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Illegal criminal aliens abound in U.S.
The Washington Times ^ | January 26, 2004 | Jerry Seper

Posted on 01/25/2004 11:39:03 PM PST by Map Kernow

Edited on 07/12/2004 4:12:55 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

About 80,000 illegal criminal aliens, including convicted murderers, rapists, drug dealers and child molesters who served prison time and were released, are loose on the streets of America, hiding from federal immigration authorities.

Despite the creation of a new agency to hunt down criminal aliens and the infusion of millions of dollars to get the job done, many state and local police agencies who make contact with the aliens either never learn of their immigration status or never advise the federal government of their release.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; crime; criminals; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist
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Immigration: it's not just about "jobs Americans won't do" and taxpayer funded services any more.

It's about crime, public safety, and national security.

It's about life and death.

It's about whether George W. Bush gets a second term in office.

Are you listening, George?

Put us through, Karl, put us through!

1 posted on 01/25/2004 11:39:04 PM PST by Map Kernow
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To: Map Kernow; JustPiper
Bump!
2 posted on 01/25/2004 11:43:45 PM PST by Pro-Bush (Homeland Security + Tom Ridge = Open Borders --> Demand Change!)
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To: Map Kernow
And just WHY can't we make certain that these thugs are deported immediately when they released from prison?

In fact, I would propose that we help the U.S. economy by giving many of them early parole, but only with the condition of their being deported.
It would have to be a condition that if they ever return to the U.S. they go back to prison, with their sentence doubled, and no further parole possible.

Send about 30-50 thousand back where they came from, let THEIR governments deal with them!

I cannot estimate the savings to Fed., State, and County government.
I expect it would be a couple of Billion dollars.
3 posted on 01/25/2004 11:52:11 PM PST by Richard-SIA (Nuke the U.N!)
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To: Map Kernow
The National Terrorsist Council of La Raza

Check out Rep. Norwood's CLEAR Act

4 posted on 01/25/2004 11:54:49 PM PST by endthematrix (To enter my lane you must use your turn signal!)
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To: Map Kernow
Schippers uncovered a memo written early in 1996 from Doug Farbrother of the National Performance Review (NPR) to Bill Clinton reminding the President that he had "asked us to expedite the naturalization of nearly a million legal aliens." Farbrother set forth the plan "to force some serious `reinvention' on INS" by "appointing one of our proven NPR reinventors as Deputy INS Commissioner" and moving the existing Deputy elsewhere.

The National Performance Review is now called Vice President Al Gore's National Partnership for Reinventing Government, according to its website www.npr.gov. This confirms Gore's peculiar obsession with reinventing things.

Dr. Elaine Kamarck in Gore's office responded to Farbrother on March 21, 1996 in a solid-cap memo: "THE PRESIDENT IS SICK OF THIS AND WANTS ACTION. IF NOTHING MOVES TODAY WE'LL HAVE TO TAKE SOME PRETTY DRASTIC MEASURES."

A March 22 memo to Al Gore from Doug Farbrother then reported that he told INS "to waive stupid rules, move money from one account to another as needed, and recruit and hire people locally instead of through the slow centralized process." Farbrother added that each city manager in the major cities was to be given "a project budget to spend as needed."

Farbrother's memo spelled out other details of the plan to circumvent customary procedure: "delegate hiring authority, waive extensive background investigations on new employees, allow the cities `overhire authority.'" This carried out the suggestion originally made in a February 15 memo from HUD Secretary Henry Cisneros to Clinton and Gore suggesting the use of "volunteers" from Hispanic action groups to "process" naturalization applications.

In a subsequent fax, Farbrother wrote that he had instructed INS Commissioner Doris Meissner to "get the results the Vice President wants."




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5 posted on 01/25/2004 11:56:50 PM PST by kcvl
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To: Map Kernow
The suit was filed by La Raza, the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee, Latin American Workers Project, New York Immigration Coalition, and Union of Needletrades and Industrial and Textile Employees.

These groups wouldn't want the right of violent criminals to roam free in the USA hampered in any way --- they have an agenda that is about the destruction of the USA anyway.

6 posted on 01/26/2004 12:23:49 AM PST by FITZ
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...Where are the cops when you need them?
7 posted on 01/26/2004 12:30:43 AM PST by Consort
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To: Consort
lol....I can't wait for federalies pulling me over here in CA!
8 posted on 01/26/2004 12:32:14 AM PST by Pro-Bush (Homeland Security + Tom Ridge = Open Borders --> Demand Change!)
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To: Map Kernow
About 80,000 illegal criminal aliens, including convicted murderers, rapists, drug dealers and child molesters who served prison time and were released, are loose on the streets of America, hiding from federal immigration authorities.

Maybe they're committing the murders and rapes that American criminals don't want.

