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U.S. Faces Struggles Similar to Churchill's, Bush Says
American Forces Press Service ^ | Feb. 4, 2004 | By K.L. Vantran

Posted on 02/04/2004 2:30:21 PM PST by Calpernia

The struggles and challenges the United States and its allies face in the war on terror are similar to those British Prime Minister Winston Churchill knew in World War II, President Bush said here today.

"Today we are engaged in a different struggle," he said at the Library of Congress, which is featuring an exhibit on Churchill. "Instead of an armed empire, we face stateless networks. Instead of massed armies, we face deadly technologies that must be kept out of the hands of terrorists and outlaw regimes," he said.

"The outcome of the war on terror depends on our ability to see danger, and to answer it with strength and purpose," the president said. "One by one, we are finding and dealing with the terrorists, drawing tight what Winston Churchill called a closing net of doom."

Bush said this war also is a conflict of visions. "In their worship of power, their deep hatreds, their blindness to innocence, the terrorists are successors to the murderous ideologies of the 20th century," he said. "And we are the heirs of the tradition of liberty, defenders of the freedom, the conscience and the dignity of every person. Others before us have shown bravery and moral clarity in this cause."

The president said the United States accepts the responsibilities of history. "The tradition of liberty has advocates in every culture and in every religion," Bush noted. "Our great challenge is to support the momentum of freedom in the greater Middle East. The stakes could not be higher.

"As long as that region is a place of tyranny and despair and anger," he continued, "it will produce men and movements that threaten the safety of Americans and our friends. We seek the advance of democracy for the most practical of reasons, because democracies do not support terrorists or threaten the world with weapons of mass murder."

America is pursuing a forward strategy of freedom in the Middle East, said the president. "We're challenging the enemies of reform, confronting the allies of terror and expecting a higher standard from our friends," he said. "For too long, American policy looked away while men and women were oppressed, their rights ignored and their hopes stifled. That era is over, and we can be confident. As in Germany and Japan and Eastern Europe, liberty will overcome oppression in the Middle East."

The president talked about the progress the United States and its allies have made in Afghanistan and Iraq. "We know that success of freedom in these nations would be a landmark event in the history of the Middle East, in the history of the world," he said.

"Across the region, people would see that freedom is the path to progress and national dignity," he continued. "A thousand lies would stand refuted, falsehoods about the incompatibility of (democratic) values and Middle Eastern cultures. And all would see -- in Afghanistan, in Iraq -- the success of free institutions at the heart of the greater Middle East.

"Achieving this vision," Bush continued, "will be the work of many nations over time, requiring the same strength of will and confidence of purpose that propelled freedom to victory in the defining struggles of the last century." The president said America will do whatever it takes to win the war on terror.

"We will not leave until the job is done," he said as the crowd applauded. "We will succeed because, when given a choice, people everywhere, from all walks of life, from all religions, prefer freedom to violence and terror. We will succeed because human beings are not made by the Almighty God to live in tyranny. We will succeed because of who we are, because even when it is hard, Americans always do what is right. And we know the work that has fallen to this generation."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: allies; bush; churchill; coalition; presidentbush; winstonchurchill; wot
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1 posted on 02/04/2004 2:30:22 PM PST by Calpernia
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"Today we are engaged in a different struggle," he said at the Library of Congress, which is featuring an exhibit on Churchill. "Instead of an armed empire, we face stateless networks. Instead of massed armies, we face deadly technologies that must be kept out of the hands of terrorists and outlaw regimes," he said.

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2 posted on 02/04/2004 2:31:33 PM PST by Calpernia (http://members.cox.net/classicweb/Heroes/heroes.htm)
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To: Calpernia
The comparison between 1930s appeasers and the Demorats of the 2000s is rather apt. In that context, President Bush is the Churchill of our day. However, in this case, we acted before the menace became as formidable as the Nazi war machine. Preemption saves lives.
3 posted on 02/04/2004 2:38:24 PM PST by TheDon (Have a Happy Valentine's Day!)
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To: Calpernia
And most of America thinks for a minute and says....


"Um, who was Churchill?"
4 posted on 02/04/2004 2:38:24 PM PST by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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To: Calpernia
"For too long, American policy looked away while men and women were oppressed, their rights ignored and their hopes stifled. That era is over.."

Just cause, bump!

5 posted on 02/04/2004 3:03:17 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Calpernia
GWB Is The Man!

~~ Bush/Cheney 2004 ~~

6 posted on 02/04/2004 3:07:36 PM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Calpernia; Ragtime Cowgirl; Peach; Mo1
FOUR MORE YEARS!

