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U.S. Believes It Has Found Saddam's Money
Yahoo! News ^ | Sun, Feb 08, 2004 | DAFNA LINZER

Posted on 02/08/2004 12:12:16 PM PST by Kaslin

BERN, Switzerland - The United States believes it has found at least $300 million Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) hid in banks, yet doesn't have enough evidence to get countries such as Syria and Switzerland to hand over the money, U.S. and European officials told The Associated Press.

The funds at stake could go to the Iraq (news - web sites) insurgency or the country's reconstruction — depending on who gets it first. What troubles investigators more is that much of Saddam's cash may already be gone.

The weak U.S. intelligence and the slow-moving investigation, now in its 11th month, have given suspects more than enough time to empty accounts and possibly transfer some funds to Iraq's insurgency, which has cost hundreds of American lives, officials involved in the search said.

Treasury investigators have been quick to identify leads in the hunt but have been scrambling to come up with solid evidence that could hold up in a court or get the approval of a U.N. sanctions committee.

Much to the frustration of the Bush administration, countries that acted quickly on relatively weak evidence involving al-Qaida funds have been unwilling to do the same on Iraq, partly because of growing doubts about the quality of U.S. intelligence.

For months, Swiss officials have asked Washington to provide more information on an account belonging to a Panamanian-registered front company that U.S. officials believe is tied to the former Iraqi regime. The account contains the equivalent of $80 million and U.S. officials are still trying to gather enough information for the Swiss to act.

Were the account held in a U.S. bank, federal authorities wouldn't need any more evidence than they already have because the Patriot Act, passed after Sept. 11, 2001, gives them expanded powers of search and seizure.

"We know a lot of countries cannot use intelligence information the way we can use it now after Sept. 11," said Juan Zarate, the Treasury Department (news - web sites)'s deputy assistant secretary for terrorist financing and financial crimes. "It's not a complete hindrance but we have to provide the right information."

Swiss officials put a temporary hold on the Montana Management account but won't hand over the money to an Iraqi reconstruction fund, as the Bush administration wants, unless it gets more details — and none were forthcoming during a recent meeting between U.S. and Swiss treasury officials in Washington.

Zarate told AP his office would target new individuals "in the next few weeks," and submit the names to the U.N. sanctions committee, where approval is assured, giving European countries a legal basis to act.

"The reality is, we want to be sure about cases when we go to the U.N. since we're basically marking an individual or a company or an entity. We do have to present some sort of basis for it," Zarate said.

But he said, "when you work bilaterally, things don't necessarily have to be that formal or that definitive."

So far, Zarate's office has given the United Nations (news - web sites) the names of five Iraqi entities — the Central Bank of Iraq, Iraq Reinsurance Company, Rafidain Bank, Rasheed Bank and Iraqi Airways Company — plus the list of the 55 Most-Wanted Iraqis that the military presented as a deck of cards in the early days of last year's war.

European and Middle Eastern officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said they had peeked into accounts held by children of the 55 and found almost no money. Saddam's daughters, who are living comfortably in Jordan, remain under scrutiny, officials said.

The investigation relies solely on interrogations and information U.S. officials are getting in Iraq. Zarate wouldn't say whether Saddam was cooperating.

No other countries — not even coalition partners — have offered names to the U.N. list.

"The onus falls mostly on us to produce lists and to produce leads," Zarate said. The interagency investigation has been "overwhelmed" by documents and CD ROMs collected in Iraq, he said.

So far, the amount of money identified by U.S. investigators is nowhere near prewar estimates of $40 billion stashed away by Saddam.

"We don't know where it is," said Pierre de Bousquet de Florian, the head of France's domestic intelligence agency.

The largest sums uncovered so far are in Middle East banks. U.S. officials are hoping Syrian officials will be encouraged to hand over money once the Swiss do. But there are also concerns that pressuring the Syrians, without sufficient evidence, could hamper important cooperation on Iraq and the war on terrorism.

