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Astronomers Find Sun's Twin
space.com ^ | 01/07/04 | Tariq Malik

Posted on 01/07/2004 5:59:53 PM PST by KevinDavis

ATLANTA - The Sun has a twin, astronomers announced Tuesday.

The solar doppelganger hits nearly identical marks in temperature, rotation and age. Planet hunters have it on their lists, but there’s no word yet whether carbon-based folks are looking back at their star’s twin, our own Sun.

18 Scorpii is in the constellation Scorpius, visible in the predawn sky to the south. Finding it requires completely dark skies and a map configured for your location.

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Forget Mars, I say we should go to 18 Scorpii!
1 posted on 01/07/2004 5:59:56 PM PST by KevinDavis
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2 posted on 01/07/2004 6:00:31 PM PST by Support Free Republic (I'd rather be sleeping. Let's get this over with so I can go back to sleep!)
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3 posted on 01/07/2004 6:00:57 PM PST by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: KevinDavis
Interesting, but it doesn't mean much in terms of our search for life. Take away the earth and the Solar System is a pretty bleak place.
4 posted on 01/07/2004 6:02:50 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: KevinDavis
18 Scorpii is in the constellation Scorpius, visible in the predawn sky to the south. Finding it requires completely dark skies and a map configured for your location.

Paging all FR Farscape fans.

Sorry, I could not help me. ;D

5 posted on 01/07/2004 6:05:44 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: KevinDavis
I say we should go to 18 Scorpii!

lol! You first. Don't forget the sun block. ;-)

6 posted on 01/07/2004 6:06:18 PM PST by TomServo ("She wouldn't have me on a silver platter." "How about on an air mattress slathered with butter?")
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7 posted on 01/07/2004 6:08:39 PM PST by martin_fierro (Any musical with a PBY-5 Catalina in it can't be all bad.)
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To: martin_fierro
Thanks Martin! Appreciated...
8 posted on 01/07/2004 6:10:40 PM PST by TomServo ("She wouldn't have me on a silver platter." "How about on an air mattress slathered with butter?")
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To: TomServo
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9 posted on 01/07/2004 6:12:54 PM PST by martin_fierro (Any musical with a PBY-5 Catalina in it can't be all bad.)
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To: martin_fierro
I will....thanks again...
10 posted on 01/07/2004 6:14:36 PM PST by TomServo ("She wouldn't have me on a silver platter." "How about on an air mattress slathered with butter?")
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To: KevinDavis
From Solstation.com:

The Star

18 Scorpii is a yellow-orange main sequence dwarf star of spectral and luminosity type G1-5 V-Va. A little bigger and brighter than Sol, the star may have a mass similar to Sol's -- an inferred mass of 1.01 +/- 0.03 Solar-mass (Ryan et al, 2004; Guinan et al, 1999; and Porto de Mello and da Silva, 1997), 1.02 to 1.03 times its diameter (Ryan et al, 2004; and Johnson and Wright, 1983, page 685), and 1.05 times its luminosity. It may be 105 to to 112 percent as enriched as Sol with elements heavier than hydrogen ("metallicity"), based on its abundance of iron (Porto de Mello and da Silva, 1997; and Cayrel de Strobel et al, 1991, 300).

A team of astronomers studying 18 Scorpii announced on January 6, 2004 -- at the 203rd Meeting of the American Astronomical Society -- that the star's surface temperature is 5,789 degrees Kelvin, slightly hotter than Sol's 5,777 degrees. The star takes 23 days to rotate, slightly faster than Sol's rotational period of 25.4 days. A middle-aged star that is slightly younger than Sol's 4.56 billion years, 18 Scorpii is now thought to be around 4.2 billion years old (rather than the previous estimate of 4.7 +/- 0.8 billion years estimated in Guinan et al, 1999).