9 posted on 01/26/2004 12:39:42 AM PST by Roscoe
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To: Map Kernow; Sabertooth
bttt!
10 posted on 01/26/2004 12:51:28 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: gubamyster
ping
11 posted on 01/26/2004 1:09:21 AM PST by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: Roscoe
Give us your tired, your poor, your weak, your deranged, your diseased, your criminally insane....
12 posted on 01/26/2004 2:18:52 AM PST by opticoax
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To: Map Kernow; FITZ
I'm with you. Illegal immigration is THE crucial issue facing Americans right now. I am disgusted with the unwillingness of the Republicans to act with integrity on this issue.
13 posted on 01/26/2004 2:49:50 AM PST by MissouriForBush (Insert "Was")
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80,000 illegal criminal aliens

Sheeeez. The next thing they'll be complaining about the disease carriers. Won't they ever let these (soon to be "willing") workers alone?

We don't need no background and health checks! That was for our grandparents and other legal immigrants.

14 posted on 01/26/2004 5:38:09 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael
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To: *immigrant_list; A Navy Vet; Lion Den Dan; Free the USA; Libertarianize the GOP; madfly; B4Ranch; ..
ping
15 posted on 01/26/2004 9:07:57 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: Richard-SIA; Map Kernow; gubamyster
<< And just WHY can't we make certain that these thugs are deported immediately when they released from prison? >>

First, in very very very large part because here in America there are twenty-five thousand businesses and corporations who get to fish and to dredge the talent pool before government gets what's left. Those, that is, who comprise the bottom one third of the wrong side of the Bell Curve; the misfits and sociopaths; the psychotics and psychopaths -- and the quota hires.

Second, because here in America the absolutely cynical manifestation of evil collectivised in the vast and organized criminal enterprizes we euphamistically refer to as the "DemocRATS" [And their mobbed-up public-service-union goon henchmen] are totally appraised of all of the above and for more than seven decades have effectively owned operated and controlled the hiring and the managing of government employees -- and continue to.

And finally because all of the rest of are inherently innocent and generous and kind and loving and that we project all of those characteristics upon those we trust to handle such matters as law enforcement and the [So-called] criminal justice system and INS etceteras blinds us to what is being done TO us by those we pay and trust to do FOR us.

And the criminal aliens walking free among us, all know all of that too.
16 posted on 01/26/2004 9:54:58 AM PST by Brian Allen ( Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Map Kernow
Here we have it. This answer has been staring this nation in the face for the last 20 years.

The civil rights people see it, which is why they will do anything to stop it.

Everyone knows there will never be enough INS/ ICE employees to have a significant impact on the problem. The answer has always been empowering state and locals.

Let me be clear, we are talking about criminal aliens and aliens who have refused to show up for deportation hearings NOT Jose and Maria orange pickers.

I do not believe that local cops should become INS officers or for that matter even question people about their immigration status because it’s not necessary.

If a local officer stops someone in his or her routine duties and NCIC history comes back to an already deported aggravated felon then there is no question as to their immigration status or deportability as it has already been established. The officer should immediately detain the alien and transport them to the nearest INS office and dump them off there.

By law the INS has to take them.

As for Jose and Maria the local officer has better things to do and so does the INS which is why the administration has pushed the guest worker plan.

Love it, hate it, if nothing else it’s pragmatic and the status quo is completely unacceptable from all perspectives.

17 posted on 01/26/2004 10:04:05 AM PST by usurper
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And just WHY can't we make certain that these thugs are deported immediately when they're released from prison?

I think I like Brian's answer better, but...

Even if we do go about deporting them - and I mean physically dumping them on the other side of the border, not just giving them a court order to leave the country - they are back in the country before the court finishes the deportation paperwork.

None of what's wrong with immigration can be made right if we can't control the borders. And right now, we don't control our borders.

18 posted on 01/26/2004 10:04:27 AM PST by HiJinx (Go with Courage, go with Honor, go in God's good Grace. Come home when you're done. We'll be here.)
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To: Map Kernow
Anti-illegal-immigration bump!
19 posted on 01/26/2004 10:12:58 AM PST by k2blader (Folks who deny the President's proposal is an amnesty are being intellectually dishonest.)
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To: HiJinx; Richard-SIA; gubamyster; B4Ranch; Sabertooth
<< ..... right now, we don't control our borders. >>

But, as we have demonstrated for more than fifty years between East and West Europe and between North and South Korea and in any and every other place on Earth we put our minds and our limitless resources to the task, we CAN control borders very very well indeed.

But we [Those we trust to and pay for the task that is] WILL not.

Refer to #16, above.
20 posted on 01/26/2004 10:15:10 AM PST by Brian Allen ( Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God - Thomas Jefferson)
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