In October, U.S. investigators went to the Syrian capital, Damascus, and Amman, Jordan, looking for hidden Iraqi accounts. Syria has frozen about $250 million but won't give the money to the Iraq fund because it can't be sure it belonged to the regime.

The Swiss face similar issues.

In some cases, Swiss investigators have been unable to find evidence that would corroborate the information the United States has provided on accounts. In others, they are having trouble establishing whether a crime has been committed by bank clients. The largest accounts may already be emptied out, according to European, Middle Eastern and American officials.

One Swiss official noted that in 1992, Libya managed to pull 425 million Swiss Francs — or about $300 million then — from Switzerland after it was given two weeks to cooperate with the United Nations or face sanctions for its role in the bombing of a Pan Am flight.

For U.S. investigators tracing Saddam's money, early efforts focused on retrieving close to $1 billion stolen from the Iraqi Central Bank, including money taken by Saddam's sons. More than $100 million is still missing and some is thought to be in the hands of insurgents.

The interagency investigation, which includes Treasury, the FBI (news - web sites), the CIA (news - web sites) and Immigration and Customs Enforcement, is still tracing the serial numbers on $750,000 cash found in Saddam's possession when he was captured nearly two months ago.

Hundreds of millions of Iraqi dollars that were in accounts before the 1991 Gulf War (news - web sites) are being turned over to the reconstruction fund. The United States also has asked countries owed money by Iraq to forgive the debt. Most have agreed to forgive most, but not all, of the billions Iraq owes.

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Associated Press Writers Jeannine Aversa in Washington and John Leicester in Paris contributed to this report.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iraq; iraqiassets; moneytrail; montanamanagement; saddaminc; saddamsmoney; switzerland
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I believe any money that is discovered should go to the Iraqis
1 posted on 02/08/2004 12:12:19 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
I believe any money that is discovered should go to the Iraqis

Use some of it to pay stipends to the widows of American Troops and Iraqi police killed in action. Use the rest to hire more Iraqi police.

2 posted on 02/08/2004 12:20:20 PM PST by dirtboy (We have come here not to insult Howard Dean, but to bury him...)
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To: Kaslin
DANGIT!! Too bad they shaved his ugly mug. I woulda loved to have this scenario in my mind:

CIA agent with needle-nose pliers: "What's the PIN number?"
Saddam: "What PIN number?"
PLOINK
CIA agent with needle-nose pliers: "What's the PIN number?"
Saddam: "That really hurt. What are you talking----
PLOINK
CIA agent with needle-nose pliers: "What's the PIN number?"
Saddam: "I want to see a representative of---"
PLOINK
Saddam: "YOWWCH!!
CIA agent with needle-nose pliers: "What's the PIN number?"
CIA agent without needle-nose pliers: "I got dibs on his mustache."
3 posted on 02/08/2004 12:21:58 PM PST by RandallFlagg (<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">miserable failure)
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To: Kaslin
"The weak U.S. intelligence and the slow-moving investigation, now in its 11th month, have given suspects more than enough time to empty accounts and possibly transfer some funds to Iraq's insurgency, which has cost hundreds of American lives, officials involved in the search said."

What a loaded sentence. They just missed saying, "all of which is George W. Bush's fault, naturally." AP Twerps.

4 posted on 02/08/2004 12:30:07 PM PST by LurkedLongEnough
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To: Kaslin
Well, don't stop now, guys. Go after the UN for the rest of it.
5 posted on 02/08/2004 12:31:21 PM PST by mewzilla
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To: mewzilla
The vulchers in Switzerland have been living off protecting the bounty of tyrants for over 100 years.They supported Hitler in looting Germany and Jews throughout Europe.This is to be expected from these low lifes.
6 posted on 02/08/2004 12:59:26 PM PST by Blessed
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To: Kaslin
Switzerland. Big surprise that a "neutral" European country would be slow-rolling us. They directly aided the Nazis in WWII, it's no surprise that they would be aiding our enemies today, too. I hope they choke on their blood-money.
7 posted on 02/08/2004 1:00:27 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (If universities didn't teach worthless subjects, who would?)
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To: Blessed
See #7. People are going to think you and I are actually the same person, LOL.
8 posted on 02/08/2004 1:02:30 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (If universities didn't teach worthless subjects, who would?)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Time to hire a couple 16 year old hackers and tell them that if they can get the money, they'll get first dibs on *all* new gaming releases for the rest of their lives lol...
9 posted on 02/08/2004 1:09:16 PM PST by Terabitten (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of All Who Threaten It)
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To: Kaslin; SierraWasp; Southack; BOBTHENAILER; Liz; onyx; PhilDragoo; MeekOneGOP; PhiKapMom