President Bush Discusses Importance of Democracy in Middle East Remarks by the President on Winston Churchill and the War on Terror Library of Congress

THE PRESIDENT: Thank you all very much. I'm honored to join you as we welcome a magnificent collection to the Library of Congress. I've always been a great admirer of Sir Winston Churchill, admirer of his career, admirer of his strength, admirer of his character -- so much so that I keep a stern-looking bust of Sir Winston in the Oval Office. He watches my every move. (Laughter.)

Like few other men in this or any other age, Churchill is admired throughout the world. And through the writings and his personal effects, we feel the presence of the great man, himself. As people tour this exhibit, I'm sure they'll be able to smell the whiskey and the cigars. (Laughter.)

I appreciate Jim Billington for hosting this exhibit, and for hosting me. It's good to see Marjorie. I appreciate the members of Winston Churchill's family who have come: Lady Mary Soames, who is a daughter; Winston Churchill III, the man bears a mighty name, and his wife, Luce; Celia Sandys, who is a granddaughter. Thank you all for coming. We're honored to have you here in America.

I'm pleased to see my friend, the Ambassador from the United Kingdom to America, Sir David Manning and Lady Manning here, as well. I appreciate the members of Congress who have come -- the Chairman. We've got a couple of mighty powerful people here, Winston, with us today -- Chairmen Lugar and Warner, Senator Bennett, Congressmen Bill Young, Doug Bereuter, Jerry Lewis, Tom Petri, Vern Ehlers and Jane Harman. I'm glad you all are here, thanks for taking time to come.

This exhibit bears witness to one of the most varied and consequential lives of modern history. Churchill's 90 years on earth, joined together two ages. He stood in the presence of Queen Victoria, who first reigned in 1837. He was the Prime Minister to Elizabeth II, who reigns today. Sir Winston met Theodore Roosevelt, and he met Richard Nixon.

Over his long career, Winston Churchill knew success and he knew failure, but he never passed unnoticed. He was a prisoner in the Boer War, a controversial strategist in the Great War. He was the rallying voice of the Second World War, and a prophet of the Cold War. He helped abolish the sweat shops. He gave coal miners an eight-hour day. He was an early advocate of the tank. And he helped draw boundary lines that remain on the map of the Middle East. He was an extraordinary man.

In spare moments, pacing and dictating to harried secretaries, he produced 15 books. He said, "History will be kind to me -- for I intend to write it." (Laughter.) History has been kind to Winston Churchill, as it usually is to those who help save the world.

In a decade of political exile during the 1930s, Churchill was dismissed as a nuisance and a crank. When the crisis he predicted arrived, nearly everyone knew that only one man could rescue Britain. The same trait that had made him an outcast eventually made him the leader of his country. Churchill possessed, in one writer's words, an "absolute refusal, unlike many good and prudent men around him, to compromise or to surrender."

In the years that followed, as a great enemy was defeated, a great partnership was formed. President Franklin Roosevelt found in Churchill a confidence and resolve that equaled his own. As they led the allies to victory, they passed many days in each other's company, and grew in respect and friendship. The President once wrote to the Prime Minister, "It is fun to be in the same decade with you." And this sense of fellowship and common purpose between our two nations continues to this day. I have also been privileged to know a fine British leader, a man of conscience and unshakable determination. In his determination to do the right thing, and not the easy thing, I see the spirit of Churchill in Prime Minister Tony Blair. (Applause.)

When World War II ended, Winston Churchill immediately understood that the victory was incomplete. Half of Europe was occupied by an aggressive empire. And one of Churchill's own finest hours came after the war ended in a speech he delivered in Fulton, Missouri. Churchill warned of the new danger facing free peoples. In stark but measured tones, he spoke of the need for free nations to unite against communist expansion. Marshal Stalin denounced the speech as a "call to war." A prominent American journalist called the speech an "almost catastrophic blunder." In fact, Churchill had set a simple truth before the world: that tyranny could not be ignored or appeased without great risk. And he boldly asserted that freedom -- freedom was the right of men and women on both sides of the Iron Curtain.

Churchill understood that the Cold War was not just a standoff of armies, but a conflict of visions -- a clear divide between those who put their faith in ideologies of power, and those who put their faith in the choices of free people. The successors of Churchill and Roosevelt -- leaders like Truman, and Reagan, and Thatcher -- led a confident alliance that held firm as communism collapsed under the weight of its own contradictions.

Today, we are engaged in a different struggle. Instead of an armed empire, we face stateless networks. Instead of massed armies, we face deadly technologies that must be kept out of the hands of terrorists and outlaw regimes.

