Posted on 01/22/2004 6:07:23 PM PST by mark502inf
OMPF Shares Concerns of the Council of Family Associations PRISTINA - The Office on Missing Persons and Forensics (OMPF) understands and shares the concerns of the Council of Family Associations, whose members are on hunger strike in their endeavour to draw attention to the issues faced by families of missing persons. OMPF has been left with a difficult legacy since its formation in June 2002. However, the Division has been making steady progress in securing the return of mortal remains from Serbia proper. On six occasions, OMPF coordinated the transfer of multiple remains from Serbia proper to Kosovo and to date, a total of 195 mortal remains have been handed over to the affected families. In order to further accelerate the missing persons’ process, UNMIK signed a joint MoU with ICMP on 26 th November 2003. OMPF shares the concerns of the families that better cooperation is needed from the authorities in Belgrade. Approximately 700 bodies exhumed in Serbia proper are awaiting return to the affected families. OMPF has the operational capacity to handle the return of these remains and shares the wishes of the families that the immediate return of approximately 246 positively identified mortal remains awaiting transfer to Kosovo is agreed by the Serbian authorities.
But we have to keep them secret from really smart people like you - so we've hidden them in Milosevic's Kosovo indictment, where you'll never find them.
Right after the ICTY gets done with him.
And you can save your idiot rationalizations of Serb war crimes for the other halfwits, my little pseudo-Scottish peloponnesian prevaricator - none of your BS carries any weight with me, and you know it.
Again I ask, of these bodies of Albainans across the so called Kosovo border has there been any determination that they were executed?? Means of death? Slovo is not charged with their deaths and no one else is either. Is the fact that for the most part these dead Albanians were killed in NATO kill zones that has stopped any further investigation? Of course.
Either that, or you're just a pathetic example of a dissembling Greek Orthodox bigot who can't find anything better to do than lie your butt off in support of a bunch of homicidal maniacs who fooled you into believing they are your co-religionists.
Any way you slice it, America's foreign policy is going to prove disappointing to you in the extreme, no matter who's in the White House.
And yes, bodies from Batajnica have been identified as individuals who were murdered at Meja and Suva Reka, amongs other places.
On the other hand, your assertion that the investigations have stopped, or your implying that the dead were killed by NATO bombs, simply shows you reverting to your Racak "killed by shrapnel" idiocy, substituting easily disproven lies for facts.
You're not smart enough to learn from your mistakes, so your march of folly continues, unabated, and in full public view.
RUSure we murdered him? I thought he was in prison awaiting trial by his own people. I must have missed the Breaking News story.
One other difference between Iraq and Kosovo... not such a small one - Kosovo: 0 American lives lost. Iraq: 504 Americans killed... (10,000+ wounded) and counting.
I believe that many of those wounds were very minor and the injured were immediately returned to their units. Of course, others were grievously wounded and I pray for them daily.
I don't have statistics to prove this but I think that figure for wounded includes the ones injured in non-battle-related incidents .... vehicle accidents, etc. And I am fairly certain that we have lost some in Kosovo to that sort of incident ..... helicopter crashes, overturned vehicles, and such tragedies. I certainly don't intend to downplay the significance of one single injury or death but we should be sure that we are comparing apples to apples when using such statistics..
We can not continue to go it alone (more or less).
I suspect that the list of those actively involved with us in this theater of the WOT is much longer than the list of those opposing the war effort .... and even the "big name" countries who were obstructionist before the war are cooperating now .... forgivng debts, sending aid, and other activities that fall short of sending troops.
I don't know enough about the history of and situation in Kosovo to have a valid opinion but I must question some of the 'facts' and opinions that you state.
And, take your hero clark with you.
We have not forgotten, sir. (wink)
Then JD Hayworth will battle Hillary Clinton for the White House
Chucky vs. Bride of Chucky! ROFL!
There are plenty more bodies to be discovered. Europe is a bad place to commit genocide unless you have a good PR firm and an understanding of neo-conservative revisionism...
Sad but true.
Where are all the Russian forces South of the Terek River that were there six weeks ago?
