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1 posted on 01/08/2004 10:49:37 AM PST by sarcasm
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We're going for more. We're going for more,''

2 posted on 01/08/2004 10:53:19 AM PST by Happy2BMe (2004 - Who WILL the TERRORISTS vote for? - - Not George W. Bush, THAT'S for sure!)
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The plan would help ease a situation in which major U.S. industries depend on illegal workers

The talking point truisms are predominating news articles without any reflection or criticism.

3 posted on 01/08/2004 10:54:03 AM PST by Shermy
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He can KISS MY ENTIRE SKINNY WHITE A$$, not one cheek, nothe other cheek....the ENTIRE a$$!!
4 posted on 01/08/2004 10:54:42 AM PST by ElectricStrawberry (1/27th Infantry...Nec Aspera Terrent!!!)
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President Vicente Fox on Thursday praised the immigration reform proposed by President Bush and claimed it as an achievement for his own administration.

&^$*(#^(*#&$(&@#(@#@*^%#*

5 posted on 01/08/2004 10:54:55 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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6 posted on 01/08/2004 10:55:16 AM PST by Support Free Republic (If Woody had gone straight to the police, this would never have happened!)
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FIX YOUR OWN D&%* CONUTRY FOX!!!!
8 posted on 01/08/2004 10:56:36 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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Notice were he made his comments:
...he told reporters during a visit to a shelter for street children

So.. now America is responsible for Ole Mejico's endless corruption - and the wreck of country it has produced.

9 posted on 01/08/2004 10:56:38 AM PST by StatesEnemy
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This is insane.
10 posted on 01/08/2004 10:57:24 AM PST by Lady Eileen
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11 posted on 01/08/2004 10:58:07 AM PST by VU4G10 (Have You Forgotten?)
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"It is a demonstration of collaboration which we appreciate,'' Fox said"

As opposed to your backstabbing at the UN during the recent Iraq War, you corrupt pig?

14 posted on 01/08/2004 10:59:42 AM PST by KantianBurke (Don't Tread on Me)
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President Vicente Fox on Thursday praised the immigration reform proposed by President Bush and claimed it as an achievement for his own administration.

I hope this might change W's mind about what Fox thinks of him.

Sounds to me like Bush is being use by Fox and Fox is openly telling us that he is!

15 posted on 01/08/2004 11:00:02 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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Can we Muricanos apply for Mexican benefits?
16 posted on 01/08/2004 11:00:34 AM PST by zarf (..where lieth those little things with the sort of raffia work base that has an attachment?)
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Why is this would be invader still breathing?
17 posted on 01/08/2004 11:01:17 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Bush and Co. are quickly convincing me that the Constitution Party is our only hope.)
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Fox and other Mexican officials indicated the new American proposal did not meet all their goals. ``We're going for more. We're going for more!''

If this immigration reform gets stuffed down our throats maybe we should just vote Fox in for the next US President and be done with it.

20 posted on 01/08/2004 11:02:47 AM PST by drypowder
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Fox is a loser, and Mexico could have had a lot more friendship from the US had he not been too weak to even get his left-wing legislature to issue a statement of condolence and support for us right after 9/11.

However, I hope this new immigration bill does something to energize him and secure some kind of cooperation from Mexico. One of the reasons illegal immigration is so hard to stop is that Mexico basically permits it, and even with all the security considerations after 9/11 (since many of those crossing Mexico's border lately have not been Mexicans, but Arabs and others) it has done little to crack down because it is afraid of losing all those lovely dollars from its immigrant population.

I hope Bush, who is meeting with Fox next week, uses this to get some real cooperation from Mexico. It would be a first, if he does. Mexico is an overtly socialist state that hates the US and drives its own people away because its typical socialist corruption and stagnation, and getting Mexico to cooperate on anything is a real long shot.
24 posted on 01/08/2004 11:03:36 AM PST by livius
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I have nothing to say as profanity is not allowed.
25 posted on 01/08/2004 11:03:36 AM PST by cynicom
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Fox Praises Bush's U.S. Immigration Plan (But Wants More)

Well, surprise, surprise, surprise!

