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Child Safety List - Please Role-Play With Your Children
Vanity | 2/7/04 | mtbopfuyn

Posted on 02/07/2004 7:41:20 AM PST by mtbopfuyn

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1 posted on 02/07/2004 7:41:20 AM PST by mtbopfuyn
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To: mtbopfuyn
Good list. Let's hope every Freeper with children prints it and follows it.




BUMP!!!
2 posted on 02/07/2004 7:42:57 AM PST by EggsAckley (..................**AMEND** the Fourteenth Amendment......(There, is THAT better?).................)
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To: mtbopfuyn
I could have sworn I saw this yesterday in one of the threads. I must be getting old
3 posted on 02/07/2004 7:44:35 AM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: mtbopfuyn
Thank you. BTTT

I was recently flamed because I thought teenagers who were approached by a stranger asking personal questions at a mall were right to ignore him--many a FReeper thought that such behavior is rudeness on par with Janet Jackson and Justin Timberlake. No. Strangers who approach children and teenagers must ALWAYS be suspected!

I agree with you:

Its is also very important that children know that good gown-ups don't ask for help or approach them. Only the bad come near them, and if there is a mistake, a good adult will understand.

4) Never talk to strangers. She stopped and allowed contact.

4 posted on 02/07/2004 7:46:09 AM PST by Triple Word Score
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To: AppyPappy
Yes, like the rest of us, you are getting old. However, I did post the list in a reply yesterday but I've had several suggestions to go public with it.
5 posted on 02/07/2004 7:50:31 AM PST by mtbopfuyn
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To: mtbopfuyn
OK. I was going to try and hunt down the post in the other thread and add it. If they are the same, I won't bother.
6 posted on 02/07/2004 7:52:14 AM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: mtbopfuyn
My kids and I were just discussing this yesterday - we've raised them to be polite and respectful, but I want them to realize that there are certain situations where you can't be worried about manners or hurting someone -

Threads like this are a good reminder.... thanks

7 posted on 02/07/2004 7:59:37 AM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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To: mtbopfuyn
I'd add something that my dad told me when I was young (and living in a small town): Run for a house, any house and run into the house. (Almost unheard of at that time for a house to be locked.) In this day & age with so many houses unoccupied most of the day, I'd tell kids to run for a house that has cars in the driveway, try to get inside or scream & beat on the front door for help.
8 posted on 02/07/2004 8:03:12 AM PST by elli1
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I've got an even better one--let them read Ann Rule's excellent account of Ted Bundy.

It's not the kind of thing I'd have ever thought of giving my young daughters to read, except that I inadvertently left my paperback copy lying in the living room. A couple of days later my ten-year-old approached me and asked, "Daddy, what's a 'blood-gun?'" I asked her where she picked up a term like that, and she told me, "In the Ted Bundy book." Obviously, the word she had misinterpreted was "bludgeon"--Ted's favorite method of getting control of his victims.

At first I was mortified that she should have been reading such a horrible book, but upon reflection I thought that perhaps it was better that she should have a good, first-hand account of the evil to which human nature is susceptible. In a perfect world, this wouldn't be so. But our world is far from perfect.

9 posted on 02/07/2004 8:04:41 AM PST by Agnes Heep
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Just a thought--in the entire Ted Bundy affair, the only woman ever to have escaped him was a fraile young lady who fought him tooth and nail.
10 posted on 02/07/2004 8:05:44 AM PST by Agnes Heep
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This goes along the lines of not talking to strangers, but we have told our kids that adults/strangers should NOT ask for help from children. An adult/stranger shouldn't be asking for directions, for help finding their lost puppy, or for help unloading something from their vehicle. (This doesn't include our elderly neighbors. It's sometimes a difficult balancing act to include good manners with safety issues like this, but we do our best.)

For those of you with little ones, ask them what a "stranger" or "bad guy" looks like. You might be surprised by the answer. We heard things like "they look mean," "they wear black," etc. We explained that a "bad guy" will NOT want them to know he's bad, so he will act like he's very nice.

I hate that we are having to teach our kids these things, but I believe it's a necessity. My brother-in-law and I are in disagreement about it being necessary. He's a police officer in San Diego and he told me that stats show the number of abductions is actually down. I looked him right in the eye and said, "To the parents of an abducted child, those numbers mean NOTHING and your brother and I will do everything possible to help keep our kids safe." The funny thing is that our conversation took place in Venice, FL, which is very near Sarasota, when we were there this past Thanksgiving.

