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Hitler Democrats?
United Press International ^ | January 13 2004 | Peter Roff

Posted on 01/16/2004 6:40:05 PM PST by D.C. Media Hor

The Peter Principles: Hitler Democrats?

By PETER ROFF, UPI Senior Political Analyst

WASHINGTON, Jan. 13 (UPI) -- Almost every recent national campaign has included discussions of a targeted voter bloc that allegedly represented the key to victory.

One year it was soccer moms -- middle- to upper-income suburban women concerned about values issues such as education and abortion rather than pocketbook matters. In another election it was waitress moms -- single, working mothers living from paycheck to paycheck.

It was the so-called "angry white males" in 1994. These voters, lately renamed "NASCAR Dads," are auto-race loving, beer-guzzling, cigarette-smoking Midwestern and Southern family men who are increasingly alienated from the national Democrat Party on issues ranging from God to gays to guns.

None of these blocs represent party activists as much as they symbolize voters largely outside the traditional party structure whose participation in the election may play a key role in its outcome. In the current election there is a bloc, as yet unnamed, that has yet to receive the scrutiny it deserves, in part because its impact is hard to predict and in part because it is, by its nature, inflammatory. Call them "Hitler Democrats."

They exist mostly in cyberspace, a place that Howard Dean has shown to be increasingly important in modern campaigning.

They use the phrase BFEE -- for "Bush Family Evil Empire" -- in regular communication. They delve energetically into the allegations that the Bush family financed Hitler's rise to power. And, almost casually, as though it were the most natural thing in the world, they identify the similarities they see between George W. Bush and Adolf Hitler. For them, Bush's presidency represents the second coming of "the Third Reich."

National Review's Byron York is one of few journalists to look at the phenomena, investigating it for a September 2003 cover story that labeled them "the cutting edge of Bush-hating."

York looked at their Web sites and identified several of the more prominent members of their clique including actress-comedienne Janeane Garofalo, who once referred to the Bush administration as "the 43rd Reich."

In addition to what York found, there are sites like Buzzflash.com, considered by many to be the liberal alternative to the Drudge Report, which posted "a reader commentary" entitled "Bush and Hitler, Publicity Freaks" that opened with the line, "When our professional press (aka mainstream media) notes some eerie similarities, maybe its time to worry?"

Another Web site, Truthout.org, asked in one commentary, "So why, now, when I hear GWB's speeches do I think of Hitler?"

"I've seen nothing to eliminate the possibility that Bush is on the same course as Hitler," it continues. "The propaganda. The lies. The rhetoric. The nationalism ... (A)nyone who compares the history of Hitler's rise to power and the progression of recent events in the U.S. cannot avoid the parallels. It's incontrovertible."

While Web sites like these and others like them can be ascribed to the paranoid fringe of American politics, there are others that cannot because of the place they have claimed for themselves. MoveOn.org, a cyberspace group with a fat bankroll and agenda of driving Bush from office, recently sponsored a contest in which Americans were urged to produce and submit anti-Bush advertisements, with the winning spots to air on television the week of Bush's State of the Union address.

Two of the contest entries hit the "Bush-as-modern-Hitler" theme rather hard. In one, Bush was shown taking the oath of office, chants of "Sieg Heil!" in the background, with accompanying graphics reading, "What were war crimes in 1945 is foreign policy in 2003."

The ads were condemned by the Republican National Committee, which called on the nine Democrats running for president to condemn them. None did. But Jack Rosen, president of the American Jewish Congress -- hardly a group in the GOP's hip pocket -- did, calling them "inexcusable" and saying, "Comparing the commander in chief of a democratic nation to the murderous tyrant Hitler is not only historically specious, it is morally outrageous."

MoveOn.org tried to deflect responsibility for the spots, claiming the contest was a mechanism for public and that they were not responsible for the content. Besides, they pointed out, the ads in question did not win the contest.

That is all beside the point. MoveOn.org now occupies a position of influence on the left rivaling the influence the once-mighty Christian Coalition had on the right. The bar is now lower because MoveOn.org can no longer be considered a fringe group -- they have too much money and too much influence -- even if they continue to exist outside the formal party structure.

