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Debunking The Bush AWOL Story - From The Horse's Mouth
Brig. Gen. Turnipseed | February 6, 2004 | Hon

Posted on 02/06/2004 3:58:26 PM PST by Hon

I just got off the phone about an hour ago with Brig. Gen. William R. Turnipseed. He is the sole source for the four year old story that Bush was AWOL during his National Guard service.

Mr. Turnipseed is very unhappy with the way what he said "casually" four years ago has been twisted by the "Bush haters" (his words) in the media, especially the Boston Globe (who first reported the story) and the New York Times.

In a nutshell here is what happened, according to Turnipseed. Back in 1972 his Alabama National Guard unit received a letter from Bush (who was in the Texas Nation Guard) asking if he while he was in Alabama do some equivalancy training with the Alabama unit.

Turnipseed said that this request was as a matter of routine turned over to his administrative assistant, Lott, who wrote back to Bush, giving him the dates of the next unit drills. Lott told Bush he could report for those dates.

Neither Turnipseed nor Lott can now remember whether Bush appeared for these drills or not. Turnipseed says he himself might not have even been around the base at the time, so he wouldn't know one way or the other. And he says he has always said this.

The points Turnipseed wanted to stress are these: Bush was never ordered to report for duty to his unit. Since Bush was in the Texas National Guard and Turnipseed was in the Alabama National Guard, he couldn't have ordered him even if he had wanted to. But he didn't want to.

He (or his assistant, Lott) simply gave Bush the dates he could report if he wanted to do equivalency training with them. There were no orders given. If he showed up or didn't show up, it wasn't their concern.

Additionally, Turnipseed says that he never once said anything about Bush being "AWOL." He said it isn't even a term used in the National Guard. And anyway, as already noted, Bush's training record was not his concern, but the Texas National Guard's.

He said that since the Texas National Guard gave him an honorable discharge it shows that he fulfilled his training requirements.

Turnipseed said that the media has constantly misrepresented what he said and edited him so as to make Bush look bad.

He also said that he had no idea who Bush was, and that he certainly didn't do him any special favors. Nor would he have.

He said that when he first spoke to the Boston Globe reporter about this four years ago he didn't realize he was talking to a "Bush hater."

Turnipseed is a strong Bush supporter. He said that he has been contacted many times especially recently, by "Bush haters" in the media, who try to get him to say that Bush was AWOL. Once they realize that he won't cooperate they lose interest in talking to him. When they do quote him, they say he is backpedaling--even though he is still saying the same exact thing he told them four years ago.

He has been recently asked to go on with Peter Jennings and NBC's Dateline, but he is concerned that they will edit him in such a way as to misrepresent his story again. I have been in touch with Fox news, in hopes that they will have somebody talk to him and try to present his story fairly.

Bottom line, this whole AWOL story was media spin from the git-go. The Boston Globe reporter simply cherry picked Turnipseed's comments and totally misrepresented him--to make Bush look bad.

And the media are still doing it four years later. They should be ashamed--but they have no shame. They have only their agenda.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Alabama; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: awol; bsdebunked; bush; bushawol; deserter; honismojo; medialies; williamturnipseed
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To: Coleus
Bump to you.
61 posted on 02/06/2004 4:38:28 PM PST by Rocko
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To: Hon
Bump! Good job!


62 posted on 02/06/2004 4:40:06 PM PST by W04Man (Bush2004 Grassroots Campaign visit W-04.com for FREE STICKERS)
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To: Hon
I sent off a link to this tread to FoxNews' Campaing Carl Cameron - I've traded occasional e-mails with him - so, we'll see what happens. I would really like to see the General on, live - so he have his say without any editing, and take the wind out of John F'ing Kerry & Terry McLowlife's attempt to smear Pres. Bush on his service.
63 posted on 02/06/2004 4:41:17 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (The only good news for Democrats is they could save $$ by switching to Geico.)
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To: deport
This story has been around since 1999 and basically debunked in toto.....

Well, I know that. I just wondered at someone just calling the retired general out of the clear blue....

64 posted on 02/06/2004 4:43:50 PM PST by Amelia
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To: Hon; Ironclad
Bush AWOL? Kerry AWOL - from his first wife:

Thanks to FReeper Ironclad

65 posted on 02/06/2004 4:44:26 PM PST by Henchster
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To: cinFLA; Hon
"...I will refrain from commenting on what should have been the obvious."

LOL! True, but I bet the people at the Boston Globe don't get it.

BRAVO to you, Hon, for having the guts to call and get out the TRUTH.
Watch out for Hillary's goons though. :o)

66 posted on 02/06/2004 4:45:10 PM PST by arasina (So there.)
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To: Hon
Great report! Thanks for joining us here on FR.
67 posted on 02/06/2004 4:45:56 PM PST by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: Hon
Great post!
BUMP for great freeping.
68 posted on 02/06/2004 4:45:57 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Hon
And another.
69 posted on 02/06/2004 4:46:14 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Hon
This thread needs to be seen by as many people as possible.
70 posted on 02/06/2004 4:46:49 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Amelia
And you read my explanation. I hope it satisfied you.

You can go to this earlier FR thread I started, and see how the call came about:

"Is AWOL Story Source Will Turnipseed Related To "Iraqi Shield" Left-Wing Bush-Basher Tom Turnipseed?"

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1072645/posts

(I wish people would show this much curiosity about important matters.)
71 posted on 02/06/2004 4:47:05 PM PST by Hon
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To: deport
If Ma Richards couldn't find any dirt, there ain't any dirt to be found.
72 posted on 02/06/2004 4:48:10 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: doug from upland
Hey Doug,

Do you remember Stossel's screen name?
He should be pinged to this.

Regards,
LH
73 posted on 02/06/2004 4:48:42 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Hon
Verrryyy nice...
74 posted on 02/06/2004 4:49:09 PM PST by jcb8199
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To: Hon
Good work.
75 posted on 02/06/2004 4:49:12 PM PST by There's millions of'em (Bill Clinton was a great Democrat President)
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To: Hon
This is an inspired act of genius! You actually looked him up and called him? Amazing!

P.S. Dear DUers: #$^@ You!

76 posted on 02/06/2004 4:50:20 PM PST by Petronski (John Kerry looks like . . . like . . . weakness.)
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To: Johnny_Cipher
Probably not a good idea. I might have a flashback that he's a fat NVA sapper, or something. The media has well established that Vietnam veterans can suddenly revert to being crazed killers. The stench of body odor has been noted as a frequent trigger mechanism.
77 posted on 02/06/2004 4:50:29 PM PST by onedoug
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To: Jim Robinson
Ping!

You gotta see this.
78 posted on 02/06/2004 4:51:33 PM PST by Petronski (John Kerry looks like . . . like . . . weakness.)
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To: Lancey Howard
BUMP for the truth...
79 posted on 02/06/2004 4:51:41 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Hon; Mo1
I wish some adventurous soul would post this over at the DU. It would certainly get their panties in a bunch. They just love regurgitating the "Bush is a deserter" tale. Of course, it wouldn't be allowed to stay up for long and the poster would get banned, but it would be fun while it lasted.
80 posted on 02/06/2004 4:54:50 PM PST by sweetliberty (To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it.")
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