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Is Soros Planning 'October Suprise' for Bush?
NewsMax ^ | 2/2/04 | Jon E. Dougherty

Posted on 02/01/2004 10:44:22 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

International financier George Soros is worth $7 billion -- and he so desperately wants to oust George Bush from the White House, he says he would even give away his whole fortune to do so.

Soros did not make this comment glibly, telling the Washington Post it would be a real consideration “if someone could guarantee” Bush’s defeat.

The billionaire’s zeal to unseat Bush has caught the notice of top policy makers in Washington who worry that Soros would not need to risk his whole fortune to cause mischief.

Here’s the real worry: Could the master currency trader manipulate the financial markets to create a panic, collapsing the stock market or the U.S. dollar -- on the eve of the November election?

The thought of such a scenario -- dubbed a “Financial October Surprise” -- has some worried.

Disrupting Consumer Confidence

New York Times bestselling author and investigative reporter Kenneth R. Timmerman details in the current edition of Insight Magazine (“Will George Soros Panic the Market?”) how such an October Surprise may play out.

In his analysis, Timmerman writes that the idea of disrupting consumer confidence to the detriment of the Bush White House first came from Clinton administration Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin, who is now head of Citigroup.

Rubin argues in a new study the Bush tax cuts could eventually lead to a crisis of confidence in the markets and in the dollar, because they are contributing to a sea of federal red ink. That could mean staggering losses to investors, the Rubin study says.

Timmerman quotes economist Bruce Bartlett, who believes Rubin is "laying the groundwork for a political assault on President George W. Bush over his budget policies, hope[ing] to give the Democratic presidential candidate an issue to run on that could propel him into the White House."

But, say Wall-Streeters, there may be another aspect to Rubin's study. As a man who continually talked the markets up during the Clinton administration, today he could be talking the market down, Timmerman writes.

"This market is thin enough that if you made a big move all of a sudden you could move it," Bartlett told the magazine. "At some point, something could happen on its own, and then someone like George Soros could turn a minor blip into something else."

Soro's Angst

The Hungarian-born Soros' angst towards President Bush is no secret.

In his fanatical zeal to unseat Bush, he has bankrolled -- to the tune of $18 million -- groups seeking to change U.S. campaign finance laws. He has also provided $15 million in funding to left-wing organizations committed to defeating Bush in November.

The Washington Post reports Soros, who gave away $5 billion over the years to "promote democracy in the former Soviet bloc, Africa and Asia," believes defeating Bush – "the central focus" of his life – is "a matter of life and death."

He has committed some $5 million to MoveOn.org, a left-wing organization that has, among other things, sponsored an ad contest in which two of the ads submitted compared Bush to the Nazis, according to the Washington Times.

Overnight, Soros has become the billion-dollar piggybank for the far left.

'Danger to the World'

"If necessary, I would give more money," Soros, 74, told the Post. "America, under Bush, is a danger to the world. And I'm willing to put my money where my mouth is."

Soros also hinted there were Nazi-like tendencies in the Bush White House.

"When I hear Bush say, 'You're either with us or against us,' it reminds me of the Germans," he told the Post.

The paper said such rhetoric conjures up memories of Nazi slogans on the walls -- Der Feind Hort mit ("The enemy is listening"). "My experiences under Nazi and Soviet rule have sensitized me," he told the Post.

Bush made his “with us or against us” comments during a post-Sept. 11, 2001 speech in which he admonished the nations of the world to join the U.S. in its battle against global terrorism, which affects many countries and has killed scores of people worldwide.

Soros is so fervent in his opposition to Bush, Timmerman indicates, that investment pros are already advising a cautious watch-and-wait attitude towards the billionaire.

Timmerman writes, "Investment adviser and author Don Luskin thinks investors should watch Soros carefully but calmly."

Conditions Must be Right

"At least two of three conditions must be met for a speculative attack on the market to succeed," Luskin told the magazine. "First and foremost, the speculators have to be right."

Timmerman says when Soros sought to break the British pound with massive currency trading in 1992, "he played into a market that knew the existing exchange rates were unsustainable."

