The selling out of America

Myself ^ | 01/08/04 | AbsoluteJustice

[SONbrad]

oh No! That's is! I'm voting for Howard Dean or Wesley Clark or whoever else the Dems give us! That's it! I've had it!

WAAAAAAAA! The sky is falling and the world is ending! :)

[William Terrell]

Want to define an "inferior culture"?

An inferior culture is what the subjects want to leave and a superior culture is what they want to go to. Subjects are smart, if a little lacking in courage to make their's a free and superior culture.

[OXENinFLA]

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/01/20040107-3.html

This program expects temporary workers to return permanently to their home countries after their period of work in the United States has expired. And there should be financial incentives for them to do so. I will work with foreign governments on a plan to give temporary workers credit, when they enter their own nation's retirement system, for the time they have worked in America.

I also support making it easier for temporary workers to contribute a portion of their earnings to tax-preferred savings accounts, money they can collect as they return to their native countries.

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Figure that one out.

[R. Scott]

But think of all the Hispanic voters who will vote Republican next election!</cynicism>

[mgist]

For those who think it is a crime to want to work to support your family, you can call most of us illegals. We would all do it. For those of you who think they are inferior, or want to receive government benefits, you don't know any personally. Once again, President Bush has done more for America that any President before him. Most immigrants are honorable, conservative, family loving individuals who deserve that same opportunities our ancestors had. For those hateful, xenophobic, individuals who are willing to support Dean because of this one issue "Good Riddance"!

[G.Mason]

"I hate to say this, but Buchanan was right on target. His major fault was having "sister" and a few other knuckleheads control his campaign."

Years ago, [ before he took his bat and ball, and left] I was a Buchanan supporter.

I was a '63 Goldwater supporter also. Shows where my head has been.

I consider myself a bit right of "Atilla the Hun", but the reality is we must deal with it in a logical and humane manner, else we best be good shots and have plenty of ammo. ;)

[fatso]

said the government faces a $47 trillion shortfall in its ability to pay for those and all other long-term obligations. Closing that gap would require "an immediate and permanent" federal tax increase of 60% or a 50% cut in Social Security and Medicare benefits

[G.Mason]

"For those hateful, xenophobic, individuals who are willing to support Dean because of this one issue "Good Riddance"!"

Or, may I add, stay home in November?

What you say, unfortunately, is very sad, and very true.

[mgist]

. . . but the reality is we must deal with it in a logical and humane manner, else we best be good shots and have plenty of ammo.

That is the most logical statement I have heard today.

[SONbrad]

They would support Dean, or some other Dem candidate on this one issue thinking that things would be better?

More likely they will support some fringe candidate, allowing the DemocRAT a better possibility to win by default. Either way, very stupid.

[TomServo]

LOL!!!!

[G.Mason]

You are too kind.

[Mad Dawgg]

"--Animal House"

Dripping Sarcasm... see I like you already!

[AbsoluteJustice]

Well since federal income taxes are the majority of taxes that run this country SS state and County are miniscule. We are taking care of those who pay no federal income taxes.

[ravingnutter]

Under the current Senate proposal:

ACCOMPANIED BY JOB OFFER- Each application filed under paragraph (1) shall be accompanied by a copy of the job offer describing the wages and other terms and conditions of employment and the bona fide occupational qualifications that must be possessed by a worker to be employed in the job opportunity in question.

So...they must have a written job offer,which means they DO have a specific job lined up.Don't specifically see anything on changing jobs, but these two sections seem applicable...

WORK PERMITS- During the period in which an alien is in lawful status under a guest worker program, the alien shall be granted authorization to engage in employment in the United States in the job opportunity approved under the program and be provided an appropriate work permit that includes a photograph of the guest worker.

PROCESS FOR COMPLAINANTS TO OBTAIN OTHER EMPLOYMENT- The Secretary of Labor and the Secretary of Homeland Security shall establish a process under which a guest worker who files a complaint regarding an employer who intimidates, threatens, restrains, coerces, blacklists, discharges, or in any other manner discriminates against an employee because the employee has disclosed information indicating an employer violation of the guest worker program to enable the employee to seek other appropriate employment in the United States for a period not to exceed the maximum period of stay authorized by the original permit.

This would indicate that they would have to have prior approval or a legal complaint filed against the employer. This is consistent with other guest worker programs, as they do not allow "job hopping". Couldn't find anything on legal documents other than the employers have to provide vehicle insurance if required for the job.

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[mac_truck]

Militant paganism is crowding the old faiths

I'm not sure why you included this quote in a discussion about Mexican amnesty. You can say a lot of things about the folks from south of the border, but pagan isn't one of them.

[AbsoluteJustice]

"Most immigrants are honorable, conservative, family loving individuals who deserve that same opportunities our ancestors had. For those hateful, xenophobic, individuals who are willing to support Dean because of this one issue "Good Riddance"!

BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH

So because I point out some FACTUAL data that immigrants LEGAL and ILLEGAL are breaking this country because they are underskilled and uneducated....both facts I am a hateful Xenophobe? Please.....So selling your country making it a turd world country is ok with you? Read the number and you add it up.

[OXENinFLA]

Thanks

[AbsoluteJustice]

"So...they must have a written job offer,which means they DO have a specific job lined up.Don't specifically see anything on changing jobs, but these two sections seem applicable..."

This make NO difference in my argument though. Yes they must have a job lined up....BUT this job will be one in which does not pay squat,2) will not carry health insurance, 3)One in which the immigrant will pay NO federal income taxes, 3)Thus leaving me with the bill when said immigrant gets sick and has to run to the hospital.