11 posted on 02/07/2004 8:05:53 AM PST by RoseyT
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Mom of 2 boys here.
The oldest is almost 4 1/2.
Super friendly kinda kid who would wander off with the devil himself.
And if the "Devil" is wearing a uniform OF ANY KIND, so much the better... He once made friends with the grocery delivery guy in about 30 seconds.
I have a really hard time trying to teach him who is BAD.
As a matter of fact, I would say we have failed miserably.
I just don't think that he will ever be a kid who stops to think before he talks to people. Of course he is 4, so perhaps he will gain this skill(?) later.
We are now trying to teach him about people who ACT BADLY.

As in, never let an adult touch you if you don't know them.
And, we told him that if an adult that he doesn't know asks him for help or directions he can say, "That's stupid!" Stupid is a word he is NEVER allowed to say, so I am hoping that he will remember it. (We have practiced).

I feel the same way as another poster who said that if there is a mistake, a good adult will understand.

Anyway, the whole thing just boggles my mind. My dad laughs and says it is payback for them not being ale to teach ME about strangers...I assumed that once you knew someone's name they were NOT a stranger.

Such a tricky situation.
12 posted on 02/07/2004 8:20:36 AM PST by M0sby (My Marine is HOME!)
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"To the parents of an abducted child, those numbers mean NOTHING..."

Of course, you are correct. These incidents are very rare, but so is getting hit by lightening, and you don't want to be the one that gets struck. It is also important to remember that they can happen ANYWHERE. People often think big cities are dangerous, and of course they can be. But one thing about a big city, there are a lot of people around, and certainly most of them are good people.

This article gives good advice, and I am going to print it and give it to my kid. I never really thought of the angle that normal adults wouldn't approach a kid for help, directions or whatever, but it's true. Of course, my own kid is old enough that someone might ask her for directions, but the rest of the advice is still helpful.

13 posted on 02/07/2004 8:24:42 AM PST by jocon307 (The dems don't get it, the American people do.)
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To: mtbopfuyn
I'm seriously questioning having children.
14 posted on 02/07/2004 9:36:48 AM PST by cyborg
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A really good book to read is Protecting The Gift.

HERE

This book is written by a FBI profiler and helps parents discern when to really worry about your kids, and what to do about.

I have two young boys and found some good, practicle advice in this book.

15 posted on 02/07/2004 9:38:04 AM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Every heart beats true for the red ,white and blue!)
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This is the saddest thread!

Back in the "olden" days, threats to children were few and kids were allowed to smile at grandmothers like me who passed them in the grocery store or on the sidewalk.

Now I can tell their minds are racing - "Is she going to steal me?"

So sad that parents have to drill their children to be suspicious all the time. And double sad that so many evil people are free to stalk our young. I'd just as soon every pervert arrested be KEPT IN JAIL for the rest of their filthy lives so that our children are safe once again.
16 posted on 02/07/2004 9:43:15 AM PST by Humidston (Two Words: TERM LIMITS)
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Excellent post - thanks!
17 posted on 02/07/2004 9:50:27 AM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - Now more than ever! Thank you for your support!)
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I tell my children to not talk to st angers if I am not around.

The problem with never talk to strangers is that if a child needs help, or is lost they are afraid to ask anyone for help. I have had this happen to me twice, where I found a lost child, one in a parking lot, one in a store.

They were both young and scared to death, but ran away from me because they looked at me as a stranger.

It is a better approach, IMO, to teach children to look for someone they can trust to help them, know when to avoid strangers and what to say if one does approach them.

the book I recommend above gives the example of "look for a Mommy", because chances are that a woman with children is going to help a lost child. Of course not in every single case is that true. But I think it is better than Never, ever talk to strangers.

Just my .02. It is a scary world out there, sometimes, for those of us with young children. We all do the best we can to protect them.

18 posted on 02/07/2004 9:52:06 AM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Every heart beats true for the red ,white and blue!)
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19 posted on 02/07/2004 10:03:25 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (Check out this HILARIOUS story !! haha!: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1060580/posts)
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To: cyborg
Oh no don't question it. Children are the best thing in the whole world, they are the sunshine.

If you want children, you should have a few. The world is not all bad and scary. There are nice, kind people everywhere.We just have to have better skills at recognizing them these days and more prepared to teach our children those skills as well.

Of course terrible things do happen to good people. But the risk is much lower of something bad happening to you , than the joy you will miss out on if you really want kids and don't have them

There are more good guys out there than bad.

This is a terrible, heartbreaking case. But let's remember there are more people in this country who would help a child, rather than hurt a child.

20 posted on 02/07/2004 10:14:29 AM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Every heart beats true for the red ,white and blue!)
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