10 posted on 02/08/2004 1:44:44 PM PST by Grampa Dave (John F' Kerry! You are not John F. Kennedy! You're just another $oreA$$ puppet.)
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To: LurkedLongEnough
They just missed saying, "all of which is George W. Bush's fault, naturally." AP Twerps.

But someone in the administration should point out Tenents assertion that it was weakened during slicks administration and that it'll be another 5 years before it is where it should be, of course unless the country elects JFK, heaven forbid.

11 posted on 02/08/2004 1:58:29 PM PST by b4its2late (When you do a good deed, get a receipt in case heaven is like the IRS.)
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To: LurkedLongEnough
That's when I stopped reading. All bias all the time.....
12 posted on 02/08/2004 2:05:04 PM PST by OldFriend (Always understand, even if you remain among the few)
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To: LurkedLongEnough
What a loaded sentence. They just missed saying, "all of which is George W. Bush's fault, naturally." AP Twerps.

Indeed that is a glaring sentence. It's a shame the AP didn't use its ace detectives and 100% accuracy rate to quickly find and report on the money.   [/sarcasm]

13 posted on 02/08/2004 2:06:21 PM PST by jigsaw (Freeper Fidelis)
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To: Kaslin
"I believe any money that is discovered should go to the Iraqis"

Neither do the French.
14 posted on 02/08/2004 2:09:50 PM PST by Beck_isright (" I cannot vote for a liberal whatever his party label happens to be."-Lazamataz, FR 2004)
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To: Grampa Dave
LOL ! I bet he gave a LOT of it to hillary ...

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15 posted on 02/08/2004 2:15:00 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (Check out this HILARIOUS story !! haha!: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1060580/posts)
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To: Kaslin
United States believes it has found at least $300 million Saddam Hussein hid in banks, yet doesn't have enough evidence to get countries such as Syria and Switzerland to hand over the money, U.S. and European officials told The Associated Press.

It's almost common knowledge that the Swiss had no problem being the "lock-box" for the minons of death and their victims. Why change now?

Status of investigations into Swiss banking activities during and after WWII

16 posted on 02/08/2004 2:17:55 PM PST by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: Beck_isright
"I believe any money that is discovered should go to the Iraqis"

Neither do the French.

I think you need to read my post again

17 posted on 02/08/2004 2:28:50 PM PST by Kaslin (Will the left-wingers call George Tenet a liar?)
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To: LurkedLongEnough
A tough question for you: Who would you rather have living next door to you DAFNA LINZER or Joseph P. Smith?

Tough choice, huh? An AP writer or a known killer of little children.

Okay, let me make it easier, who would you rather have living next you DAFNA LINZER or Joseph P. Smith and John Wayne Gasey? Woudld it be easier if Smith and Gasey had a pack of rabid AIDS infected pit bulls with a rickety fence?
18 posted on 02/08/2004 2:29:21 PM PST by Joe_October (Saddam supported Terrorists. Al Qaeda are Terrorists. I can't find the link.)
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To: Kaslin
My Apologies! I meant to say that the French don't want any money to go the Iraqis, but hell, it's been a long week plus.
19 posted on 02/08/2004 2:39:21 PM PST by Beck_isright (" I cannot vote for a liberal whatever his party label happens to be."-Lazamataz, FR 2004)
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To: Grampa Dave
Don't forget all the SH-$$$$ invested in ________ Pharmaceutical Companies International!
20 posted on 02/08/2004 2:54:12 PM PST by maestro
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