27 posted on 01/08/2004 11:05:00 AM PST by kevao
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I've been thinking awhile that Fox must have something on Bush. Bush has been kissing up to him entirely too much.
30 posted on 01/08/2004 11:08:41 AM PST by mtbopfuyn
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Y'all gotta read this!!!

From a Mexican paper.

(NOTE: this is a translation, I used http://www.worldlingo.com/products_services/worldlingo_translator.html)

http://www.cronica.com.mx/nota.php?idc=102906

Plan of Bush will be long term, of two to three years: specialists

The migratory reform announced by the president of the United States, George W. Bush, will have an impact limited in the future immediate of more than eight million undocumented immigrants who already work in that country.

Bush announced Wednesday a migratory reform that would temporarily legalize the situation of undocumented million that reside in their country, half of Mexican them, days before traveling to Mexico for the special Summit of the Américas.

During the annual meeting of ambassadors and consuls of Mexico in the chancellery, investigators of both countries showed their skepticism with respect to the estadunidense proposal, few hours after the chancellor Luis Ernesto Derbez gave the welcome him.

There is "a great devil" in the words of Bush: "one is a president speaking of whom it corresponds to him to the Congress" to solve, it affirmed Demetrios Papademetriou, director of the Migration Policy Institute.

"one Requests to the Congress that, but did not say that it would send an initiative" as well as it either did not establish a date limit to sign the possible law, since has done it in the fiscal subject and of health, added pointed Doris Meissner, codirector of the same institute and ex- commissioner of the Service of Migration and estadunidense Naturalization (WITHOUT).

"the sent signals are of long term", said Meissner. "Probably it will be a debate for next the 2 or 3 years", previó the expert in migratory subjects.

The proposal of the estadunidense president, who requires the approval of the Congress, would grant visas of work of three years, renewable by an indetermine period, to those who or has a work in the United States or to foreigners supported by an employer that does not find to a estadunidense to fill that use.

The three years "will be renewable, but they will have an aim", said Bush, that it insisted on its opposition to a massive amnesty for the undocumented people.

For Demetrios Papademetriou, the success of the proposal will depend on which the "10 million illegal workers are attracted the program".

Agustín Field of broom, Superior investigator of the Research center and Studies on Social Anthropology, CIESAS, made a warning with respect to the project of Bush: "the power of the pattern during three years, since the stay of the worker (in the country) depends on him, can cause abuses".

The possibility that exists in addition the pattern sells permissions and certifications of stay, according to Field of broom.

Rafael Fernandez de Castro, director of the magazine Foreign Affairs in Spanish, applauded that the desatora proposal "the migratory agenda", but declared "pessimist like so that in this year" is some result reflected in the migratory laws of the United States.

"I do not see any incentive in the democratic congressmen in giving to Bush in this electoral year a medallita him", said Fernandez.

The specialists agreed in indicating that the greater advantage is than the migratory debate has returned to the table of the White House.

One would be a program that, without a doubt, would mainly benefit the Mexicans, by the simple fact of being the majority population between the undocumented people, according to Papademetriou.

Numbers of the School of the North Border establish that up to 310.000 Mexican undocumented people cross every year towards the United States, whereas the legal ones ascend to 370.000.

The speech of Bush "made partially happy (to all the involved actors) although also partially unfortunate (...) all obtained things but not sufficient them like being excited ", it clarified the specialist.
35 posted on 01/08/2004 11:15:13 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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Foreign Secretary Luis Ernesto Derbez said officials from both countries had already begun studying the proposal and would discuss it at a Summit of the Americas conference next week in the northern city of Monterrey.

I do hope that Derbez, et al keep us apprised of this situation. I would hate to think that the U.S. would hinder any of Mexico's grand plans.

38 posted on 01/08/2004 11:21:27 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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