The silence of party leaders is quite possible a reflection of MoveOn.org's newfound political power. Billionaire George Soros, who has contributed several million to the group's efforts and may turn over millions more before November, did condemn the ads in a speech Monday, saying he would never make such a comparison because "I lived under Nazism and I know the difference."

But Soros too bears the burden of responsibility for the climate he has played a role in creating. In November, the Washington Post quoted Soros himself making a Bush-Nazi analogy: "'When I hear Bush say, You're either with us or against us, it reminds me of the Germans.' It conjures up memories, he said, of Nazi slogans on the walls."

The deafening silence is a reflection of MoveOn.org's newfound political power and, in a larger sense, of the power of the Internet users who flaunt the Bush-Hitler comparison. With millions of dollars, thousands of man-hours and an abundance of secrecy available to them, individually and collectively, these folks who are committed to Bush's defeat in 2004 by whatever rhetorical means necessary represent a new power in U.S. politics. It would be foolish for the established structure to antagonize them.

Nevertheless, the comparisons and the proliferation of those making the comparisons are disturbing. Responsible leaders should make a point of denouncing it as a matter of principle -- over politics.

(The Peter Principles explores issues in national and local politics, the American culture and the media. It is written by Peter Roff, UPI political analyst and 20-year veteran of the Washington scene.)

Copyright 2004 by United Press International.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; ads; bds; blocs; bush; bushhaters; buzzflash; byronyork; campaigns; democrats; hitler; leftists; liberals; moveon; moveonorg; nascar; nazis; paranoidfringe; peterroff; republicans; rnc; soros; voters

1 posted on 01/16/2004 6:40:06 PM PST by D.C. Media Hor
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To: D.C. Media Hor
Hitler Democrats?

Redundancy alert.

2 posted on 01/16/2004 6:41:16 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: D.C. Media Hor
Soros is the enemy.
3 posted on 01/16/2004 6:45:34 PM PST by MonroeDNA (Soros is the enemy.)
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To: Mr. Mojo
Hitler Democrats?

My first reaction was "Hillary supporters."

Which leads me to wonder about their similarities to jock supporters....

4 posted on 01/16/2004 7:27:18 PM PST by Ophiucus
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To: D.C. Media Hor
As many others have noted, here and elsewhere, whenever the Left starts foaming at the mouth, accusing Conservatives of something outrageous, it is often an insight into what they themselves, the Left, are up to. By accusing the Right, or in this case W., of foul deeds, they attempt to preemptively disarm their opponents by being the first to breach the topic and hopefully put them on the defensive. It was prevalent throughout the Clinton years (remember the "politics of personal destruction" and who it was that was truly engaged in that?).

In light of this phenomenon, could it be that the Left, in trying to link the Republicans to Hitler/Nazism/Fascism, has indeed tipped their hand to their current scheme?

Consider:

Is it the Left or the Right that implicitly practices quasi-anti-Semitism, by withholding support for Israel and lending not-so-quasi-support for Palestinian/radical Muslim causes?
Is it the Left or Right that is more supportive of nationalized industry (e.g., Hillary-health care)?
And these are just two examples. The list goes on and on.

My point is, has the decline of the Left and the (apparent) marginalization of Liberalism merely led to a change in their tactics: no more striving to be like the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics but more like the National Socialist Party? (which word and precept is common to both?). Also common to both is atheism and the religion of secular humanism, or some variant thereof. Heck, never let your ideology get in the way of obtaining power, right?
5 posted on 01/16/2004 7:31:19 PM PST by Eloid Duckwilder
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To: D.C. Media Hor
Hitler Democrats

as opposed to "Bush Democrats", a dissatisfied wing that's been left behind in their party -- I like both phrases. We should hammer the point home, that the malicious, patholigical hate-spewing Democratic lefties have morphed into "Hitler Democrats".

