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To: G. Stolyarov II
Repeated from the earlier thread, in response to your message:

"If you continue to make assertions chastizing exceptional dilletantism, you will exhibit the same entrenched mediocrity displayed by Professor Patrick Silk in my mini-play, "The Inexperienced:"
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Amusing. I know a number of polymaths, including some who are quite expert in some of their fields of interest. I know far more who are expert in none.

There is nothing wrong with this. Indeed, having strong interests in many disciplines is an excellent thing. I, myself, have more than a novice's knowledge in many fields.

However, I do not, and will never, hold myself up as an expert at any of thos many disciplines. I do not display my mediocre musical compositions, write on subjects in which others have far more expertise, nor attempt to pretend that any of the languages in which I am competent are languages in which I am fluent.

I do not propose new theorems in particle physics, mineralogy, molecular biology, or biochemistry, even though I can discuss those subjects with experts in the fields and understand scholarly writings in any of them.

Dilletantism is not defined by someone who gains knowledge in many fields. It is defined by the person who attempts to display that knowledge under the pretense of mastery.

Your orthographical propositions demonstrate dilletantism because they duplicate (and only partially) the work of professionals in that field. You demonstrate little understanding of previous efforts toward a new orthography.

I visited your site and read a number of your writings. I listened to your compositions. I gave your efforts a fair trial. I discount them as great thinking.

You needn't specialize, but you run a serious risk of ridicule if you attempt to pass yourself off as an expert in fields where you are an amateur.

Best wishes to you, though.
4 posted on 01/26/2004 12:10:57 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: MineralMan
dI have to agree with you MineralMan.

When I was a child I used to think that it would make so much more sense to spell everything phonetically using the symbols that one will find in all dictionaries. I also thought that it was rather absurd that the abbreviation for pounds is lbs. and not something more simple such as pds. And why on earth was penny abbreviated as d. Later on, having understood both the historical artifacts enclosed in our spelling, abbreviations and just the pure depth of languages and not solely English I changed my view entirely. One might think that to spell through, brought, night and Knight just to name a few is rather absurd but then once again one would lose an understanding of the historic Anglo-Saxon roots of such words. Jeez, I didn't thoughly understand English grammar until I learned German.

One may look at the French language which has similar vowels, diphthongs, dropped endings and unaspirated vowels making up the same sounds as hardly logical at all, but when its history and structure is thoroughly understood the logic of its spelling is readily apparent.

One might look at the Japanese language and how it's written and come to a conclusion of how absurd it is; given it's the most difficult language in the world to write. A language which uses two different syllabaries and Chinese ideograms how ridiculous can such a language be.? But if one studies the language in depth it also reveals not only its history but its but the utility in how it's written. Chinese ideograms: difficult to learn but representative of a single concept rather than a phonetic one. Writing them also requires less effort than single phonetic representations of a word. Also specifically in Japanese each ideogram, almost always has two different pronunciations; one representing the native Japanese pronunciation and the other representing the Chinese. This may seem also absurd, but if one sees how they are employed it makes a lot of sense. I won't go into any details but it allows them to form a plethora of compound words similar to how we do in English, but in our case we use Greek and Latin.

When I looked thru some of the content in the original thread it seemed I was struck by one thing which I found absurd in his original posting and that's the argument that language isn't a "social construct". That may be true if understood from a rigid deconstructionist perspective, but language without question is a cultural ,technological as well as historical construct.

6 posted on 01/26/2004 2:34:25 PM PST by Coeur de Lion
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