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What the Troops Are Buying With Their Own Money [or, what to send a combat soldier you know]
StrategyPage.com ^ | Dec 30, 2003

Posted on 12/30/2003 2:56:27 PM PST by John Jorsett

OK, this is too late for Christmas (unless you're Orthodox), but if you have a friend of family member serving with a combat unit in Iraq, there are a few non-lethal items that have proved highly popular over there and would make a great, maybe lifesaving, gift.

Hand held laser pointers have been popular for troops expecting to get ambushed. The laser pointer makes it easier to show where everyone should shoot. Sounds crude, but it works, and has worked many times. It also proved popular for raids as well.

The army issued GPS receiver (the PLGR) is old and put to shame by newer GPS equipment. The 82nd Airborne division went out and bought Rhino GPS units for all the troops. This unit was lighter, smaller, got more time out of the batteries, and picked up the GPS signals faster than PLGR. Many troops had already bought the Rhino (spending about $200 to do so), and similar models. But many troops are stuck with the PLGR and would appreciate something better.

Better desert boots are popular. The ones issued do not stand up well to the heat and sand. Some troops have been getting their hands on Iraqi army boots, which are lighter and more sturdy. However, there are outfitters for desert trips that have some boots built for the rigors of stomping around in a desert environment. No clear cut leader in this department yet, though.

Bolt cutters and Battle Axes. Combat troops spend lots of time making raids on Iraqi compounds, homes and industrial sites. Bolt cutters come in handy. Also popular are "battle axes." Actually, these are similar to the ones that firemen use for breaking and entering. But calling it a "battle axe" appeals more to the troops than "fireman's axe."

In many units, the Gerber multi-tool has replaced the bayonet. The multi-tool has been popular with troops for years. About the same size as a bayonet, the multi-tool includes needle nose pliers, a wire cutter, a drop point knife blade, screwdrivers, a can opener, a bottle opener, among other things. The troops love this stuff.

Canteens are considered so 20th century. Today's trooper wants a camel-back hydration system (a bladder of water carried on your backpack, with a tube that allows you to sip water as you need it without having to use your hands to get the canteen out.)

While Christmas is past, some of these items would make a nice Valentine's Day gift. Or just a "come back alive, baby," gift. It's always appreciated.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: carepackages; gear; iraq; supportourtroops
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1 posted on 12/30/2003 2:56:27 PM PST by John Jorsett
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To: John Jorsett
All my hunting packs have camel back bladders in them,
drink while you move and.......#1. they don't slosh!
2 posted on 12/30/2003 3:03:00 PM PST by tet68
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To: 300winmag; Corin Stormhands; Darksheare; g'nad; Graybeard58; ksen; Lil'freeper; msdrby; ...
Hand held laser pointers have been popular for troops expecting to get ambushed. The laser pointer makes it easier to show where everyone should shoot. Sounds crude, but it works, and has worked many times. It also proved popular for raids as well.

Interesting. HHD troop ping

3 posted on 12/30/2003 3:07:43 PM PST by Professional Engineer (28Dec ~ I felt my unborn child move this morning!!)
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To: John Jorsett
The boots might be a good idea...I know Mike has been through several pairs....as far as the battle axe, well, I'll leave that one alone.
4 posted on 12/30/2003 3:07:47 PM PST by mystery-ak (Mike...Happy New Year!)
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To: John Jorsett; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; LindaSOG; Kathy in Alaska; MoJo2001; bentfeather; ...
USO Canteen Useful Troop Gifts PING!

I'd like to underline several of these:

In many units, the Gerber multi-tool has replaced the bayonet. The multi-tool has been popular with troops for years. About the same size as a bayonet, the multi-tool includes needle nose pliers, a wire cutter, a drop point knife blade, screwdrivers, a can opener, a bottle opener, among other things. The troops love this stuff.

Either a Gerber or a Leatherman, goes over big-time. I've yet to be in a unit within the last four years, where every other troop had one or the other. They're just too damn useful.

Hand held laser pointers have been popular for troops expecting to get ambushed. The laser pointer makes it easier to show where everyone should shoot. Sounds crude, but it works, and has worked many times. It also proved popular for raids as well.

These lil' buggers are cheap - I've seen them as low as $8, and made as part of a key chain - and dead useful in field or garrison jobs.

Canteens are considered so 20th century. Today's trooper wants a camel-back hydration system (a bladder of water carried on your backpack, with a tube that allows you to sip water as you need it without having to use your hands to get the canteen out.)

Two reasons why I'd opt out on these. One, they're still expensive - $40 and up, last I checked. Two, Camelbacks are issue items for almost every unit going to The Sandbox.

The army issued GPS receiver (the PLGR) is old and put to shame by newer GPS equipment. The 82nd Airborne division went out and bought Rhino GPS units for all the troops. This unit was lighter, smaller, got more time out of the batteries, and picked up the GPS signals faster than PLGR. Many troops had already bought the Rhino (spending about $200 to do so), and similar models. But many troops are stuck with the PLGR and would appreciate something better.

Any avid sports guy might have a Rhino, or a Garmin, or a Magellan. My Guard company made a local purchase on three; blew some training money, but our surveillance guys needed them. I echo the commentary on the PLGR: if you have nothing, then they're great. If you can get hold of better, do so.