Adds Luskin: "So he speculated against the Bank of England, not against the whole damn world. You can influence the market by the very act of betting."

In an ideal situation, however, Luskin says there should be technical market conditions that force other players "to take action triggered by what you did, independent of wanting to help you."

He used the Oct. 19, 1987 stock-market crash as an example. Then, computer-driven selling of stocks picked up steam as the market fell, which drove prices down even further. At day's end, stock prices had plunged 20 percent (compared with a 23 percent drop on Oct. 28 and 29, 1929).

Protection Against Panic-selling

The New York Stock Exchange has, since that "Black Monday" – when the Dow Jones Industrial Average fell to 1,738.34 – installed "circuit breakers" that ostensibly make panic selling impossible. But still, there are concerns.

"Soros believes that if he can force the market down, he will have an effect in the real world," Luskin says. "If it happens on Oct. 31, people might go into the voting booth with fear in their hearts."

Timmerman said he put two questions to Luskin and to private investment adviser Jim Klima of Klima and Associates in Ellicott City, Md. "Should Soros decide to make a power play on the eve of the November 2004 elections, how would he do it? And what is the likelihood he would do so?"

According to Luskin, Soros could decide to sell massive amounts of stock index future contracts. If this tactic succeeded in driving down the market and keeping it down for a few days, he would make a profit from his early trades.

Says Luskin, "With this strategy you only lose at the bottom." However, Soros could lose big when markets turn, as he did in October 1987.

May Stick With Currency Markets

Meanwhile, Klima believes Soros would stick with currency markets, because he is most familiar with them.

"By playing the futures market, he could win whether the dollar slides further or whether it recovers," Klima told Insight. However, he could do the most harm to the U.S. economy if he bets the dollar higher, not lower, Klima continues.

"A dramatic rise in the price of the dollar would dramatically hurt U.S. exports," he explained.

Writes Timmerman, "These advisers say concerned investors should be watching for increased market volatility, starting in the futures pits, and for futures trading at a discount."

However, despite his anti-Bush rhetoric, Soros will likely consider all options before throwing a great deal of money at that market, Timmerman said.

"George Soros has gotten his tail burned badly in the U.S. market when he's been a big seller," Luskin says. "If he's wrong, it could cost him several billion dollars."

Election Panic

If he's correct in his bid, though, even Vermont's wild card former governor, Howard Dean, could be elected in a panic. And if that happens, writes Timmerman, "his doomsday trading could become a self-fulfilling prophecy as U.S. financial markets collapse."

That would leave Soros even richer than he is today. "In the end, it could be a pure financial play, not a political play," says Luskin.

There is no evidence Soros is planning a financial attack on the U.S. markets. But with a bankroll of $7 billion and a passionate hatred of George Bush, Soros has many people worried.



TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: brucebartlett; kennethrtimmerman; market; oligarchy; soros
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1 posted on 02/01/2004 10:44:24 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Soros is starting to remind me more and more of Dr.Mabuse
2 posted on 02/01/2004 10:45:42 AM PST by RightWingAtheist
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To: RightWingAtheist
Soros is starting to remind me more and more of Dr.Mabuse

Actually he reminds me of Goldfinger.

3 posted on 02/01/2004 10:48:22 AM PST by Paul C. Jesup (Voting for a lesser evil is still an evil act and therefore evil...)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
DOJ and the SEC shoud launch a massive investigation of this guy, tie him up with subpoenas and court orders. Bush needs to understand that you have to fight your political enemies, not just watch them.
4 posted on 02/01/2004 10:49:54 AM PST by oceanview
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
So why does Soros hate Bush so much? Is Bush an impediment to his money-making scheme? Or Does he envision a world where financiers are ultimate seat of power rather than politicians? More like having Yeltsin's everywhere, helplessly dependent on figures like Soros or Rubin.
5 posted on 02/01/2004 10:53:07 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Here’s the real worry: Could the master currency trader manipulate the financial markets to create a panic, collapsing the stock market or the U.S. dollar

Isn't this against the law? This guy seems to be a 'pump and dump' shyster.

