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Amnesty for Illegal Immigrants? (4 Letters)
The New York Times ^ | December 22, 2003

Posted on 12/22/2003 1:51:44 AM PST by sarcasm

To the Editor:

Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge's ambitious plan to grant the estimated 8 million to 10 million undocumented immigrants some sort of legal status ("New Hope on Immigration," editorial, Dec. 15) is a necessary step forward in preserving our national security and a new hope for undocumented immigrants who live, work and pay taxes but suffer the humiliation of being the scapegoat every time our nation finds itself in a political and economic crisis.

Let's hope that this plan becomes a bipartisan effort between members of Congress and immigrant rights activists to develop a good immigration policy that will safeguard our nation for decades to come.

JOHN MENDOZA

Pomona, Calif., Dec. 15, 2003

To the Editor:

The Times, like so many supporters of illegal immigrants (editorial, Dec. 15), always reminds us that illegal aliens do the work regular Americans won't do: pick crops, bus tables, clean hotel rooms and so on, because these jobs don't pay enough. But the absence of illegal aliens would not mean that these jobs would not exist. In fact, the absence of illegal aliens would force employers to pay higher wages to get those jobs done, and then in true American fashion the rising tide would lift all boats.

Continuing to support the forgiveness of illegal aliens, permitting them to forgo the burdens of applying for citizenship and rewarding them for their illegal conduct drains the treasure that so many brave people have died to defend.

I, for one, would be willing to pay higher prices if in return our borders were secure and the people who live and work here did so legally. The wages of legal citizens are held down artificially by the presence of illegal employees in the workplace.

GEORGE ABRUZZESE

Bohemia, N.Y., Dec. 15, 2003

To the Editor:

We must address not just illegal immigration (editorial, Dec. 15), but also the discriminatory nature of legal immigration.

A status short of citizenship will serve as a relief to the existing illegal entrants, but do nothing to discourage others from crossing our borders, or to encourage those who would never dream of entering illegally but struggle to remain here legally.

For example, thousands of binational same-sex couples in the United States face potential forced separation because the American person is not permitted to sponsor his or her foreign partner for permanent residency. Couples must consider dramatic steps including remaining illegally, or leaving the United States for friendlier shores.

Incorporation of Representative Jerrold Nadler's Permanent Partner Immigration Act into any new immigration regulations would be a rare compassionate move from this predictably conservative administration.

NICHOLAS P. RAY

Tucson, Dec. 15, 2003

To the Editor:

In 1986, more than three million illegal aliens were granted legal status in what was to be a "one-time" amnesty program. Now you want another 8 million to 10 million lawbreakers to receive amnesty (editorial, Dec. 15)? When does it end? You also support the "Dream Act," which would allow the children of illegal aliens to pay in-state tuition, while children of law-abiding American citizens from other states would have to pay more.

The great majority of people illegally entering this country are poor, uneducated and often not even literate in their own language. These aliens are holding down wages of minority and blue-collar workers who are citizens of the United States. Minority and working-class citizens are the ones who suffer. The people who benefit are those who employ illegal immigrants.

Stiff penalties for hiring illegal immigrants should be enforced. The United States should gain control of its borders.

ROBERT F. LAPORTA

Dix Hills, N.Y., Dec. 15, 2003


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; republicanturncoats
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1 posted on 12/22/2003 1:51:44 AM PST by sarcasm
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To: sarcasm
The ten million that are legalized will reinforce a network working to smuggle another 30,000,000 in.
2 posted on 12/22/2003 2:08:36 AM PST by RLK
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To: RLK
Our "leaders" don't care.
3 posted on 12/22/2003 2:11:39 AM PST by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: sarcasm
Amnesty for Illegal Immigrants? (4 Letters)

My "choice" four letters are "F'n NO!"

(Hey, I'm fully qualitfied to run for office with John Kerry now.)

4 posted on 12/22/2003 2:16:00 AM PST by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: RLK
Security is more important than a few votes.
5 posted on 12/22/2003 2:20:44 AM PST by Diogenesis (If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us)
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To: sarcasm
Our "leaders" don't care.

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Our leaders don't live in this country. They live in separate preserves within this country's borders, but they don't live in this country or work in this country. Their income is derived from distribution of the accumulation of money controlled and directed from within those preserves. That's how you get people such as George Bush having been on the boards of directors at a young age at handsome salaries. This was unaffected by the general economic condition of the nation.

