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CARLIE FOUGHT FIEND TO THE END
New York Post ^ | 2/07/04 | DEVIN SMITH and ADAM MILLER

Posted on 02/07/2004 2:14:22 AM PST by kattracks

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:19:27 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Beck_isright
Here's info on Judge Rapkin: http://www.12circuit.state.fl.us/bios/rapkin.htm
61 posted on 02/07/2004 5:32:09 AM PST by Elkiejg (Clintons and Democrats have ruined America)
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To: mtbopfuyn
WHAT?????
62 posted on 02/07/2004 5:33:25 AM PST by luigi
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To: Syncro
The court system is out of whack.

It certainly is … but there is one small thing that could be done to start rectifying the court system:

Publish the names of Judges who let these criminal perverts out on the streets! If these judges are elected – the voters must know who they are. If they are appointed, the politicians who appoint them must catch the voter wrath.

63 posted on 02/07/2004 5:33:54 AM PST by bimbo
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To: Bluntpoint
I think you are smart.

Caitlin is nearly 12. Soon we will be moving to a more populated area. We are already doing talks about, "Don't take short-cuts. Walk with a buddy. Keep the doors locked. "

It's so sad. I remember as a kid I would be out on my bike all day, just riding and playing, and not come home til dinner-time.

Nowadays, it would scare me to death for my child to do that.

64 posted on 02/07/2004 5:33:56 AM PST by tiamat ("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno World!")
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To: kattracks
Exterminate him and his kind.
65 posted on 02/07/2004 5:34:07 AM PST by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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To: gunnedah
One of the men who murdered my uncle was on parole for murder. The two men who killed him were given two death sentences and two life sentences. They are walking the streets.

My uncle is still dead.
66 posted on 02/07/2004 5:36:31 AM PST by Samwise (There are other forces at work in this world, Frodo, besides the will of evil.)
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To: Elkiejg
12TH JUDICIAL CIRCUIT COURT JUDGE HARRY RAPKIN
NONPARTISAN
PO BOX 1000
BRADENTON, FL 34206
Phone: (941) 748-4501
67 posted on 02/07/2004 5:38:06 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: ovrtaxt
You can search for sexual predators in Fla

Warning, Will Robinson! That's the short list, the very very short list. Many states do have an online list however it is far from accurate. Too many times the monsters conveniently forget to register. Too many time the LE forgets to post it. Too many times they get lost in the shuffle. Stats show by the time these creatures are convicted they have a history of around 60 acts that were either never reported or were bargained down. With an estimated one pervert per square mile, you probably have at least one living in your neighborhood.

68 posted on 02/07/2004 5:38:55 AM PST by mtbopfuyn
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To: Elkiejg
Here's more - looks like he's up for election this year.

12TH JUDICIAL CIRCUIT COURT JUDGES,
GROUP 2 Judge Harry M. Rapkin
No Party Affiliation
Judicial Center - 2002 Ringling Blvd
PO Box 48927
Sarasota, FL 34230
Phone: (941)363-7800
Term Length: 6 years
Next Election: 2004

69 posted on 02/07/2004 5:40:57 AM PST by Elkiejg (Clintons and Democrats have ruined America)
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To: mware
It is difficult to tell but it looked like he had something in his right hand. Perhaps a knife or screwdriver.

All the more reason to run, scream, and never let him take you to the second scene.

70 posted on 02/07/2004 5:41:33 AM PST by mtbopfuyn
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To: Woahhs
will pay the ultimate price for what he did to her."

As long as Republicans control Florida.

71 posted on 02/07/2004 5:42:17 AM PST by Rome2000 (JIHADISTS FOR KERRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: tiamat
I remember those days, too; it's a shame what our kids cannot do because of all the sickos runnng around free. I even cautioned my 18-year-old daughter (again) the other night about what to do while she's home alone....while I was talking to her, a man she didn't know knocked on the door (she lives in California, I'm in NY)....
72 posted on 02/07/2004 5:42:55 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Samwise
There is no justice in the legal system in America. It should be called The Just-Us System. It is all about what lawyer can brainwash a jury the best and come up with the best lies. Not only that our Bar has gone to legislating from the bench and eventually the Constitution will be overthrown and a dictator installed.
Bush ticks me off in a lot of areas but hell our government is becoming worse than the MAFIA and if the liberals take over it will fall to a dictator.
My homestate just re-elected a chief Just-Us whom herself was guilty of hit and run in an accident while drinking.The Judicial System in America is in sad shape. And all elected officials cover for each other and leave the average citizen out in the cold to fend for self.
73 posted on 02/07/2004 5:45:44 AM PST by gunnedah
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To: nicmarlo
I think we will worry about them no matter the age!

Scares me.

In a way, I feel blessed. Caitlin is mildly autistic, so she is wary of strangers naturally. She also has little interest in hanging out with a group of other kids. ( She likes one-on-one interaction or playing by herself better. ) In a way, her syndrome is a protection to her.

74 posted on 02/07/2004 5:47:24 AM PST by tiamat ("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno World!")
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To: tiamat
I have told her to yell things like "Fire!" and "You're not my dad!" if anyone tries this with her. I have told her to scream, bite, hit and kick and to RUN the minute she gets a chance. I have told her, "Your job is to live and get away.

Telling her sounds good but role playing and getting her to actually think and work through scenerios is what is going to help her in such a situation. This is just a quick run through but here's something I posted in a reply to yesterday's thread:

"Stinson, who was 20 at the time, struggled, lost her footing and fell down, then offered Smith $50 to leave her alone. He jumped on top of her. "If you don't quit screaming, I'll cut you," Smith said, according to records. Smith pulled her up by her shirt, but she squirmed away, landing in oncoming traffic. A van stopped to help her, she said. The people in the van jumped out, armed with golf clubs to fend Smith off, but he fled."