6 posted on 02/01/2004 10:54:01 AM PST by demlosers (<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com">Miserable Failure</a>)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
So why does Soros hate Bush so much?

He won't let him smoke pot.

7 posted on 02/01/2004 10:54:38 AM PST by eddie willers
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Seven billion dollars is chicken feed compared to the overall financial markets.
8 posted on 02/01/2004 10:55:55 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
International financier George Soros is worth $7 billion -- and he so desperately wants to oust George Bush from the White House, he says he would even give away his whole fortune to do so. Soros did not make this comment glibly, telling the Washington Post it would be a real consideration “if someone could guarantee” Bush’s defeat.

That is really a reckless thing for a public figure to say. It suggests that he would use his money in even nefarious ways to undermine an election (which I am sure he would, and in his statement he makes no differentiation between legal and illegal actions.)

(I am quite sure there are many democrat-controlled local election commissions and officials nationwide who could be bought. But for the amoral like Dems, if it's for their side, nothing is "right" or "wrong.")

9 posted on 02/01/2004 10:56:03 AM PST by gg188
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To: Paul C. Jesup
he reminds me of Goldfinger.

nail on the head.

Now, where is 007 with his license to kill?

10 posted on 02/01/2004 10:57:12 AM PST by PokeyJoe (This tagline got outsourced to India.)
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To: gg188
Maybe Republicans need another campaign slogan, "Kill Soros!"
11 posted on 02/01/2004 10:57:51 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
he says he would even give away his whole fortune to do so.

he probably will, and fail in the process.

Soros thinks he is God. He is in for a bit of a 'surprise' himself, I think.

12 posted on 02/01/2004 10:57:57 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Waiting until October is a bit risky, and I think that there is more than just this guy's possible acts in play.

Long hot summer of UNIONS on strike. These people are playing for regaining power and anything less will be considered a "miserable failure". Now something else must be considered, fitting hillary into the mix.
13 posted on 02/01/2004 10:58:08 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: oceanview
>>>.... you have to fight your political enemies, not just watch them.<<<

Brilliant encapsulation of the problem with the Republicans - and, lately at least, Bush in particular!

14 posted on 02/01/2004 10:58:34 AM PST by HardStarboard (Dump Wesley Clark.....he worries me as much as Hillary!)
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To: RightWingAtheist

"One BILLION dollars!"

15 posted on 02/01/2004 10:59:06 AM PST by gg188
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To: Paul C. Jesup
Actually he reminds me of Goldfinger.

Auric's plan of nuking Fort Knox to drive up the price of his own Au 10 times - he conservatively estimated - was a pretty good one. Thank God Bond was able to appeal to Pussy Galore's "maternal instincts."

16 posted on 02/01/2004 11:00:53 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Kinda reminds me of Perot and his hatred for the Bush family that helped assure the election of Clinton in 92...can you say instant replay?
17 posted on 02/01/2004 11:01:32 AM PST by Preech1 (He IS your President, now GET OVER IT!)
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To: PokeyJoe
Now, where is 007 with his license to kill?

Hell, I'd settle for Flint as long as someone took care of this problem.

18 posted on 02/01/2004 11:01:43 AM PST by Paul C. Jesup (Voting for a lesser evil is still an evil act and therefore evil...)
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To: Mr. Mojo
Auric's plan of nuking Fort Knox to drive up the price of his own Au 10 times - he conservatively estimated - was a pretty good one. Thank God Bond was able to appeal to Pussy Galore's "maternal instincts."

Exactly. You got that in a hole in one.

19 posted on 02/01/2004 11:02:58 AM PST by Paul C. Jesup (Voting for a lesser evil is still an evil act and therefore evil...)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
There is no evidence Soros is planning a financial attack on the U.S. markets. But with a bankroll of $7 billion and a passionate hatred of George Bush, Soros has many people worried.

What's $7B (how much of that is liquid?) compared to a day's normal transactions in the world market? Maybe you can corner one small segment of it, like what was tried in silver, but I can't see this making that big of a dent in the market as a whole.

One thing that could make for big waves is if China floats its currency and decides to invest less in US government debt.
20 posted on 02/01/2004 11:03:10 AM PST by lelio
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