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Barbs fly over why suspect wasn't jailed (Liberal judge enabled Carlie's killer)
Bradenton Herald ^ | 2/7/04 | NEVY KAMINSKI

Posted on 02/07/2004 5:55:50 AM PST by jimbo123

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To: Savage Beast
But judges, parole board members, or whoever releases dangerous criminals to prey on the public should be held accountable.

I agree. If a patient dies because of a doctor's negligence the doctor can be sued, lose his/her license and even be jailed. But judges, parole boards and prison psychiatrists can let scores of evildoers loose to destroy innocent lives and never pay any price whatsoever.

There needs to be some accountability in the justice system.

21 posted on 02/07/2004 6:48:26 AM PST by Cubs Fan (Political correctness is the terrorist's biggest ally)
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To: jimbo123
"'If I thought that not signing a warrant caused this girl's death, I'd quit," Rapkin said. "I couldn't live with myself. But that didn't happen. I did my job.'"

The idiot bastard said there was no evidence that Smith willingly didn't pay $170 court costs... yet Smith was able to purchase drugs. A liberal judge always looks for ways to flummox the will of the people, always.

Freepers ought to hold vigil in front of this axholzz house until he moves from the state or hangs himself in self disgust, but since he's a liberal, we'll have to settle for him leaving the state.
22 posted on 02/07/2004 6:50:08 AM PST by Godfollow
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To: jimbo123
Fox, last night, had the friend of Smith who turned him in. He saw the tape, knew it was Smith and called police. The interviewer's first question was, "Could your friend Smith have done this terrible thing?" The guy's answer keynotes the problems that they will have.

He asnwered by saying, "No, not if he was in his right mind." Turns out Smith is a doper. Thus, we have from day one that he wasn't himself, it was the dope. This defense has failed many times, but you known some shifty lawyer will use it.

A perceptive judge would have seen the drug use as key and put Smith away. My bet is that this judge cuts corners so as to be able to do other things. The other things can be his private law practice, boating, involvemnt in some charitable committee(s), a girl friend, or some other non-court room time user. Anyone have a bio on the weasel judge?

23 posted on 02/07/2004 6:50:14 AM PST by Tacis
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To: Godfollow
The idiot bastard said there was no evidence that Smith willingly didn't pay $170 court costs... yet Smith was able to purchase drugs

Great point.

24 posted on 02/07/2004 6:53:35 AM PST by Cubs Fan (Political correctness is the terrorist's biggest ally)
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To: jimbo123
If doctors can be sued for malpractice, then why can't lawyers and judges? Seriously, it needs to happen.
25 posted on 02/07/2004 6:54:23 AM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space for rent)
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To: wita
I understand what you are trying to say and I agree....as humans, mistakes are going to be made. But, this judge has shown to have been making mistakes for quite some time now. It just so happens, that one of his mistakes killed an innocent little girl. I can't escape the fact that had this murderer been in jail like he was supposed to have been, Carlie would be alive today.

This judge allowed this murderer to make mistake after mistake and in the end, this murder did not fear the consequences of his actions. That is the judges fault!
26 posted on 02/07/2004 6:54:24 AM PST by Arpege92
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To: Cubs Fan
This is how vigilante-ism gets rolling... if we wish to remain a civil society, this kind of stuff has to actively be dealt with... I say, to begin with, Freepers in Florida should go camp out at this judges doorstep and force the issue...
27 posted on 02/07/2004 6:57:05 AM PST by Godfollow
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To: jimbo123
BUMP!
28 posted on 02/07/2004 6:59:49 AM PST by jmstein7
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To: jimbo123
Right, KILL Terri Schindler Schiavo---but give this guy lienency!

This type of thing makes a person want to be a vigilanty! We need to hang these types of guys, when our kids can not even walk a few blocks at 6 o'clock at night....our country is not in good shape. And it ain't even the cops! Sometimes they try hard, working months, then a judge just throws it all out! Or lets the scum out of jail....crazy!
29 posted on 02/07/2004 7:02:27 AM PST by tuckrdout (Terri Schindler (Schiavo) deserves to have her wishes honored: Give her a DIVORCE!)
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To: jimbo123
Sadly, this type of scenario has been happening more frequently down here. Maybe not on as big a scale as this case, but certainly in local cases there have been numerous instances of store clerks, gas attendants, and kids being harmed or killed by someone who rightfully should have been in jail at the time. In some cases it was traced back to early release due to prison overcrowding (another pet issue of the liberals). Something needs to be done about this, and maybe the good that will come from Carlie's case is that closer attention will be paid to who gets out and who doesn't.
30 posted on 02/07/2004 7:09:04 AM PST by peteram
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To: jimbo123
This happens all the time by liberal judges. Everyday you hear of criminals put back out on the street so it don't cause them extra work. Liberals are often lazy.
Juries are responsible for murderers beating the system. The trial layers know how to pick the most easy to influence to put on the jury. Our judicial system stinks.
31 posted on 02/07/2004 7:16:14 AM PST by Big Horn (A waist is a terrible thing to mind.)
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To: Godfollow
I say, to begin with, Freepers in Florida should go camp out at this judges doorstep and force the issue...