Some astronomers have regard 18 Scorpii as the nearest "Solar twin" (space.com; Ryan et al, 2004; and Porto de Mello and da Silva, 1997). Its starspot cycle lasts nine to 13 years while Sol's waxes and wanes every 11 years (Ryan et al, 2004). Observations through 2000, however, indicate that 18 Scorpii has a well-defined activity cycle which reached an apparent minimum in 1998 then showed a rapid rise through 2000. A comparison with contemporaneous Solar data using the same instrument suggests that 18 Scorpii's activity cycle may be of greater amplitude than Sol's and that its overall chromospheric activity level is noticeably greater than Sol's. Hence, this otherwise, "excellent solar photometric twin therefore may be a less perfect spectroscopic twin" (Hall and Lockwood, 2000). 18 Scorpii has been given the variable star designations: CSV 101566, NSV 7577, and SV ZI 1223. Other useful catalogue numbers and designations for the star include: 18 Sco, HR 6060, Gl 616, Hip 79672, HD 146233, BD-07 4242, SAO 141066, LHS 3172, LTT 6482, LFT 1259, and LPM 594.

The star is part of a survey of Sol-type stars in the local galactic neighborhood, by which astronomers hope to understand better Sol's past and future evolution. Young stars were observed to be 30 percent dimmer in brightness. Since they spin much faster, however, young stars were also found to have strong magnetic fields which apparently led to huge stellar flares that erupted one or twice a day with abundant emission of x-rays and ultraviolet light. Older stars appeared to have become quieter as they age, as the oldest emit only about a fifth as much x-ray energy as Sol before exhausting core hydrogen fusion into expanding into red giants.

11 posted on 01/07/2004 6:32:21 PM PST by petuniasevan (Tagline blank. Mind blank.)
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To: TomServo
I say we should go to 18 Scorpii!

lol! You first. Don't forget the sun block. ;-)

Avoid the exposure! Go at night!!! ;-D

12 posted on 01/07/2004 6:34:06 PM PST by petuniasevan (Tagline blank. Mind blank.)
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Avoid the exposure! Go at night!!! ;-D

Heh heh - an oldie but a goodie...

13 posted on 01/07/2004 6:39:32 PM PST by TomServo ("She wouldn't have me on a silver platter." "How about on an air mattress slathered with butter?")
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To: KevinDavis
"18 Scorpii, sits about 47.5 light-years away "

Practically next door in galactic terms. Any word yet on planets? Even the presence of gas giants like Jupiter could signal a similar solar system structure to ours.

A "Generation Ship" could be there in say, three hundred to five hundred years which really would not be that long a time to start a human presence in a new solar system

14 posted on 01/07/2004 6:40:00 PM PST by BenLurkin (Socialism is Slavery)
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To: TomServo
Not a problem - we'll land at night.
15 posted on 01/07/2004 6:40:28 PM PST by BenLurkin (Socialism is Slavery)
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To: Paul C. Jesup
Paging all FR Farscape fans. Sorry, I could not help me. ;D

No apology necessary! I'm sure good ol' Scorpy is there, dancing in his Mambo shirt, slugging down lime shooters with John Crichton, celebrating their resurrection in the Farscape miniseries now in production!

16 posted on 01/07/2004 6:45:38 PM PST by Kieri (Who's waiting for the return of her beloved Farscape!)
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17 posted on 01/07/2004 6:53:58 PM PST by genghis
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To: KevinDavis
18 Scorpii seems to be a rather stilted designation for Sol's twin -- maybe they should name it Murray...
18 posted on 01/07/2004 6:54:05 PM PST by mikrofon
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To: BenLurkin
You can bet there will be a lot of planet hunters checking out the wobbles in that star. One would have to think that something so similar to our own would have to have a much similar initial environment.

Just think. If there were an Earth-like planet around it, we could be taking pictures of its continents within the next 20 years.
19 posted on 01/07/2004 7:11:37 PM PST by sigSEGV
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We're thinking along similar lines here, but how do we get there in twenty years when it is 47 light years away?
20 posted on 01/07/2004 7:30:35 PM PST by BenLurkin (Socialism is Slavery)
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