Yet in some ways, our current struggles or challenges are similar to those Churchill knew. The outcome of the war on terror depends on our ability to see danger and to answer it with strength and purpose. One by one, we are finding and dealing with the terrorists, drawing tight what Winston Churchill called a "closing net of doom." This war also is a conflict of visions. In their worship of power, their deep hatreds, their blindness to innocence, the terrorists are successors to the murderous ideologies of the 20th century. And we are the heirs of the tradition of liberty, defenders of the freedom, the conscience and the dignity of every person. Others before us have shown bravery and moral clarity in this cause. The same is now asked of us, and we accept the responsibilities of history.

The tradition of liberty has advocates in every culture and in every religion. Our great challenges support the momentum of freedom in the greater Middle East. The stakes could not be higher. As long as that region is a place of tyranny and despair and anger, it will produce men and movements that threaten the safety of Americans and our friends. We seek the advance of democracy for the most practical of reasons: because democracies do not support terrorists or threaten the world with weapons of mass murder.

America is pursuing a forward strategy of freedom in the Middle East. We're challenging the enemies of reform, confronting the allies of terror, and expecting a higher standard from our friends. For too long, American policy looked away while men and women were oppressed, their rights ignored and their hopes stifled. That era is over, and we can be confident. As in Germany, and Japan, and Eastern Europe, liberty will overcome oppression in the Middle East. (Applause.)

True democratic reform must come from within. And across the Middle East, reformers are pushing for change. From Morocco, to Jordan, to Qatar, we're seeing elections and new protections for women and the stirring of political pluralism. When the leaders of reform ask for our help, America will give it. (Applause.)

I've asked the Congress to double the budget for the National Endowment for Democracy, raising its annual total to $80 million. We will focus its new work on bringing free elections and free markets and free press and free speech and free labor unions to the Middle East. The National Endowment gave vital service in the Cold War, and now we are renewing its mission of freedom in the war on terror. (Applause.)

Freedom of the press and the free flow of ideas are vital foundations of liberty. To cut through the hateful propaganda that fills the airwaves in the Muslim world and to promote open debate, we're broadcasting the message of tolerance and truth in Arabic and Persian to tens of millions. In some cities of the greater Middle East, our radio stations are rated number one amongst younger listeners. Next week, we will launch a new Middle East television network called, Alhurra -- Arabic for "the free one." The network will broadcast news and movies and sports and entertainment and educational programming to millions of people across the region. Through all these efforts, we are telling the people in the Middle East the truth about the values and the policies of the United States, and the truth always serves the cause of freedom. (Applause.)

America is also taking the side of reformers who have begun to change the Middle East. We're providing loans and business advice to encourage a culture of entrepreneurship in the Middle East. We've established business internships for women, to teach them the skills of enterprise, and to help them achieve social and economic equality. We're supporting the work of judicial reformers who demand independent courts and the rule of law. At the request of countries in the region, we're providing Arabic language textbooks to boys and girls. We're helping education reformers improve their school systems.

The message to those who long for liberty and those who work for reform is that they can be certain they have a strong ally, a constant ally in the United States of America. (Applause.)

Our strategy and our resolve are being tested in two countries, in particular. The nation of Afghanistan was once the primary training ground of al Qaeda, the home of a barbaric regime called the Taliban. It now has a new constitution that guarantees free election and full participation by women. (Applause.)

The nation of Iraq was for decades an ally of terror ruled by the cruelty and caprice of one man. Today, the people of Iraq are moving toward self-government. Our coalition is working with the Iraqi Governing Council to draft a basic law with a bill of rights. Because our coalition acted, terrorists lost a source of reward money for suicide bombings. Because we acted, nations of the Middle East no longer need to fear reckless aggression from a ruthless dictator who had the intent and capability to inflict great harm on his people and people around the world. Saddam Hussein now sits in a prison cell, and Iraqi men and women are no longer carried to torture chambers and rape rooms, and dumped in mass graves. Because the Baathist regime is history, Iraq is no longer a grave and gathering threat to free nations. Iraq is a free nation. (Applause.)

Freedom still has enemies in Afghanistan and Iraq. All the Baathists and Taliban and terrorists know that if democracy were to be, it would undermine violence -- their hope for violence and innocent death. They understand that if democracy were to be undermined, then the hopes for change throughout the Middle East would be set back. That's what they know. That's what they think. We know that the success of freedom in these nations would be a landmark event in the history of the Middle East, and the history of the world. Across the region, people would see that freedom is the path to progress and national dignity. A thousand lies would stand refuted, falsehoods about the incompatibility of democratic values in Middle Eastern cultures. And all would see, in Afghanistan and Iraq, the success of free institutions at the heart of the greater Middle East.