6 posted on 01/16/2004 7:36:52 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: Ciexyz
That's politics..
7 posted on 01/16/2004 7:43:24 PM PST by Nick Thimmesch
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To: Calpernia
One year it was soccer moms>>
8 posted on 01/16/2004 7:45:30 PM PST by Coleus (STOPP Planned Parenthood)
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To: D.C. Media Hor
The funny thing is, I go to a lot of leftwing sites (which shall remain nameless) and they spew the "Anyone But Bush" line...which to me indicates they're basically unprincipled and will stand behind anyone who's not Bush for the sole reason that they're not Bush (marching lockstep, would you sya?) AND they're very fond of "loyalty oaths"...a particularly weird one is something like "I WILL USE MY FEET AND WALLLET....etc etc etc". They don't sense any irony in that at all...but who can expect them to?
9 posted on 01/16/2004 7:52:39 PM PST by sirshackleton
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To: D.C. Media Hor
The MoveOn-Hitler scandal seems to have legs. Good.

This whole Bush=Hitler thing is old hat. Read any high school or college newspaper and you'll find several references to Hitler. It's a common practice for those with little-to-no debating or rational thinking skills to drop the 'Hitler Bomb' to make (or attempt to make) their point. Columnist Jeff Jacoby recently called the practice 'Reductio ad Hitlerum'.

Now take a look at who are the biggest proponents of leftism--young college kids or those at simlar maturity levels.

10 posted on 01/16/2004 8:49:36 PM PST by randog (Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
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To: D.C. Media Hor
"'When I hear Bush say, You're either with us or against us, it reminds me of the Germans.' It conjures up memories, he said, of Nazi slogans on the walls."

Alright. Hitler did this internally to his own people; purging from the society anyone that did not bow down to his regime; like Saddam, like Castro, like every other communist and dictator in power.

Bush said this to foreign nations -- that you will either be with us on rooting our TERRORISM or against us. How many nations elected to go against the defeat of TERRORISM?

The fact that they don't see the difference is astonishing to me. Bush has on numerous occasions reaffirmed the lefts right to hate him and slander him -- just not mob him because they're all pinko wackos.

11 posted on 01/16/2004 8:50:24 PM PST by Naspino (YOU ARE TYPING TOO LOUD!!)
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To: randog
Columnist Jeff Jacoby recently called the practice 'Reductio ad Hitlerum'.

Godwin's Law is the original term. The longer an argument or debate, the greater the probability of someone mentioning Hitler or the Nazis gets to 1.
12 posted on 01/16/2004 8:56:07 PM PST by Terpfen (Hajime Katoki. If you know who he is, then just his name is enough.)
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To: Terpfen
Interesting. Thanks for clarifying that.
13 posted on 01/17/2004 6:10:57 AM PST by randog (Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
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To: randog
also interesting is that the democrats at the dnc are starting to back off on their support for moveon.org because of these ads
14 posted on 01/18/2004 1:18:46 PM PST by D.C. Media Hor
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To: D.C. Media Hor
The Hitler-Bush comparison is obviously born out of pure hatred for Bush. But other than a very few crackpots who know that the comparison is not correct, but are so driven by hatred that they promote it anyway, I have to believe that there is one major factor in the persistence of the comparison: ignorance of history. Hitler is an image to these people, but one not polluted by much understanding of facts.

Anyone you dislike can be identified with Hitler, as long as you don't know much about who Hitler really was, what he really did, or the times in which he lived. No one but a kook, for example, could read The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, and then make that comparison.

Just another example, I am afraid, of the lack of real education in our schools.
15 posted on 01/18/2004 1:39:06 PM PST by Rocky
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To: D.C. Media Hor
Good piece. I wish the author would have pointed out Al Gore's propensity for making speeches sponsored or co-sponsored by Moveon.org, like the Global Warming speech the other day, and his infamous speech last August.

And for those who don't know, truthout is run by Bill Moyers' son, John, a truly repugnant human being.
16 posted on 01/18/2004 1:45:54 PM PST by cyncooper ("We call evil by its name")
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Whoops! I just remembered, and I made a mistake. Truthout is not run by John Moyers. He runs tompaine.com which is an offensive site. I mixed them up because during the Wilson saga truthout and tompaine were feeding off each other.

My apologies for misleading. I believe that DU person Pitt is the one affiliated with truthout.
17 posted on 01/18/2004 1:49:45 PM PST by cyncooper ("We call evil by its name")
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To: D.C. Media Hor
The ads were condemned by the Republican National Committee, which called on the nine Democrats running for president to condemn them. None did.

Shows how much they all fear their own left wing.

18 posted on 01/18/2004 9:27:01 PM PST by StriperSniper (Mine the borders)
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