AM PST
by
leadpenny
(- Vietnam Vet Not Fonda Kerry -)
To: Chi-townChief
Be interesting to hear comments from the Clintons, Carter, or the Congressional Black Circus who all pushed for installing Aristide back in '94. ( ~crickets chirping...~ )
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posted on
02/11/2004 2:57:48 AM PST
by
backhoe
(The 1990's? The Decade of Fraud(s)... the 00's? The Decade of Lunatics...)
To: backhoe
Descending into chaos?
Hell, chaos would be an improvement over the conditions in Haiti...
Another Clinton/Carter/Black Caucus "success story"...
Semper Fi
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posted on
02/11/2004 3:01:51 AM PST
by
river rat
(Militant Islam is a cult, flirting with extinction)
To: Iwo Jima
This must be the southern strategy for the dims to win. Stir up their base. I expect to see wall to wall coverage of rafts on the high seas heading to Flordia.
To: backhoe
And I spent about 7 futile years trying to warn people what the price of enabling and tolerating such corruption would be... but they didn't want to hear it, the economy was good, we weren't at war, etc., etc., ad nauseum.It's all about sex.
Can't we just move on?
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posted on
02/11/2004 3:11:43 AM PST
by
Jim Noble
(Now you go feed those hogs before they worry themselves into anemia!)
To: river rat
Hell, chaos would be an improvement over the conditions in Haiti... Excellent point. I read a book about Haiti back in grade school- late 1950's- and it was a pesthole then, poverty, corruption, susperstision. We even had an expeditionary force there in the last century... 1920's?
Nothing seems to help or change things much.
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posted on
02/11/2004 3:13:21 AM PST
by
backhoe
(--30--)
To: Jim Noble
Jim, you have a memorable tagline...
(Now you go feed those hogs before they worry themselves into anemia!)
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posted on
02/11/2004 3:14:28 AM PST
by
backhoe
(--30--)
To: backhoe
If I recall correctly, didn't Gore cite Haiti as an example of Clinton's foreign policy. If Haiti is a measure of Clinton's acumen in foreign affairs, what damage would he do if he is appointed as special ambassador to the Mideast as some Democratic hopefuls have proposed?
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posted on
02/11/2004 3:16:51 AM PST
by
monocle
To: river rat
Descending into chaos? Hell, chaos would be an improvement over the conditions in Haiti...Another Clinton/Carter/Black Caucus "success story"...
Do you remember that Clinton's "rescue" was originally called "Operation Retore Democracy"? After many asked how could we restore democracy to a place that never seen it the intervention was renamed "Operation Uphold Democracy."
To: monocle
If I recall correctly, didn't Gore cite Haiti as an example of Clinton's foreign policy.Although I don't have a quote or link handy, that does ring a bell.
Of course, Clinton/Gore were swift to claim credit for just about anything good from the 1990's, and fast to run away from anything negative.
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posted on
02/11/2004 3:21:24 AM PST
by
backhoe
(--30--)
To: backhoe; Jim Noble
Ah!
but to you know WHERE his tagline is from?
*I* do!
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posted on
02/11/2004 3:50:07 AM PST
by
tiamat
("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno World!")
To: backhoe
This must be a figment of someone's imagination.
"When ticking off his foreign policy accomplishments, President Clinton always has listed "restored democracy to Haiti," at or near the top.... He invaded that tiny country on Sept. 19, 1994, to force defrocked priest Jean-Bertrand Aristide back on his people."
You see? Clintoon fixed Haiti.
Well, you take this here voodoo doll, and you stick these here hat pins in it, and then .......
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posted on
02/11/2004 3:52:22 AM PST
by
G.Mason
(I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials…G.Mason)
To: tiamat; backhoe
Some people without any brains do an awful lot of talking....
(Present company excepted)
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posted on
02/11/2004 3:52:47 AM PST
by
Jim Noble
(Now you go feed those hogs before they worry themselves into anemia!)
To: tiamat
but to you know WHERE his tagline is from? OK, I'll bite- ???
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posted on
02/11/2004 3:52:55 AM PST
by
backhoe
(Just a Stone-Age guy trapped in Loony World...)
To: backhoe
Auntie Em says it to the three farm hands in "The Wizard of Oz"!
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posted on
02/11/2004 4:04:11 AM PST
by
tiamat
("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno World!")
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