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PETE ROSE ADMITS BETTING ON BASEBALL IN NEW BOOK
ESPN ^ | 1/3/2004 | ESPN.COM

Posted on 01/03/2004 11:08:42 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist

Saturday, January 3, 2004

ESPN.com news services With publication of his new book, Pete Rose may be changing his story, admitting publicly for the first time what he's been denying for 14 years, that he bet on baseball.

The Philadelphia Inquirer, citing a "person privy to some of the contents" of "My Prison Without Bars," reports in its Saturday edition that Rose confesses in the book, which has been embargoed until its official publication date Thursday.

Citing a major league official, the New York Times reported Wednesday that Rose, in fact, told commissioner Bud Selig on Nov. 25, 2002, that he had bet on baseball. On Friday, in an op-ed article in the Times, former baseball commissioner Fay Vincent, writing about the book, notes that "word is" Rose admits to betting on baseball, but that he "confronts his past with very little remorse."

It is believed that Rose will have to both admit to gambling on baseball and apologize for his actions for Selig to reinstate him into good standing, thus making him eligible for election to the Hall of Fame.

As ESPN.com columnist Rob Neyer speculated on Dec. 17, and as the Inquirer and Times have noted in their recent articles and columns, such a mea culpa by Rose in his book would come two days after the new Hall of Fame class is announced and could be the start of Rose's campaign for redemption and induction.

According to the Inquirer, Rodale Press, which is publishing the book, declined Friday to comment on the contents of the book.

Rose was banned from baseball for life in 1989 by commissioner Bart Giamatti after being investigated for gambling while managing the Cincinnati Reds. Rose was declared ineligible for the Hall of Fame in 1991.

In the agreement between Giamatti and Rose suspending Rose, baseball did not formally conclude that Rose was guilty of gambling on the sport but Giamatti stated that he personally believed that Rose had bet on baseball.

Giamatti had before him the findings of independent investigator John Dowd, who detailed 412 baseball wagers that he said Rose made between April 8 and July 5, 1987, while managing the Reds, including 52 bets on Cincinnati to win.

Rose applied to Selig for reinstatement in 1997 and Selig began reviewing the appeal in earnest after the November 2002 meeting during which Rose is said to have confessed.

Selig declined to comment to the Inquirer Friday on the latest developments, reiterating that Rose has the right to appeal his lifetime ban and that he, the commissioner, is reviewing the case. Such a review would undoubtedly include the contents of the new book -- whether there's a confession and, if a confession, whether there's an apology.

As for the Hall of Fame, a player has a 15-year period starting five years after his retirement during which he is eligible for election by the baseball writers. If Rose is reinstated, his final year of eligibility on the ballot would be in December 2005. After that, his possible selection would pass to the veterans committee, which includes all living Hall of Famers, some of whom are adamantly opposed to his induction.

The first printing of the book, priced at $24.95, is huge at 500,000 copies. With those numbers, Rodale Press obviously expects Rose's book to make a big splash, and, according to the Inquirer's source, baseball's all-time hit leader has delivered.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: baseball; bookreview; gambling; mlb; peterose; rose
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1 posted on 01/03/2004 11:08:43 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
What an idiot. If he had just came clean back then, he'd be in the Hall of Fame.

The truth will always set you free.

2 posted on 01/03/2004 11:10:11 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (EEE)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Keep the ban on Rose.
3 posted on 01/03/2004 11:12:22 AM PST by Chris Tucker
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
PETE ROSE ADMITS BETTING ON BASEBALL IN NEW BOOK

THE SKY ADMITS IT'S BLUE
6 posted on 01/03/2004 11:13:35 AM PST by WinOne4TheGipper (This tagline has been timed to best benefit George W. Bush.)
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To: Chris Tucker
Keep the ban on Rose.

For what? He's the greatest hitter of all time. Racist Ty Cobbs is in the Hall, as well as other shadier characters who played baseball.

