Bitter divorce led to fiery crash that killed father, 2 children

Daytona News Journal Online ^ | 122703 | Associated Press

[Archangelsk]

Possible "Religion of Peace" alert.

Definite "Dumb Judge" alert.

Probable "Poor Marriage Decision" alert.

Absolutely "Hope the Scumbag is Frying in Hell" alert.

How the hell do you murder your kids to spite someone?

[Hawkeye's Girl]

You have to be completely selfish...and evil.

[ValerieUSA]

Why the hell didn't the court order a psychiatric evaluation?

[petercooper]

iranian?

why do we keep letting these people in?

[Archangelsk]

That's why I said 'Possible'.

[Archangelsk]

Why the hell didn't the court order a psychiatric evaluation?

Who the hell knows?

[Syncro]

It's amazing how many times Judges dismiss a restraining order and someone gets hurt.

But many people just ignore them, they need to be locked up after the first violation.

Psych Evaluations some times do no good at all even if the man comes out really bad on it.

But everything possible should be done, sometimes it works.

[Archangelsk]

Da Judge.

[FITZ]

I have a feeling this guy didn't even believe in Christmas --- I guess if the kids were being exposed to Christianity --- in his mind they're better off dead. A Muslim must have Muslim kids ---- and it's the death penalty if you try to leave Islam.

[ejo]

Just perused your homepage....Magnificent pictures ....Now why couldn't this 'dunderhead' see the awesomeness of the Almighty at work, and he could have avoided this mayhem...

[sheikdetailfeather]

WFTV news here in Orlando interviewed a neighbor who said the man was in tears two days before at a Publix store and said he missed his children.

[Mercat]

Sadly, the stuff leading up to this tragedy is heard over and over again in custody cases. The judge probably wanted to order a psych eval but who was going to pay for it. It typically costs between $3-10,000.00. Some of the larger counties have a home study process but that's usually done by just out of school ditsy social workers who have no children or live experience. They hit it right about one/half of the time. Not very good odds. Fact is, can't protect the children if the parents go nuts. I've been doing custody law for 28 years. Never had a child die. Had a few parties off themselves. Was at the court house twice when parties took their lives.. one also killed his wife. All of which is why I am going to try to work myself out of the litigation business in the next year. It's just too hard not to mention corrupts my soul and Pope JPII said to get out of the business too.

[trussell]

A judge denied the request in September, saying there was not enough evidence.

Is there enough evidence now??

[Orangedog]

All of which is why I am going to try to work myself out of the litigation business in the next year. It's just too hard not to mention corrupts my soul and Pope JPII said to get out of the business too.

The law schools are filling up quick now that engineering and techincal jobs are going away. Sadly it seems that law is the only growth industry we have left.

[ValerieUSA]

They fought over who got the kids for Christmas -- were either of the parents even Christians?

[FITZ]

You wonder ---- it sounds like they did a lot of fighting over the kids and money ---- this was just another good day to do that. Poor kids.

[ValerieUSA]

Thank you.
His own children were beautiful creatures of God, too, but he saw them only as his own possessions.

[FITZ]

why I am going to try to work myself out of the litigation business in the next year

Maybe they need better people in the litigation business --- maybe you should stay. I think sometimes the lawyers help make problems because that gets them richer --- but maybe the right advise could help in some of these cases, someone telling a parent the money isn't really worth a big war. Or reminding them that the children should not be used in divorce tug-of-wars.

[ValerieUSA]

I don't think it is fair to characterize the dispute as "they fought over money" if he was taking money out of their joint account and sending it to his sister and borrowing against credit cards when he didn't have a job. I would say he was putting the family into deep debt.

[familyop]

My, my, aren't we humanists so intelligent! We just can't figure out a way to make people go along with no-fault, no-justice divorce and not be upset by the reason for divorce! [Irony, sarcasm] And the violence rate keeps going up, just like it did before Noah's time. Hey, I know--maybe our humanism rationalizing witch doctors can fix people so they don't mind the exciting Sodom living!

We've been corrupt since wayward, early American preachers and their "suffragist" friends taught "soul communion" (pretty word for adultery) and that their congregations were "gods" (Henry Beecher, for only one example). And we, as a society, just won't even admit we made a mistake.