Achieving this vision will be the work of many nations over time, requiring the same strength of will and confidence of purpose that propelled freedom to victory in the defining struggles of the last century. Today, we're at a point of testing, when people and nations show what they're made out of. America will never be intimidated by thugs and assassins. We will do what it takes. We will not leave until the job is done. (Applause.)

We will succeed because when given a choice, people everywhere, from all walks of life, from all religions, prefer freedom to violence and terror. We will succeed because human beings are not made by the Almighty God to live in tyranny. We will succeed because of who we are -- because even when it is hard, Americans always do what is right.

And we know the work that has fallen to this generation. When great striving is required of us, we will always have an example in the man we honor today. Winston Churchill was a man of extraordinary personal gifts, yet his greatest strength was his unshakable confidence in the power and appeal of freedom. It was the great fortune of mankind that he was there in an hour of peril. And it remains the great duty of mankind to advance the cause of freedom in our time.

May God bless the memory of Winston Churchill. May God continue to bless the United States of America. (Applause.)

7 posted on 02/04/2004 3:39:52 PM PST by OXENinFLA ("We disregard the lessons of history." ----- Patton)
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To: OXENinFLA; StriperSniper
Ping.........
8 posted on 02/04/2004 3:40:57 PM PST by OXENinFLA ("We disregard the lessons of history." ----- Patton)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Major Exhibition on Winston Churchill and His Lifelong Ties to the United States Opens at Library of Congress on February 5
9 posted on 02/04/2004 3:48:04 PM PST by OXENinFLA ("We disregard the lessons of history." ----- Patton)
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To: Calpernia; Ragtime Cowgirl
Library Of Congress: "Churchill and The Great Republic."

A good book to buy, I might add

10 posted on 02/04/2004 3:51:25 PM PST by OXENinFLA ("We disregard the lessons of history." ----- Patton)
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To: blackie
History Channel: Speech Archives

Some really good audio of past historical events including some Churchill and"I did not have sex with that woman........is there too.

11 posted on 02/04/2004 3:58:46 PM PST by OXENinFLA ("We disregard the lessons of history." ----- Patton)
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To: Calpernia
The struggles and challenges the United States and its allies face in the war on terror are similar to those British Prime Minister Winston Churchill knew in World War II, President Bush said here today.

"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may be even a worse fate. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." Winston Churchill

I think Bush was being a bit over dramatic.

Bush said this war also is a conflict of visions.

It is always wise to look ahead, but difficult to look farther than you can see. Winston Churchill

Americans always do what is right.

“The Americans will always do the right thing... but only after they've exhausted all the alternatives." Winston Churchill

"Problems cannot be solved at the same level of awareness that created them." Albert Einstein

12 posted on 02/04/2004 4:03:43 PM PST by MosesKnows
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To: Calpernia; Ragtime Cowgirl; Mo1; StriperSniper
I found this in the Exhibit.

I think it makes the point of why we need to take down the Terrorists whenever their locations become know.


13 posted on 02/04/2004 4:18:03 PM PST by OXENinFLA ("We disregard the lessons of history." ----- Patton)
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To: OXENinFLA
I remember after 9/11, several speeches the President gave were reviewed in even the liberal press as Churchillian.

Today's speech was very interesting to listen to, and I thought often, President Bush will be judges by historians many years hence in much the same was as Churchill - very brave, forward thinking and steadfast.
14 posted on 02/04/2004 4:21:31 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Peach
Let me try that again (too many typos to fix):

I remember after 9/11, several speeches the President gave were reviewed in even the liberal press as Churchillian.

Today's speech was very interesting to listen to, and I think that President Bush will be judged by historians many years hence in much the same way as Churchill - very brave, forward thinking and steadfast.
15 posted on 02/04/2004 4:22:52 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Peach
listen to

You got an audio link?

Yeah, there is a Churchill speech that, well........just a sec.

16 posted on 02/04/2004 4:24:53 PM PST by OXENinFLA ("We disregard the lessons of history." ----- Patton)
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To: Peach
but let's not forget what the British people did to Churchill. Most Americans think the war on terror is already over.
17 posted on 02/04/2004 4:24:56 PM PST by oceanview
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To: OXENinFLA
I listened to the speech on FNC today. Didn't your station(s) carry it?
18 posted on 02/04/2004 4:25:48 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: oceanview
Oh, I haven't forgotten what the British did to Churchill, both before and after the war.

That is why my post clearly stated that historians MANY YEARS hence will view the president...

Look at how Churchill is once again revered as an example.
19 posted on 02/04/2004 4:26:59 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: OXENinFLA
Thanks for the History Channel link ~ I watch both History Channels ~ they have some good stuff.
20 posted on 02/04/2004 4:27:48 PM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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