Unfortunately I'm not in Florida but if I were I'd do just that. Instead I will call 941-861-7972 and send a fax to 971-861-7923 and let this judge know what I think of him and hi incompentence.

I also believe that anybody who is connected ought to try and make it so judges can be sued the same was doctors can be when their screw ups cost lives.

32 posted on 02/07/2004 7:23:04 AM PST by Cubs Fan (Political correctness is the terrorist's biggest ally)
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To: Big Horn
Indeed. A similar judge in Oklahoma City released a guy after slightly less than a year of his 10-year sentence. The reason? He felt it would do no good to keep the man in jail. The man's crime? He molested his own grandson. His daughter and family is furious, and fearful that they will continue to be harassed by this creep.
33 posted on 02/07/2004 7:25:38 AM PST by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: jimbo123
Judge is lying.
Violating probation by failing a mandatory drug test has nothing to do with not paying.

34 posted on 02/07/2004 7:29:50 AM PST by mabelkitty
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To: jimbo123
Okay, the judge is bad, and negligent, and all, but hindsight is 20/20 and this JP Smith killed Carlia. Nobody else did it--he did it. He is responsible for his actions--no one else. He made choices--I think this is a slow version of suicide-by-cop.

99% of druggies don't kill anybody (but themselves.)

In the final analysis, no human justice system can possibly prevent things like this from happening. And we can't afford to lock up everybody who "might" do something bad.

I personally would like to see dangerous types humanely executed. We don't put rabid dogs in a cage together for awhile and then let them out expecting them to be better.

The main thing here is to note that the 23 year old he tried to abduct earlier screamed and fought until rescued, so he set his sights on a more compliant age. Let us educate our children--NEVER let a kidnapper move you to HIS choice of crime scene. Even if he threatens you with a gun or threatens to kill your family (or does!) don't ever go with the bad guy...or at least make sure that if you lose, there's lots of forensics left at the scene.
35 posted on 02/07/2004 7:35:27 AM PST by Triple Word Score
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To: jimbo123
I can see where a judge might not have a grounding in human behavior, but most sentencing is done under the guidelines handed down by a pre-sentencing study, and at that point there should be trained professionals (not psychologists, one would hope) who know enough about criminal behavior to determine whether a particular individual is liable to be a danger. In this case even a layman could have seen the potential for some serious trouble down the road. The pioneering criminologist J. Paul De River opined that under no circumstances should sexual criminals be allowed to plea-bargain or otherwise beat the system--he knew firsthand how dangerous they were.

36 posted on 02/07/2004 7:36:10 AM PST by Agnes Heep
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To: Johnny_Cipher
I heard a radio interview with this piece of worthless liberal trash yesterday evening. He was whining about "not being able to sleep" since the child was found dead. May he never sleep again.

Hey, the man *feels* bad about it - what more do you want?

37 posted on 02/07/2004 7:50:38 AM PST by aberaussie
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To: wita
My point is not to be flamed, but to point out that if there is a focus, it certainly ought to be on the more dangerous and prolific manners of death to children. Drowning is also way above kidnap murder. The emotional reaction is for the parents, and democrats. I have not trouble focusing righteous indignation on liberal judges, always keeping in mind that we as humans liberal or otherwise are far from perfect, and need to practise moderation in our outrage lest we become as those we so love to skewer with their weakness.

Are you saying, then, since deaths from stupidity are more common, we should focus our energy on punishing those who cause death by their stupidity? How do you determine what is truly an accident and what is caused by stupidity or carelessness? Are you saying that those who kill because they are evil should not be our focus because they are less common?

I think people get more riled up emotionally by a murder like this because it is deliberately evil and it is our nature to find that abhorrent. I don't think because we are emotional about this that we should not carefully examine this judge's record and see if his decisions are putting us and our children at risk by putting people back on the street who should not be there. I also hope that if this perpetrater is truly the right one, I mean that we have incontrovertable evidence of his guilt, that we will not waste ten years or more finally deciding to execute him. Anyone who would kill a little girl in that way should not live.

38 posted on 02/07/2004 8:06:45 AM PST by aberaussie
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To: Arpege92
agreed, but that is the judges decision to make. We need a way to make judges pay for their mistakes as we pay for ours. Pedestal judges ought to be knocked off (the pedestal) once in a while so they fear the consequences of their actions, as criminals are supposed to fear the law.
39 posted on 02/07/2004 8:17:16 AM PST by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: jimbo123
"This is not just a wrinkle in the law, it happens all the time," Lipinski said. "Judges are blamed because they're the easiest targets around."

Sir, they are the easiest targets because they are the perpetrators of these miscarriages.

40 posted on 02/07/2004 8:47:44 AM PST by Oatka
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