Smart gal for struggling, screaming and getting out of her shirt to get away. She called attention to herself which saved her life. This morning I had a long discussion with our kids on avoiding getting taken. Not blaming Carlie a bit, but she did have options she failed to act upon.

1) Be aware of your surroundings.

2) She let the sicko get too close. Never let anyone get within arm's distance. Don't let strangers enter your "space".

3) Listen to that inner voice telling you something isn't right. She seemed to have hesitated and almost stepped back but didn't follow through.

4) Never talk to strangers. She stopped and allowed contact. Doesn't matter if he had a gun. Doesn't matter if he had an ID showing he was a security guard for the car wash.

5) She didn't avoid him, walk around him, or run away, and she allowed him within her space. This signalled to him she was vulnerable and an easy victim.

6) She had a weapon - her backpack. She may have had time while he approached her or was talking to her to take off her backpack. Once she was grabbled she or in the car use the backpack to hit him.

7) After she was grabbed - NEVER ALLOW YOURSELF TO BE TAKEN TO THE SECOND SCENE! Time and time again we've been told the second scene is where victims are killed. Once he grabbed her arm - twist, kick, hit, scream your lungs out, whatever it takes. If you can't get away then go limp and fall to the ground to gain time. It's hard to pick up 120 lbs of dead weight quickly. If he does pick you up then start fighting again. He will have his hands occupied by holding you but you have your arms and legs free. Gouge eyes out and bite.

8) Scream, kick over trash cans, kick the building, kick the car, whatever makes noise to draw attention.

9) NEVER GET IN THE CAR! Your legs are stronger than your hands so kick the sicko or use legs to delay him putting you in the car.

10) He has you in the car - A car is a weapon. He tells you to sit still, be quiet or he'll kill you - screw him. Go crazy!!! Hit him, kick him, kick his driving leg especially, grab the steering wheel, put it in reverse, turn on radio loud, kick windows, roll windows down, start pulling wires under the dash, honk horn, hit him with the back pack or whatever you can get out of the backpack (pencil, sharp cornered book, toy with pointy edges). Do NOT be afraid of wrecking the car. You have a much greater chance of surviving an accident than you do at the second deadly scene. An accident will draw attention, people will come, police will come, the ambulance will come. The sicko will be more concerned in saving his hide than you. Most likely he will quickly escape the scene and you will be safe.

11) Role play. Review, review, review. Think of scenerios and what you would do. The more you can think of the more automatic you can be in your reactions and avoidances of dangerous situations. Carlie had mere seconds before he got her to the car and probably only an hour before she was killed. If you've gone over and thought about what to do in those precious few moments, it may save your life.

Again, I'm NOT putting any blame on Carlie however our children can learn from her mistakes. Prayers for Carlie and the other children who have been taken from us.

75 posted on 02/07/2004 5:50:57 AM PST by mtbopfuyn
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To: Syncro
13 "strikes"?

And will probably get to live another 20 years before he is executed. In the meantime poor Carlie will still be dead.

76 posted on 02/07/2004 5:51:09 AM PST by barker (Bush/Cheney '04)
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To: Elkiejg
No Party Affiliation

Lets just say he will be voting Kerry come November.

He doesn't believe in the death penalty either.

77 posted on 02/07/2004 5:53:16 AM PST by Rome2000 (JIHADISTS FOR KERRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: onyx
Get this: CA has over 600 inmates on death row. Were CA to execute one per month it would take 50 years!

Anyone have Saddam's phone number?

78 posted on 02/07/2004 5:53:17 AM PST by mtbopfuyn
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To: barker
SEN. KERRY: I think, Tim, as people get to know me in the course of this, they’ll know the things that I have fought for and the things I stand for. I was a prosecutor. I’ve sent people to jail for the rest of their life. I’m opposed to the death penalty in the criminal justice system because I think it’s applied unfairly, as even Republican governors have determined, and because I’m for a worse punishment. I think it is worse to take somebody and put them in a small cell for the rest of their life, deprived of their freedom, never to bed. Now, I think that’s tougher. Let me just finish.

MR. RUSSERT: But, Senator, why shouldn’t Timothy McVeigh, who blew up the Oklahoma building, or if John Muhammad is convicted of being a sniper here in Washington—why shouldn’t they receive the death penalty?

SEN. KERRY: Tim, I think that, as I said, you know, different people have different opinions about what’s worse. I’ve seen people die and I know what it’s like to almost die. I don’t think that—you know, dying is scary for a while, but in the end, the punishment is gone. When you’re alive and you’re deprived of your freedom each day and you’re in tough circumstances—and I’m talking about tough circumstances. I’m not talking about some cushy situation where they live off the fat of the land in prison. I’m talking about tough. But if you’re deprived of that freedom for the rest of your living days until God decides to take you, you know, that is tough, my friend, and I think that plenty of people think that.

79 posted on 02/07/2004 5:55:51 AM PST by Rome2000 (JIHADISTS FOR KERRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: mtbopfuyn
THANK you!

We have done some role-playing, but it doesn't work well. ( she's mildly autistic and doesn't "get" it. Gets confused and upset if Dad or an Uncle or Mom play "The Bad Guy") So we keep her very close.

You have a lot of good tips, here, though, and lots of stuff i have not thought of!

You should post this as a vanity, or introduce it to as many threads as you can.

Who knows? You might help save a life!

THANKS!

80 posted on 02/07/2004 5:56:42 AM PST by tiamat ("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno World!")
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