Hmm. Lemme guess. Slogging around Mozdok drinking vodka, chain-smoking those funky Moldavian cigarettes, pinching the women, and cursing the uppity tergdaleulebi?
Ahem. What's wrong with this picture?
To say that there were not atrocities in Kosovo...
Yes, there were atrocities in Kosovo. Some committed by Serbs (certainly far more after the bombing started than ever before), some committed by KLA.
Kosovo happen in Europe. This is very close to many of our closest (and oldest) allies, and threatened stability throughout the region. Things are definitely still unstable there. To say going there was wrong because it is still a mess is supremely short-sighted.
Sigh. Who exactly was "threatening stability" and how? Can you answer that one? (Hint: check out the map of Greater Albania. It includes hunks of Macedonia, northern Greece, Montenegro and southern Serbia.) As for our "oldest and closest allies" I suppose you don't include Greece. (Right, we threw them over for Turkey long ago and The Pipeline is to terminate at the port of Flores -- who needs Greece anymore?)
Both conflicts were the right thing to do for humanitarian reasons.
Puh-leeze. Spare me the "humanitarian wars." If the goal had been justice, stability, human rights and all that high-minded humanitarian-type stuff, there was a far better alternative in the case of Kosovo. The Serbs had agreed to a UN peacekeeping mission in Kosovo before the bombing campaign (and that sly Br'er Fox Slobo glad to stick them with the Tar-Baby, I'm sure). The KLA, of course, wanted no part of that. Nor did we. So we threw in that pesky "Annex B" and bombed away.
After 78 days of bombing and no end in sight, we got the Russians to go through the back door and negotiate a "peace deal" which was exactly the same as the one the Serbs had agreed to BEFORE the bombing. (Somehow that silly old "Annex B" wasn't nearly so important once we'd got to drop all those bombs.) Lots of dead Albanians, more than a few dead Serbs, a few dead Americans and Chinese, major ethnic cleansing of Serbs, Jews, Roma, Gorani, etc.,later, and we've got Camp Bondsteel smack dab in the middle of the Tar-Baby (and coincidentally right over the proposed route of The Pipeline). Best of all, the KLA mafia are still going strong all over Europe, even stronger than before.
One other difference between Iraq and Kosovo... not such a small one - Kosovo: 0 American lives lost. Iraq: 504 Americans killed... (10,000+ wounded) and counting.
Oh, I see. It's okay to kill other people for dubious causes, flying at high altitude, so long as you don't get down on the ground and die over over dubious causes. In your logic, killing for a dubious cause is okay, but dying isn't? Do I understand you correctly? (shudder)
I do have a problem with going to Iraq based on shoddy intelligence.
Um, I thought you just wrote it was "the right thing to do for humanitarian reasons"? Hello? Oh, yeah. The media have been screaming about so-called shoddy intelligence, so you're het up about that. Okay. And you're sure the intelligence was shoddy just because they say so.
... at the very least, our CIA needs to be held accountable for the loss of credibility we have suffered from our incompetent intelligence efforts in Iraq.
Oh, I suppose the "shoddy intelligence" which resulted in our bombing the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade wasn't the "loss of credibility" kind. (In case anyone believed that story anyway.)
As for the rest of your post, sorry, I can't go on anymore. It sounds to like you're just parroting the liberal media and maybe you should take you own advice and "think first".
Sorry if I've been harsh. I'm actually a pretty nice person. But you strike me as a Weasely Clark plant, and I'm not so nice when it comes to those tricks. If you're really merely young and not so knowlegeable, then I apologize. If you're a Clark supporter, then go back to DU.
As President Bush said during the SOTU address, it is insulting to the dozens of other countries of the Iraq coalition to imply the U.S. is "going it alone."
I am tired of the Dems repeating this tired mantra when they are only referring to "old Europe," a region that is rapidly becoming irrelevant - politically, economically, and culturally.
Lion,I've decided to stay where I have regular access to the internet so I don't miss a single one of your informed, rational, well-reasoned posts!
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