Only thing I could ever add to this wish list: A cheap-o digital camera! One that you can quickly upload the pics to a laptop - and laptops are becoming the equipment of choice in almost every unit - purge the camera, and shoot some more. I've got one we found for $20, and my new laptop will be mated up to it soon.

5 posted on 12/30/2003 3:13:47 PM PST by Old Sarge (Do Your Valentine's Day Shopping Early!)
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To: Wneighbor
Package hints.

And Happy New Year to you and yours.
6 posted on 12/30/2003 3:22:00 PM PST by Pan_Yans Wife (Submitting approval for the CAIR COROLLARY to GODWIN'S LAW.)
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To: Old Sarge
Good input, Sarge.

The laser pointer surprised me, but it shouldn't have. Notice how popular laser sights on pistols have become? Maybe there's a reason we trained for so long on the MILES systems!
7 posted on 12/30/2003 3:25:03 PM PST by HiJinx (Let go...Let God.)
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To: John Jorsett
This is a great suggestion list ... a keeper. A couple of other items we are shipping along with the regular beef jerky, licorice, etc. Just had eBay ship my son an Arabic language course refresher, per his request ... Pimsler's a good company, he wanted casettes instead of CD's and stayed away from Egyptian Arabic and got it for under $20. This is probably not the every day gift for the average soldier but my Iraqi based son went to language school and admits he is getting rusty and wants to sharpen his skills.

Power converters, 12 volt to 110/220 are also popular. My Navy son picked one up that had a cigarette plug as well as dual alligator battery clips and two 110 outlets. I think he paid too much but we are sending that off to Iraq this week as well. I know you can get them (sans the battery clips) at Fry's for about $30-35. Not telling what rediculous price my Navy kid paid for it at Radio shack but he wants to send it.

I'm throwing in some as well small Cuban cigars I picked up overseas - hope I don't get him in trouble!!

8 posted on 12/30/2003 3:28:44 PM PST by AgThorn (Go go Bush!!)
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To: Professional Engineer
Interesting. HHD troop ping,

Very interesting.... and doable.

'Pod is yer group still interested in the care package effort? Maybe we can coordinate.

9 posted on 12/30/2003 3:33:24 PM PST by Lil'freeper (By all that we hold dear on this Earth I bid you stand, men of the West!)
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To: Old Sarge
You are correct about the laptops...my adopted soldier sent a wish list, which I requested from him. On it were CD and/or DVD writable discs. I think they are copying movie DVDs and sharing with each other....psssst....don't tell Hollywood!

Also requested were phone cards, 35mm film, motorcycle magazines, AAA batteries, MiniMag light bulbs, and American cigarettes (of course).

One final item requested: 1-way plane ticket to the USA

Wish I could make this last one a dream come true for each and every person serving in that Hell hole.

10 posted on 12/30/2003 3:34:26 PM PST by BushisTheMan
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To: mystery-ak
The boots might be a good idea...I know Mike has been through several pairs....as far as the battle axe, well, I'll leave that one alone.

:-} Thanks for the chuckle.

11 posted on 12/30/2003 3:35:55 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Lil'freeper; sauropod
Ya' gotta ping him 1st!
12 posted on 12/30/2003 3:42:48 PM PST by Professional Engineer (28Dec ~ I felt my unborn child move this morning!!)
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To: John Jorsett
Buy one bottle of Pine-Sol. Empty bottle. Clean out bottle thoroughly. Refill with single malt whisky. Send your favorite soldier his much needed 'cleaning supplies' along with other care items.
13 posted on 12/30/2003 3:58:32 PM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: mystery-ak

The ThunderSledge Series has non-conductive advanced polymer handles and doesn't need an owner's manual! The essential entry tool for any kit. The grip features a non-slip coating that won't absorb glass shards and also features Dynamic Entry's premier construction for years of abuse. It's the finest sledge on the market. SKU: DE-TM Size: 7 lbs. 21.5 inches Price: $64.95

Instant escape hatch maker.

14 posted on 12/30/2003 4:01:25 PM PST by Cannoneer No. 4
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To: Professional Engineer
ack. long day. thanks.
15 posted on 12/30/2003 4:02:52 PM PST by Lil'freeper (By all that we hold dear on this Earth I bid you stand, men of the West!)
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To: HiJinx
Laser pointer would make a great nighttime reading light, too. Right now I use those little squeeze-lights with a red bulb for reading maps or range cards, but a laser would be even better.

I'm gonna go get one of those.
16 posted on 12/30/2003 4:02:52 PM PST by Britton J Wingfield
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To: All
How to send a Care Package (vanity)

Lets tie these posts together :)

17 posted on 12/30/2003 4:05:25 PM PST by Britton J Wingfield
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To: Prodigal Son
...and that will get a soldier an Article 15 if he is caught...and he will get caught!...my husband has issued several of these already and doesn't like doing it.
18 posted on 12/30/2003 4:05:35 PM PST by mystery-ak (Mike...Happy New Year!)
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Lethal Weapon
19 posted on 12/30/2003 4:06:58 PM PST by Cannoneer No. 4
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
LOL...I don't think Mike needs that,he carries a 9mm.
20 posted on 12/30/2003 4:07:04 PM PST by mystery-ak (Mike...Happy New Year!)
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