6 posted on 12/22/2003 2:24:43 AM PST by RLK
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To: Diogenesis
Security is more important than a few votes.

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Not if the major direction of your life is using this country as a political playground.

7 posted on 12/22/2003 2:30:31 AM PST by RLK
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To: sarcasm
Of all the time in this nations history to be doing this. Man, if you don`t believe there are people in this country right now who are out to destroy it, you don`t need any more proof than this. Yesterday: Terror alert-Al Qaida wants to do something worse than 911....Let`s make sure they have no problem getting here, and while we`re at it, let`s give `em a driver license. Yeah, that`s the ticket. If someone wants to blow your head off, make sure you leave your door wide open, and remember to leave a batch of milk and cookies on the table.
8 posted on 12/22/2003 3:05:33 AM PST by metalboy (I`m still waiting for the protests against Al Qaida and Saddam)
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To: RLK
"The ten million that are legalized will reinforce a network working to smuggle another 30,000,000 in."AMEN to that!

"illegal aliens do the work regular Americans won't do: pick crops, bus tables, clean hotel rooms.." If this isn't a load of bull and what is interesting, the same argument is made in Europe regarding immigrants ..makes you wonder who is behind this 'movement'..

9 posted on 12/22/2003 3:12:29 AM PST by Zipporah
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To: sarcasm
OMG, PLEASE say this isn't so! Yes we all want security but to grant them blanket amnesty?? Oh gosh I wish I could really say what I think but at the fear of offending the illegal's I will try to keep it mild.

Okay, I have a question, why cant we all send emails to Tom Ridge and say that as life-long republicans we HIGHLY DISAPROVE of them doing this. That there has got to be a better way to approach this problem.

What does everyone think about this strategy?
We trust our administration and we stand behind them,and we are saying please don't do this.
10 posted on 12/22/2003 3:28:10 AM PST by stopem
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To: stopem
I think that Ridge is just fronting for W, and that we are screwed.
12 posted on 12/22/2003 3:47:49 AM PST by Ed_in_NJ
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To: stopem
Several times I have posted the following address to Homeland Security (and messages may or may not be forwarded to Tom Ridge):

http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/

From the home page, click the "contact" page for a drop-down subject menu. PLEASE BOMBARD the moronic Ridge with your messages--daily, if possible. Ditto the president and vice president.

Best wishes,
Penny

13 posted on 12/22/2003 3:50:15 AM PST by Penny
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To: sarcasm
bump
14 posted on 12/22/2003 5:41:01 AM PST by RippleFire
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To: sarcasm
" But the absence of illegal aliens would not mean that these jobs would not exist. In fact, the absence of illegal aliens would force employers to pay higher wages to get those jobs done, and then in true American fashion the rising tide would lift all boats.""....What a uniquely American dream...Free Enterprise!!!!..
15 posted on 12/22/2003 6:36:34 AM PST by M-cubed
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To: RLK
The ten million that are legalized will reinforce a network working to smuggle another 30,000,000 in.

The ten million will then become obsolete, since they will demand higher wages. Management will then need 10 million new illegals who will work at the current rate. The newly-legal will be eligible for welfare and unemployment, and will have no other recourse than to suck off the taxpayer's teat.

16 posted on 12/22/2003 9:12:56 AM PST by Pa' fuera
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To: *immigrant_list; A Navy Vet; Lion Den Dan; Free the USA; Libertarianize the GOP; madfly; B4Ranch; ..
ping
17 posted on 12/22/2003 9:37:36 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: Pa' fuera
This sucking will never, ever stop.
18 posted on 12/22/2003 9:49:02 AM PST by texastoo ((go California go. Tell it like it is))
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To: Zipporah
" If this isn't a load of bull and what is interesting, the same argument is made in Europe regarding immigrants ..makes you wonder who is behind this 'movement'.."

Awhile back, I was looking for some stats, and came across a Greek forum on immigration. Sounded like us. And, yes, the tiring, "they're just here to do the job the greek people won't do", was thrown around with contempt.

The un is behind it. They keep everyone stirred up against each other, and they stay under the radar.

19 posted on 12/22/2003 10:06:42 AM PST by monkeywrench
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To: RLK
Presidente Fox is asking for more and our legislative leaders liars are coaching him on how to do it better! Thet are working hard at lying to us and Changing Our Country, thinking we can't see the changes.
20 posted on 12/22/2003 10:25:15 AM PST by B4Ranch (Wave your flag, don't waive your rights!)
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