7 posted on 01/03/2004 11:14:53 AM PST by ServesURight (FReecerely Yours,)
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To: ServesURight
Why you dissin' Ty Cobb?...This is a Pete Rose thread....
8 posted on 01/03/2004 11:16:35 AM PST by dakine
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To: ServesURight
You don't understand. Baseball's Hall of Fame is very prestigious, much more rigorous than the other professional sports.

Admitting Rose, who tarnished the game with his gambling and his refusal to admit any wrongdoing, is a slap in the face to all the baseball legends that now reside in Cooperstown.

Besides, Cobbs played in a different era. Comparing Cobbs to Rose is comparing milk to vodka.

9 posted on 01/03/2004 11:18:15 AM PST by Chris Tucker
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
He also has an exclusive primetime interview with ABC coming soon which I'll bet (sorry!) is part of ESPN's (owned by ABC) sourcing on this.

Were I a voting member, I would pass on him and let this go to the Veterans Committee. Part of me believes he derves induction for his on-field accomplishments. But part of me thinks he should only be inducted posthumously.

10 posted on 01/03/2004 11:18:54 AM PST by Tall_Texan (Happy 2004 - the year we put Republicanism into overdrive.)
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To: dakine
Ty CObb was a well documented hateful racist. Rose is not. Rose is flawed but isnt hateful.
11 posted on 01/03/2004 11:19:47 AM PST by smith288 (Secret member of the VRWC elite forces)
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To: Chris Tucker
If he bet on his own team to win, or bet on other teams, not his own, then I don't see a problem.

If he bet on his own team to lose, then he should be banned forever.
12 posted on 01/03/2004 11:20:28 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (The only thing standing between the rule of law and anarchy is that conservatives are good losers!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Pete Rose admits that denial is not a river in Egypt.
13 posted on 01/03/2004 11:21:38 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
I'm shocked. Shocked I tell you.


14 posted on 01/03/2004 11:23:15 AM PST by P.O.E.
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To: ServesURight
For what? He's the greatest hitter of all time. Racist Ty Cobbs is in the Hall,
as well as other shadier characters who played baseball.


Sounds like Rose is getting sweaty...time's running out for getting elected
by sportswriters.
I heard former pitcher Frank Pastore say that most of the players that he's talked
to say they'd never vote to put Rose into the Hall of Fame.

I'm no big baseball fan and Rose was a great player/personality...
but I guess some folks in baseball really that that "NO BETTING" sign that
hangs in every stadium very seriously.
15 posted on 01/03/2004 11:23:38 AM PST by VOA
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To: smith288
You think Rose doesn't hate Bart Giamatti or John Dowd?
16 posted on 01/03/2004 11:23:41 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Here's a link to a similiar thread:

CONFESSIONS OF PETE ROSE

17 posted on 01/03/2004 11:24:56 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (EEE)
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To: Chris Tucker
I'm with you. Why honor someone who admits to breaking the rules? Why honor someone who then lies for 14 years about having broken the rules? It runs counter to the whole purpose of the Baseball Hall of Fame-- excellence. Of course, if morality doesn't matter....
18 posted on 01/03/2004 11:25:11 AM PST by Clara Lou
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To: Chris Tucker
You don't understand. Baseball's Hall of Fame is very prestigious, much more rigorous than the other professional sports.

LOL!! Dude, that bromide went the way of the dinosaurs years ago. For God's sake, Fergie Jenkins is in the HOF!!. Talk about lowering the bar!!

If Pete is not admitted into the Hall of Fame. especially in an era where cocaine users are repeatedly given new life by greedy owners, then there is no justice.

Rose was the greatest player of my generation and to not admit him, regardless of the circumstances off the field, is a damn joke.

19 posted on 01/03/2004 11:26:16 AM PST by zarf (..where lieth those little things with the sort of raffia work base that has an attachment?)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
So, then: Some betting is ok, and some isn't? And, do we leave it up to the players to decide which is which?
20 posted on 01/03/2004 11:26:41 AM PST by Clara Lou
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