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Why this even meet the threshold of an investigation is the real question. A Soldier in combat has a duty to protect his own life and those around him.

Spurious investigations after the fact do nothing but destroy morale. Commanders will become timid, not wanting to be second guessed at an Art. 32 hearing, and will start vetting every decision with the JAG and thus lose the initiative.

Stop this madness with the lawyers and warfighting before every active duty soldier quits in disgust.

1 posted on 01/09/2004 11:49:29 AM PST by OldCorps
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2 posted on 01/09/2004 11:51:30 AM PST by Support Free Republic (If Woody had gone straight to the police, this would never have happened!)
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To: OldCorps
What?
How do you know that nothing illegal occurred UNTIL you investigate?
Investigating these situations takes the initiative away from the hounding press and brings the facts out into the open. From now on, there's no doubt that nothing illegal occurred. If there wasn't even an investigation, somebody would always be bringing up this incident.

On another note, openly calling it the "Midtown Massacre" wasn't the brightest move, either. The term "massacre" does not bring up images of battle, but more of images like Wounded Knee.
3 posted on 01/09/2004 11:58:51 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: OldCorps
Why this even meet the threshold of an investigation is the real question. A Soldier in combat has a duty to protect his own life and those around him.

He also has a duty to obey the laws of the United States, and there was some question as to what happened.

Spurious investigations after the fact do nothing but destroy morale.

Define "spurious." There were questions raised by persons within the unit. If they aren't dealt with, then various people will get various ideas--and none of those ideas is a good one to let fester. (Either some will say, "Hey, I have a green light to be a thug," or some will say, "S**t, the CO gets the elevator, and I'm gonna get the shaft.")

Commanders will become timid, not wanting to be second guessed at an Art. 32 hearing, and will start vetting every decision with the JAG and thus lose the initiative.

If commanders actually do become that timid because someone might review their conduct, then they are completely worthless anyway.

Stop this madness with the lawyers and warfighting before every active duty soldier quits in disgust.

If they cannot be bothered to have their judgement questioned in questionable situations, then I don't WANT those soldiers on active duty.

The righteous do not fear having their actions examined.

4 posted on 01/09/2004 12:07:44 PM PST by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
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This entire story is written to SMEAR American troops as much as possible. The following paragrapoh had nothing to do with the story - just helped to denegrate the perception of American troops and the United States.

"While no U.S. troops were killed in the battle, a growing toll is emerging among the soldiers from B Company who fought in that battle after returning to their Fort Benning, Ga., base -- including the killing of one soldier allegedly by four others, a rape charge against a fifth soldier, the hospitalization of a half-dozen for mental problems and the death of another in a single-car accident."



6 posted on 01/09/2004 12:09:21 PM PST by steplock (www.FOCUS.GOHOTSPRINGS.com)
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To: OldCorps
The source of the story is "You Pee International". Enough said!
8 posted on 01/09/2004 12:15:23 PM PST by verity
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Middtown massacre is what happened in midtown manhatten on 911, let them investigate and question Osama about that first before they go hauling in our people in from of investigations and courtmarshalls.
9 posted on 01/09/2004 12:21:03 PM PST by TomasUSMC (from tomasUSMC FIGHT FOR THE LAND OF THE FREE AND HOME OF THE BRAVE)
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To: OldCorps
We should view this as did the Marine Sergeant Major: "It was a good battle...they wanted to die and we wanted to kill them".

Semper Fi,
12 posted on 01/09/2004 2:10:05 PM PST by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar
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